It's hard to believe this is still being discussed today. Economic Marxism was discredited long ago and replaced with a desperate attempt at undermining western culture by means of "Cultural Marxism" which is an incestuous combination of Marx-like ideas with outdated Freudian notions. It's so absurd now that a Supreme Court nominee can't even define what a woman is.
@Loopysoutherner There are so many comments on this thread that we'll need to quote the comment (or partial), or reference it, otherwise we can't tell what is being replied to. You've made two replies to me tonight but I don't know to which comment. 🤔
@Loopysoutherner Furthermore unlike Europe and Russia, the US never had a nobility, we never had land granted by a King. Everything here is earned. That Manifesto was written for Europe and Asia who had nobilities and monarchies. Not the US.
Your memory is failing again, Picsie. 😂 😂 😂 You leapt to the defense of Kim and his Soviet sponsors by saying the US had no business getting involved in the Korean "civil war." 🙄 🙄 🙄
You never saw a communist regime you didn't swoon over, Picsie. 🤣 🤣 🤣
"That is just one of your other desperate attempts to derail the conversation into stupid Godwin's law fails where you call everyone who is not a right wing extremist Hitler."
And now you got so flustered and flummoxed that you got what I say backwards. I call communist tyrants what they are: communist tyrants. YOU are the one who calls everyone to the right of Mao a nazi. 😂 😂 😂
"And of course you would love people like Azov Battalion. Calling actual nazis a nazi is not a Godwin's law fail."
Let me know when the Azov Battalion murders 6 million Russians in concentration camps, Picsie. Meanwhile, try not to get triggered by too many Wolfsangel symbols. 😂 😂 😂
By the way, Picsie, it may interest you that the Wolfsangel symbol long predated the nazis in Germany.
"Early medieval pagans believed the symbol possessed magical powers and could ward off wolves. It became an early symbol of German liberty and independence after its adoption as an emblem in various 15th-century peasant revolts, and also in the 17th-century Thirty Years War."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfsangel
Pagans? Peasant revolts? Those should be right up your alley, Picskins. 🤣 🤣 🤣
@ShadowWolf Most people who claim welfare here in the uk are in work. 1 in 4 households here claim housing benefit and only 1 in 8 of those are a household with nobody in work.
@Loopysoutherner I believe that is you who ignores history. Way to deflect like a true leftist. How many times have people told you here socialism failed every time it was tried in the 20th century? Basic observation and knowledge of history shows this. You are hopeless. I digress. Red, it's not worth your time buddy, she's completely "loopy".
@ShadowWolf I've told you history, you've expressed right wing propaganda and are unable to act like a mature adult because I'm not agreeing with you. Look up Robert owen and Eugene debs as well trade unions and the chartist movement
@Loopysoutherner Because you are ignorant and have zero facts. You also don't know how to read. No wonder you can't get men your age, they probably see you as a child.
@Loopysoutherner I actually do 🙄 If you're in the U.K you have probably heard of The Co-operative Travel.
And riiight, except people need money to spend on that business...and this money is coming from people who are in all liklihood being paid much less than their bosses or whoever owns the place they work at.
Marx critique of capitalism is decent but thats as far as it goes imo. Marx is there to give us plebs the veneer of choice but essentially what he ends up pimping for is an even more controlling version of state capitalism wrapped up in the decorative framework of class
@DffrntDrmmr Nice cold war propaganda. I am guessing you have never read any of his writing. If you had the first part would imply reading comprehension issues. Marx mentions capitalism rather frequently.
The rest of your comment is just cold war nonsense that doesn't hold up. It is just slogans.
@ShadowWolf his nephew tried to emulate napoleon but was considered a laughing stock. Marx wrote a whole essay heavily critising bonaparte the 3rd and the national assembly's inability to get rid of him
@Loopysoutherner Fair but I am talking about the original The one that seized power after the French Revolution. The one prior to Louis getting temporarily restored to the throne.
@Thinkerbell That would be the rule of a majority (working class people and small business owner) over a minority (very rich people who owned the means of production) like in a democracy actually. Also are you aware of the living conditions and the political situations at the time Marx lived?
I could committ atrocities in the name of Jesus yet would anyone blame Jesus or would I be the one to blame?
Jesus did not preach violent revolution; Marx DID.
And what Marx overlooked is that people who lead violent revolutions are violent; they brook no opposition, and so people like Lenin, Stalin, Mao and many lesser communist dictators take over.
Yes, yes, I know... they were only "socialists" building communism, but somehow, they never got around to establishing Marx's fantasy world.
What I blame Marx for is being a very poor judge of human nature. There will always be class distinctions between those who have political power and those who do not, and the "haves" generally don't relish giving up their privileges. The best you can hope for are free and honest elections in which the scoundrels can be thrown out, something for which Marxist governments have not been noted.
@Lostpoet Hitler kept a bust of Nietzsche on his desk the whole time he was Furher. Old Aldof saw himself as the "übermensch". How'd that work for him?
Karl Marx (1818-1883) is arguably the most famous political philosopher of all time, but he was also one of the great foreign correspondents of the nineteenth century. [media=https://youtu.be/rS3-_s-ghbk]
@irishmolly72 Funny enough, the Soviet Union was well into the collapse when he made that statement. Chernobyl had happened, the economy and industry were in tatters, the Eastern Bloc was fighting for independence, and little did they know, the Berlin wall would come down 3 years later.
Written by Steven Rosefielde, a Professor of Economics at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill and a member of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences. No slouch.
