Some people are so quick to generalize and demonize police
but they think it's so simple. Yes there are bad police but you cannot make assumptions about all of them.
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The police in Britain don't help themselves it has to be said. The violent way they "handled"the vigil following the murder of Sarah Everard (murdered, incidentally, by a serving police officer who already had more than a dodgy past), coupled with handling demonstrations by far right wing agitators , with a softly softly approach, then turning a blind eye to corruption within its own heirarchy, not to mention the excessive cosiness with the senior members of the tory party are just a few reasons why people in this country are losing fasith in the police.
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@Lynda70 I have never said there wasn't. Maybe the victims of misandry need to speak out more. But it certainly doesn't paint the force in a very good light. There looks like it's fragmented and morale bad. A fragmented force wth bad morale leads to the sorts of problems the Home Secretary has highlighted.
@jackieash27 Thanks for the thumbs up. :) I've really enjoyed this conversation; it's a change to have a frank exchange of views while being civil to each other :)
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
Sorry but pretending the issue is just a "few bad apples" is making excuses for a systemic problem. And if other officers turn the other way and pull the "blue wall" nonsense they are all bad apples. Colluding and covering for bad actors is effectively an endorsement of the behavior. In the US in particular the "good ones" are the exception to the rule.
cyberdude28 · 31-35, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I'm not saying these things are correct but let me ask you this; are you morally perfect?
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@cyberdude28 Whether I am or not is totally irrelevant. Responding with a logical fallacy is not a great starting point.
cyberdude28 · 31-35, M
@SW-User but the police are necessary and serve a function no?
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@cyberdude28 That's kind of the question. Do we need a police force or could the functions we want them to serve be done better in other ways?
cyberdude28 · 31-35, M
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
The availability heuristic. Most people don't have any interactions at all with police in their daily lives, so they base their perception of them by what they see online or in the news, and since those platforms have an incentive to get people angry and keep them engaged, they mostly show the negative.
So people go on to have negative views about the police given what they see and with little to no exposure to anything else, the balance is easily tipped towards what you're describing
So people go on to have negative views about the police given what they see and with little to no exposure to anything else, the balance is easily tipped towards what you're describing
@SW-User Here in Britain, the only time social workers are mentioned is when something goes tragically, like a parent killing their child either with violence or neglect. The cry goes out "Where were the social workers? What do we pay our taxes for?" They are one of those groups of people who when things go right, no one notices, because a case successfully sorted by social workers is not news.
NortiusMaximus · M
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@cyberdude28 Dont worry. Mine already did long ago and here I am😄
GeniUs · 56-60, M
Don't know about other countries but the UK suffers from a broken legal system and instead of people who are qualified and smart enough to fix it they exploit it. How long can you fastidiously do your job for, seeing your efforts wasted when it gets to court before you become blasé about it?
Yes there are people who will always be dedicated and some were always bad but the ones between the 2 extremes who are affected by doing a job for no effect are the ones that can be changed.
Yes there are people who will always be dedicated and some were always bad but the ones between the 2 extremes who are affected by doing a job for no effect are the ones that can be changed.
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
bijouxbroussard · F
@assemblingaknob True. But not in all jobs do they have the power of life and death over everyone they encounter.
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
@bijouxbroussard you make a good point.
bijouxbroussard · F
Unfortunately, there’s something about the culture in many departments that encourages police officers to profile. My brother, who was a police officer for several years (retired recently) and entered the academy with a certain amount of idealism, told me a few things he observed over the years.
cyberdude28 · 31-35, M
@bijouxbroussard Yeah like I said it's not so simple unfortunately
gol979 · 41-45, M
Its the system. Not all police are "bad" but they represent a corrupt system and most times are the legitimised violent arm of this putrid system
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@basilfawlty89 The security industry also would arguably fall into that. Having worked in that industry you get told your job is to protect property, information, and people and largely in that order.
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Anyone who actually likes or embraces the police is a cuck lol
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
The sickness is in the system. Policing itself is problematic.
Mysterion619 · 26-30, M
Most of them are bad though
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
Not all cops are bad, but very few cops are good. They might be good people outside of uniform but they are bad cops.
This is because good cops are very quickly pushed out of the system. You see, a good cop challenges the behavior of bad cops and holds them accountable. But the moment a good cop brings charges upon a bad cop, they lose all support within their department. They are ostracized, slow to receive backup, and generally bullied until they become ineffectual, toe the line, or quit.
In this case, a few bad apples is absolutely true because the other apples are capable of identifying and throwing the bad ones out of the bunch. The fact that they don't makes them also bad.
This is because good cops are very quickly pushed out of the system. You see, a good cop challenges the behavior of bad cops and holds them accountable. But the moment a good cop brings charges upon a bad cop, they lose all support within their department. They are ostracized, slow to receive backup, and generally bullied until they become ineffectual, toe the line, or quit.
In this case, a few bad apples is absolutely true because the other apples are capable of identifying and throwing the bad ones out of the bunch. The fact that they don't makes them also bad.
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