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Guys...Do You Open the Door for a Girl?

My daughter started dating this guy and after the third date she asked him why he didn't open the car door for her. He responded, "Can't you do it?" She said, "Of course I can, but it would be nice if you did." My husband always opens the door for me, runs and opens doors for other people, holds the elevator door open for people, helps them with their groceries, returns shopping carts, and other simple but kindly gestures (FYI... my daughters and I also do these things). Is it a lost thing? Maybe I'm old fashioned, but to me it's just the right thing to do.
I open the door for anyone, regardless of gender. It's a courtesy thing rather than a chivalry thing.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@LukeTheDuke Great to hear! Wish everyone was like that!
CCMorgan · 51-55, M
@LukeTheDuke You beat me to it luke! That was what I was going to say...
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
I notice that even young children (boys and girls) hurry to hold open doors at our little post office. Some parents are setting good examples.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@SuitGentleman I agree. We learn from our experiences.
SuitGentleman · 56-60, M
@SimplyTracie We do indeed. We pass on a lot to our children. Good and bad.
MartinII · 70-79, M
Yes. I think it’s just good manners. Of course some ladies object on equality or feminist grounds.

Equally, I’m glad to say that young ladies quite often offer me their seat on the London Underground - more often, I think, than young men do. I think that’s good manners too, and I am grateful. Fortunately, however, I am still quite able-bodied, so I always refuse politely!
@MartinII Double win! Thank you for your thoughtfulness, and I donMt need it!
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@MartinII Yes, it should work both ways. People in general need to be more polite and thoughtful!
Ramon67 · 61-69, M
I still open the door for others , not just for women .
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@MushroomFaerie Awwww, I know you would! There are some really nice people who hold the door for us, but sadly there are enough that don't.
Ramon67 · 61-69, M
You’re right . Seems like people only care about themselves and have no manners .
thetucker · 61-69, M
@livingaloha Just not right! Very sad. I go out of my way at times to help out. We were at a store the other day, I was holding the door open for an older couple about to enter two "kids" tried to cut in front, I stopped them and told them to wait. The kids gave me a weird look and I said it's call respect.
yes. i even offer my seat on public transport or places.. 😇
way too many ppl from broken homes who didnt have a father there 24-7 to teach them respect.. would be Ones theory :)
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout You have a point.
lostinspice · 51-55, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout such a pity women are not capable of teaching the same sort of respect a man can teach, eh?!
To me, too. Some think it's meaningless, but I don't think courtesy is ever meaningless.

A man opening a door for me tells me he is aware of my existence, that he cares about my comfort, that he wants to make sure I'm safe in the car. It may not mean any of that, but that's how I take it. And sooner or later I'll return the favor somehow.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@Mamapolo2016 Too bad life can't be that simple for people anymore. Why do they try and make things so complicated?
@livingaloha I don't know. Every day, I feel more and more like 'back at my old school...'
Fauxmyope2 · 26-30, F
You and your family do the right thing. Thank you for being courteous and making the world kinder through you actions.

While I don’t mind opening up my own door, I appreciate it when a guy thinks enough of me to do so. My sister and I were raised to hold a door for others. It feels nice to do something nice for others.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@Fauxmyope2 I think a lot has to do with how you're raised. Keep it up, even if others don't.
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livingaloha · 41-45, F
@SW-User I think we all should! Thanks!
@SW-User yeah me too and I find handfuls of people walking through while I'm standing there like a doorman and nobody says anything... So weird. They do it when you let a car in too... They all take advantage
thetucker · 61-69, M
I was raised to be a gentleman. Open doors, carry bags etc for women. I raised my son the same way. My daughter she will do the same for women that are older or anyone that obviously needs assistance. I think it is slowly being lost.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@thetucker Glad to hear that so many people are passing down common courtesy and respect down to their children. Thanks!
SuitGentleman · 56-60, M
If being a gentleman is old fashioned then mark me down as old fashioned.
SuitGentleman · 56-60, M
@SW-User Thank you beautiful lady. I enjoy being old fashioned.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@SuitGentleman We all could use a little more old-fashioned people in this world! Count me in as one of them.
SuitGentleman · 56-60, M
@livingaloha It takes me little effort to smile and tip you hat to someone. Common courtesy takes no effort at all. The bonus is I feel better.
jackson55 · M
Yes, I hold the door for both sexes. I dated a younger woman for awhile and when I opened the car door for her she didn't expect it. I guess it's my age group.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@jackson55 Yeah, that's what my daughter says. She's like why can't guys be like dad? Thanks for sharing!
SW-User
my thoughts: when we arrive at the door the same time, I kind of expect it to be opened for me
if I'm there before you, I'll open it myself TY
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@SW-User Yes, I don't just stand there waiting for someone to open if for me. But if they're first or at the same time, it's a nice gesture.
MikeSp · 56-60, M
She should stop wasting her time with him. If he hasn't mastered common courtesies, it makes you wonder what else is lacking.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@MikeSp Yes, you can tell a lot about someone's character by their actions.
SW-User
I'm a strong independent woman that is still hoping that chivalry isn't dead yet. Lmao whuuut 😂🤣🤣
@SW-User Lol true that
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@SW-User It isn't. You just have to look a little harder.
Pherick · 41-45, M
I open the door and hold it for anyone right behind me, guys and girls. Its just being polite.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@Pherick Yes it is! Awesome!
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
Yeah I do. I even let people with less shopping then I to go in front at the check out.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@Thevy29 The simple things in life mean so much!
SW-User
It's not a lost thing... there are many of us who still do this... even car doors.
Frankly, I think your daughter's boyfriend has failed a test... and she should drop him. It may seem a small thing now, but it's an indicator and no good can come of it.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@SW-User She did! Take note young men...stop trying so hard to impress. It's the little things that mean the most.
SW-User
@livingaloha Do you know what an equivalent test is, though not with the same urgency? You open the car door for a gal... especially when it's cold, and by the time you get to the driver's door, she leans over and opens the lock. Of course, that's no longer the case with modern cars... lol.. 😜
I do it all the time
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@darkknightt Great to hear!
I think its awkward when people run around the car to open the door for me. Like.. i can do it myself 😂

Hold the door open for people if it's not horribly inconvenient or if they need help, but don't make everything more difficult than it needs to be imo
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@TeamSkullGrunt It's not like we stand there waiting for someone to open the door for us. But if your hands are free and you get to the car at the same time, it's just a nice gesture.
Checkingoutall · 56-60, M
With many kids today it is lost. I have found that families that do this, their kids will do it. I myself am like your husband and you, all though I don't always open my wife's car door but all other doors and suck I will always hold up for her and anyone else that is just coming in or going out. At the doctor's office I held the elevator for my wife and another lady, letting them on and off first, she was about your age and when she got off the elevator, she told my wife she had a keeper because of my simple normal gesture. Life is to short not to show all others the simple kind things in life that most take for granted.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@Checkingoutall Yes, you sound like a keeper. Keep it up! Thanks!
Checkingoutall · 56-60, M
@livingaloha Keeper or not, I will always continue to respect others and be kind, even if it's just holding a door open. The world needs more people to think of others before always thinking of themselves.
lostinspice · 51-55, F
I don't think anyone ever opened the car door for me. I think I would feel infantilised if they did. But then I'm a strong independent type who puts up her own shelves, not the type who needs a daddy to look after her!
lostinspice · 51-55, F
I am not saying I don't open doors for people, give up my seat or help them out because I do, but I would feel very odd sitting in a car whilst someone else walked around the side of it to open the door I was sat right next to, and that sort of mannered courtesy is part of an everyday sexism mindset. Cultural norms also vary a lot. About 90% of the kids at the school I work in are Mipuri Pakistani and their parents don't usually say thank you if we serve them a drink at a school event. It's just not part of their culture.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
Equal rights don't mean men and women are expected to act and think exactly alike. My husband and I share 50% in our relationship, but that doesn't mean we treat each other the same way. Men and women are NOT the same...and I wouldn't want it any other way.
lostinspice · 51-55, F
We are not the same, I agree, and one of the things that is different is that women were once part of a man's goods & chattels because women were not considered capable of self determination nor physically able to withstand normal life. Many customs are from an era when this was held to be true and perpetuate this belief.
MrAverage1965 · 61-69, M
I always open a door for a lady if she if following me through and let her go first.
But I would not open a car door as I am entering through a different door.
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@Jeremazing It's kinda like - You're a guest in someone's home and you accept the offer of a drink. Your hostess says, It's in the cupboard in the kitchen.

Sure, you still get a drink, and sure, you CAN get your own drink...it's just not as hospitable.

The inconvenience is sort of the point.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
Of course not. But when we get to the car at the same time, my husband will always open the door for me then go around and get in the car. But if he's like picking me up and drives up to the curb, I don't expect him to get out and open the door for me, unless my hands are full.
SW-User
They should! I don’t think it is completely gone but we don’t see it too much anymore. I hold the door for anyone...stores, elevators and etc...
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@SW-User It should be common practice shouldn't it? Thanks!
SW-User
@livingaloha It absolutely should be!!!! ✅
It is nice but times are changing and it's not that bad for a young man not to do it in this day and age
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@MushroomFaerie Sadly, I guess that's how people think now. But too many teenagers/young adults not only not do this for their dates/significant others, but for elderly and others in need.
@livingaloha I totally agree with that. I saw a teenage boy push passed an elderly woman once... I was horrified! I should have said something but I was in shock. When I went out with my grandparents I used to make sure nobody banged into them because they did!
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@MushroomFaerie Yeah, until it happens to you, it's hard to believe that people are like that. Would like to say they're distracted from their electronic devices or whatever, but that's rarely true.
I didn't think about this at first, but if this happened on the third date, that must mean he was more courteous on the 1st and 2nd, and THAT means he's all hat and no cattle. He knows what to do to temporarily impress but too lazy and thoughtless to continue. It would be a better sign if he just didn't know.
@SW-User I think it's time we take back the streets - and the car doors.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
Yes, she has since broken up with him. I don't think it was because of the car incident. However, yes...I agree, I think he did it just to impress. I would rather have someone NOT open the door for me than just do it to impress.
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well... I mean... to me it's an indicator.. so yeah, would eventually reveal something not so great about him.
luv2fly352 · 70-79, M
I also still do the things you've mentioned and see no reason to stop doing so. Thank you for sharing!
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@luv2fly352 Great! Keep it up!
luv2fly352 · 70-79, M
@livingaloha I've been doing it since i was a kid and 7 plus decades later,i see no reason to change; to me,it is merely good manners,not just a whim or passion.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
I have held doors open for women who stand with their hands folded until I let the door close.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@MasterLee Well, it should go both ways. A person should hold the door open for the next person, whether male or female. And at the same time, no one should "expect it." It's just a nice gesture.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
Yeah, the son in law has actually told me that I spoil my wife to much and it makes him look bad
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@MarineBob My daughter said she will have a hard time finding a husband because her daddy set such high standards!
SW-User
I hope chivalry never ends. I like having the door opened for me and being treated like a woman. 😊
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@SW-User Sometimes the smallest gestures mean the most.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
Between extreme feminists screaming that even looking at a girl is sexual harassment, kindergarten classes teaching cis-gendered boys that they were born rapists, and college toxic masculinity classes telling college freshman that asking a girl for her number is virtually rape, just be thankful any kid has the courage to even talk to your daughter.
Only if she is a white, american christian.
@HungJury Thank you. May you walk with Christ also and may He experience a brief moment of inattention, may you bang your head into a brick wall, and may that knock some sense into you. Just to clarify...you and I are not on the same team.
@Mamapolo2016 You are obviously not a Christian. The Lord never suffers "inattention." Troubling. I'll pray for you.
@HungJury Thank you. I think Jesus could manage a distracted moment in a good cause. He's God. And, 'judge not, lest ye be also judged.'
luvin2flirt · 61-69, M
Yes I do..I feel every man should.
OKWTF2 · 51-55, M
I always believe attention to the little things is important. Open the door, walk on the side of trafic, pull the chair out at the table, stand when she gets up at the table, etc.. all are noticed, show admiration and respect.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@OKWTF2 It does not go unnoticed 🤗
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@OKWTF2 Yup, it's the little things that matter most. Thanks!
Leftyss · 56-60, M
The other week I had collected 5 carts by the time I got to the cart corral. I think ppl thought I may have worked there...

Only pollute for a man to open the door.

It is the small things in this looked world, that really counts..
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@Leftyss I think people should be polite and do small gestures for everyone, regardless gender or age...but there's something about a young man opening a door for young girl and a teenager lending giving their seat up for an older person. Random acts of kindness...a little bit goes a long way.
tiggerandariel13 · 41-45, MVIP
I always do my g/f
hlpflwthat · M
I wrote a story bout this at Ep - there was a group.

He's already on his way out - whether either of em knows it or not. Her parents raised her better.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@hlpflwthat The little things someone does tells his/her true character.
hlpflwthat · M
@livingaloha Precisely. No matter how he justifies his position to himself, it's a disappointment for her ... as well as her parents, I imagine.
tiggerandariel13 · 41-45, MVIP
@livingaloha I hope when my 2 oldest girls starting dating I hope the boys open the door for them
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Barelygettingby · 56-60, F
It is the right thing to do. If he could open the door for her for three dates, he could do it the rest of the time. He simply doesn't care to. :(
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@Barelygettingby Yeah, it shouldn't be for show, but because it's the right thing to do. It's the little gestures that mean the most.
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livingaloha · 41-45, F
@Jeremazing Great to hear! Thanks
tiggerandariel13 · 41-45, MVIP
my parents taught me and my 2 brothers to open doors for girls and help people
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@tiggerandariel13 Yes, a lot has to do with upbringing. Thanks.
Byron8by7 · M
Yes, I do it frequently.
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@Byron8by7 Great! Thanks!
Byron8by7 · M
@livingaloha

I was a Boy Scout and an Assistant Scoutmaster. When I hold a door for an elderly person, I say, if it's a woman, "My mom is three hundred miles away, and I can't do it for her, so I do it for you." If it is a man, I say, "I can't do it for my dad, he's gone, so I do it for you."
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@Byron8by7 Awesome!!! We should all treat people like they were someone special. Thanks!
sighmeupforthat · 46-50, M
i open the door for the needy.. blind, crippled, those who have other mobility issues, those who are working class who are pedestrians who are carrying loads... children who aren't strong enough to open the door themselves... and then some, those who really need a helping hand.

that's who.

everyone else can suck it!
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@sighmeupforthat That's great! Me, I just like to be nice to everyone...
kutee · T
gentlemen do, assholes dont
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@kutee True. Unfortunately, there's quite a few of those second kind out there.
S2dio57 · M
All of the above - taught my kids the same
😎👍🏽
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polyandrym66 · 70-79, M
It's an "old-school" thing about being a "gentleman"...
Suggest to your daughter to find a BF with grey hair...
polyandrym66 · 70-79, M
@livingaloha So, if you've got your daughter "taken care of"...
How about YOU?
livingaloha · 41-45, F
@polyandrym66 My husband treats me well, thank you!
polyandrym66 · 70-79, M
@livingaloha I'm glad to hear that. Good woman are hard to find and need to be treated well..
SW-User
She needs to drop him like a rock. If that's who he is... forget it... he will be doubly selfish on things that really matter... and what's more, he'll be oblivious to it.

How old is she?
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MartinTheFirst · 22-25, M
If i get to slap her ass 😳

 
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