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If you've lived long, have you noticed a shift in the weather patterns in your area? If, so, please describe.

Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
When i was a teenager back in the late 70's, we'd have snow; below 0 temperatures and freezing fog this time of year.

These days gone is the cold weather replaced by lengthy periods of rain.
greensnacks · 31-35, F
Yes. Winters here are every 4-5 years with snow and actual cold. When I was a kid, there was snow like clockwork In either December or November. Now it's late January and small amounts. Like few centimeters. Summers are insane. So warm. Sudden changes from Hot to cold, no mild temperatures In between. Lots of floods and similar things.
The clouds are different.
@greensnacks Guessing you might be living in the northern latitudes of the states.

I find it's harder to adjust to unfamiliar temperatures.
greensnacks · 31-35, F
@hartfire I live in/nearby the Mediterranean
@greensnacks I've noticed that's been changing depending on where around the Mediterranean. I watch the international weather and climate reports. Looks like people are needing to adapt to change everywhere - and in some places, like where the Sahara is growing and Pacific Islands losing land, that's getting impossible.

I travelled Spain, South of France, Italy and Greece maybe 40 years ago - all in summer. Loved it. Wonderful memories.
goodlil666 · 51-55, M
Yes, I live in the valley of the sun, the Phoenix metropolitan area. The cities rapid growth just in the 40 + years I have lived here went from about 1.4 million people in the metro area in the early 80's to over 4.7 million in 2024. The population growth here spreads out and not up Phx has few high rise buildings . The land area it took up in the early 80's was around 500 sq. miles . Today in 2024 that land area is over 14,000 sq. miles.

That rapid growth and expansion with all the asphalt, concrete , rooftops, has created a massive heat sink. When I moved here 40 yrs ago during monsoon, that's our rainy season from late June to mid September it would rain every night between 5-10pm every night. The moist air rolling up from Gulf of Mexico would roll across the desert. With incredible lightning shows and wild wind and rain. I have seen wind speeds up to 125 mph in the wildest storms. Over the years the storms became less and less. To the point now as you see off in the distance the storm clouds getting near 50- 80 miles away they start to get pushed up and out of the way. The extreme heat rising off the desert floor actually pushes the storms away. That's the unexpected impact of rapid growth in a fragile ecosystem. It has also raised the humidity a little bit with all the swimming pools and golf courses. The summertime humidity was always in the single digits 6-8 % now it reaches into the low teens 11-13%. That's a big difference when the air temp is 115°- 118° or more. It took scientists 20yrs to figure that out.

So now to take my lightning photos I have to chase storms hundreds of miles in a night compared to dozens of miles years ago.
@goodlil666 American and Canadian firefighters flew over to help us with those 2019 fires.
One lost his life when his plane crashed, due to a firestorm created windspout I think.
I remember staying indoors, doors and windows closed for four days, and bits of smoke still got in via the fridge, oven and shower vents. Couldn't see trees further than a meter away for the thickness of the smoke outside, glued to the radio for fire updates and warnings, and the sun a psychedelic crimson ball eerily penetrating a thick brown sky. My heart pumped loud enough to hear it for most of those days.
Our average rainfall has gone from 1.200 mm per year to between 1.5 and 1.6.

Our area (Tweed Valley) has many green minded people, enough that 3 out of 7 of our councillors are Green or green aligned. The Labour man sits on the fence but votes in favour of local pro-environment issues about half the time. That's a shift in the right direction.

I think the Conservative tendency to resist renewable energy, save old growth native forests and limit pollution is actually quite odd. It's easy to see now that climate change is devastatingly costly. A lot of the ecologically beneficial technologies are able to produce energy more cheaply. Plantation forestry can provide wood more reliably that stripping native forests. Cleaning up oceans and waterways and limiting fishing hauls will provide more and healthier food, and better livelihoods. Growing bamboo and hemp for paper, fibreboard and other building products could mean new buildings have a much lower carbon footprint. There is so much that we already know how to do. It takes a shift in the economy, but it by no means ruins business. So many big corporations are starting to recycle and learning that going green is functional on every level.
So why don't the right wing pollies understand this yet?

BTW, I write on a laptop, which makes longer conversations delicious. So glad you like to chat.
And so glad to meet a fellow campaigner for a healthier planet! :)
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@goodlil666 I agree on that wonderful list of industrial hemp products, and the health spinoffs from varietals. Israel is way ahead in research on the latter.

Terrifying and tragic, that story of the firefighters all dying like that, and the team member who couldn't warn them.

We had one story of an amazing survival in our firestorms. A man had bought a property that formerly belonged to ceramic artists. There were rolls of kilm insulation material and piles of kiln fire-bricks left lying around. He built an igloo out of the bricks, butted up against the concrete foundations. He lined it with the insulation. When the fire got close enough, he crawled inside and sealed himself in. The firestorm passed over, destroyed everything except the old kiln, the concrete house-foundation and his igloo. It didn't last long, so there was no risk of him suffocating - though I imagine one could probably include a diver's air tank and bottles of water.
I think it creates a few hints about how we could build safer houses.

What legislation was passed, during the Biden administration, that you see as disastrous?
Or was it the inability to pass enough legislation?
And affecting what kinds of issues on the national level?
Gusman · 61-69, M
I honestly believe that the sun seems to be more intense than it was 30 years ago.
When I venture out on hot, sunny days I do all that I can to avoid direct sunlight. Long sleeves, a hat, even an unbrella if I am sitting outside at the cricket, baseball etc.
I no longer enjoy going out into the Australian bush at the height of summer. Too hot, with no escape from the extreme heat.

Less rainfall, mass trees dying off due to drought conditions. Sometimes it will not rain for 3 months here in Perth. Or minimal rain 1 or 2 mm in that time. Unheard of decades ago.
goodlil666 · 51-55, M
@hartfire You will have to let me know how it works. Maybe consider some way to incorporate those silicone beads that you freeze and can wear around your neck to fit inside the hat. Just a thought.
@goodlil666 Silicone beads strung on fishing line could add comfort on the tie - interesting idea.
Will post a photo when done. :)
Gusman · 61-69, M
@goodlil666 Yes, there is every possibility age could be a factor.
I feel the cold me now than in the past.
Seeing mass die off of trees due to lack of rain does net bode well for the future though.
Perth's long term average annual rainfall up to 2001 was 803 mm - 31".
From 2001 the average rainfall has fallen to 683 mm - 27"
The dams are not filling. This has two reasons, increased population requiring more water, less rainfall.
Mundaring Weir last overflowed in 1996.
tindrummer · M
Never gets as warm or cold as a few years ago here on the central California coast.
Pretty sure it's global warming.
@tindrummer Sheesh!
My school geography lessons described California as having the widest variation of terrains of any state in the USA, "mediterranean" in the most arable areas - great for wine and olives, - and Spanish style crops.
Maybe if I looked at the CA stats online, I might be able to see how the patterns are changing.
Thank you for your responses. :)
If I could afford to travel, CA would be one of the places I'd love to explore.
tindrummer · M
@hartfire Where are you?
Hope you get to travel here.
I love it especially for varied outdoor fun stuff - mtns and coast.
Sierra Nevada and Big Sur among others.
@tindrummer On rural land near Tyalgum village, Tweed Valley, Far North Coast NSW, Australia.
If I could, I'd love to go as a cook on an ocean going 14-berth sailing yacht with solar power.
Yes, I love what I've seen in film of those wonderful mountains. Ours here are so ancient they've been worn to nubs by the millions of years. Yours are still young and growing, large enough to dwarf mere humans and put us in our proper place.
I'd also love the music, galleries, universities, Esalon, the naturalist movements, do a camping trail on horseback in the wild, sample the varied cultures, spanish/mexican, etc. Would love to watch the kaleidoscope of people along the broadwalks of the beaches. And maybe swim out into the sealife. 🙂
Ynotisay · M
I understand the difference between weather and climate but it's the seasons, and their predictably as far as weather and time, that I've definitely seen change. Extremes are becoming the norm.
22Michelle · 61-69, T
As a kid, back in the 1960's snow fell and stayed for weeks, if not months on end. Now we hardly see any. Even 20 - 30 years ago as my kids were growing up there would be lots of snow days. I'd be shovelling snow for days on end. And back then we d have a holiday every October (school holidays). And once home the heating was on pretty much full on, and stayed like that until March - April. Past five years or so heating goes on much later, goes off much sooner and is constantly being turned up or down. Also, due to storms, I've had to have my garden fence repaired / replaced three times in about the same period having not had that issue in the previous 28 yesrs.
Climate change is real, it's already here and it's one of the main reasons for immigration, both legal and illegal.
@22Michelle Yes, that immigration issue is major. When agriculture fails due to desertification, or greater unpredictability of weather for crops, that causes many people to leave their homes in search of food security. That's a major issue for countries perceived as "food rich".
Neoerectus · M
Hotter and drier, with shorter cold season with less snow. Precip down 15 % from historic norms. Snow half or less from norns. Even native tree species stressed.
@Neoerectus Wondering where you are.
Ingrigued by that avatar image of a camel!
Neoerectus · M
@hartfire Nothing exotic, unfortunately, a l ocal guy who used to broker animals has a little family of camels... Go by routinely to say hello...
@Neoerectus Oh, how I envy that cameleer!
Hoping one day to do a camping holiday on camelback in the Australian far outback, Arhemland or similar. They have them as eco-tourism.
Camels are so affectionate when treated well.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
We used to have regular winters with snow. Now it gets cool and maybe it rains. Every summer sets records for heat.

This is a red state. The politicians and most of the public will still tell you global warming is a hoax.
hunkalove · 61-69, M
Definitely. Global warming has been great here in Denver. We really don't get much Winter anymore. An hour ago I was out for a walk in shorts and a hoodie. Forty years ago that didn't happen in December.
Hotter, drier summers. More humidity too.
Winters are colder and less snow.
Spring is getting shorter. It often goes from winter to a brief rainy period than rushes into summer.
akindheart · 61-69, F
yes. we are hotter. i also noticed the difference in the Mendenhall glacier in pics. it is definitely shrinking
Frostcloud · F
@akindheart sometimes i look at pics comparing glaciers now and 100 years ago and it's honestly terrifying
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Alter4Ego · 56-60, M
yes, massively.

When I was 10 the leaves were off the trees by early october. Now early november.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@Alter4Ego and you are complaining
Alter4Ego · 56-60, M
@Patriot96 was there one word of complaint in what was a purely factual post?
I used to live in land in the mid 1990s, the summers were sunny and hot but in those days we had the worst frosts most peak winter month days. Now I live by the coast and see much less frost and ice. It’s windier and less humid/hot in the summer. There is about equal amounts of sunshine. It often warms up over night at the coast while it’s unusual in land. It’s a damp cold often between November and February. Snow fell about once every winter when I was a kid living in land but now it’s about once every 3 years for heavy snow.
supersnipe · 61-69, M
I'm 67. More high winds and storms than I remember in my younger years, also snow is less common in winter.
exexec · 61-69, C
Yes, hotter. Does not cool off at night. Hurricanes hitting us are wetter (51 inches from Harvey).
Yes, and yet people still think there's no global warming
@Royricky09 I think those who deny it are becoming a tiny minority. There's still a strong contingent who believe it's part of the natural warming since the last ice-age, caused by volcanos (which has been disproven by vulcanologists and geologists).
And some fundamentalists believe it's part of God's plan for Armageddon.

There are those who don't yet understand that we're still at the lowest end of what is an exponential feedback loop - such that, while we can somewhat adapt to climate change, the higher it goes the more disastrous it will be. The has the heating of atmosphere and oceans has the momentum of a juggernaut: the hotter it gets, the more effort will be needed and longer it will take to return earth's climactic system back to it's natural trajectory.

I think we're already past the point of no return.
I'm sorry if what I've shared is too obvious.
@hartfire right
AndysLoft · 56-60, M
You don't have to lived too long to notice.
Jacko1971 · 51-55, M
It's got warmer and wetter.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
Winters are less severe it seems
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
Much hotter in summers; somewhat colder in winters. The morning marine layer fog that used to cool things in summer almost never seen. The tule fogs in the Central Valley that made driving so treacherous during winters mainly a memory.
@dancingtongue I feel a kind of sadness - much improved from the agonising grief of a few years ago. I was profoundly attached to the natural beauty of our area. In recent years, native plants from far north Queensland have started propagating around here like weeds, brought in the poop of fruit bats. One of the weeds, Devil's Fig, is covered in thorns like a torture device. Some of new trees are quite beautiful. I've realised that this is a sign that our subtropical zone is becoming more tropical. Our mangos rarely survived the early spring storms, but now with the winter dry (usually) lasting longer and the summers getter wetter, the mangos are proliferating.
Maybe this is a part of how nature might adapt - at least to some extent. Though the evidence of increasing extinctions of species is telling a different story.

I've learned to accept that what we're experiencing, even though man-made, is just a part of the vast story of extinctions and evolution.
From the universe's "point of view" we are all just a blink in time.
bookerdana · M
We usually have a hurricane or a near miss butt they all stayed well South...in the Gulf of Mexico.

I hate to say the Winters are more temperate and curse the streak


I watch Ryan Hall y'all on youtube and the weather is strange all over
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
I'm not that old and I am not sure if my perception isn't biased by periods when I was pretty oblivious to the weather because I was busy with school or was staying indoors too much. But I remember that when I was a teenager, the seasons seemed bland. Summer wasn't hot enough and winter didn't have snow, like I remembered it from my childhood. In recent years, I think it got back to normal though and winter is winter, even if later, not around Christmas and summer is hot like a summer should be. 2010 was the rainiest year I ever experienced, even the river that flows through our city spilled out, the summer was disgusting, cold and wet and they say it was caused by the eruption of the volcano on Iceland.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
I've noticed the weather forecasts are pretty often wrong.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
@hartfire I understand the problem. I'm simply saying the weather reports are just not accurate enough to be counted on.
@Nitedoc Sorry for having stated the unnecessary.
Am aware that some regions are becoming far less predictable.
In my area, I can still rely on the weather (most of the time) to help me prepare for the following day's work. Pulling weeds by the roots after rain, slashing 8' high grass when it's dry, and indoor chores when wet.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
@hartfire No problem, it's fine.
Frostcloud · F
every winter felt less and less cold in arizona. monsoon season hasn't felt like what it did as a kid.

i moved to a new state and my roommate said ten years ago we'd have snow by now, but the snow is barely patchy today
GuyWithOpinions · 31-35, M
Im not that old but i have notice the seasons have kinda shifted. We get less snow than usual per year and when we do its a big dump, then it melts. I live in the plains, the weather seems more erratic than usual.
Yep, this is the new tornado alley. It used to be Oklahoma. Now it's the south-eastern US.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@PhoenixPhail kinda makes you wonder if the EXPERTS were correct in the past about cause of tornadoes
@Patriot96 I think they were correct about the cause, it's just that the jet stream has shifted over the years.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Not really. There are many many changes within changes. Daily, Weekly, Monthly Seasonally, Annual, Decade, etc etc etc. Each year is different and yes we should expect glaciers to be melting. They have been shrinking for hundreds if not thousands of years.
Wireman · 31-35, M
Only when I think of climate change and then remember the funny plane trails and very funny clouds. I'm still trying to remember if we are going to freeze or boil in ten years time.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@Wireman over forty dire predictions by EXPERTS . Not one has come true
Wireman · 31-35, M
@Patriot96 All the predictions, and all man made experiments.
I definitely have. When I was growing up in my city, heavy fog was a regular occurrence and the rain was comparable to what one sees in Seattle. Now it’s rarely seriously foggy and it only rains a few times a year. There’s indeed been a difference in the 60+ years I’ve lived here.
Haven't you heard? Climate change is a Chinese hoax.
@MaBalzEsHari Like Covid. Oh, wait, never mind.
@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays Yeah all of that is made up. The REAL things though are Lizard People and the deep state and the Cabal. And weather machines.
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i remember as a kid in the 70s we'd have more snow and a bit colder..but not by much.
I moved out of my hometown when I was 30. How can I answer your question meaningfully?
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Its called weather. It changes
Thrust · 56-60, M
@Patriot96 weather has NEVER been static
Jeephikelove · 51-55, F
Yes I have noticed them
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
No, not a bit.
SandWitch · 26-30, F
I was born and raised in northern Sweden at 67* North Latitude, which is the top end of the Baltic Sea and adjacent to the border with Finland. Over the last 20 years, our growing season was only two months long, July and August, but now we get two crops of everything because the growing season is now four months long, June, July, August and September.
tindrummer · M
@SandWitch heart 🤓
@SandWitch Some advantages to climate change in a few rare places. Lucky you! :)
tindrummer · M
@hartfire same deal here in central coastal California - even more temperate - so lucky
Musicman · 61-69, MVIP
Weather goes in cycles. Every so many years it comes back around again.
goodlil666 · 51-55, M
@Musicman It can also be altered by circumstances. Such is the case where live.
@Musicman That's true, though I've been finding the cycles themselves are changing, at least compared to the times we have on record.

 
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