At first i believed this news and got furious but after further research this turned out to be false.
Algeria does not allow transgenders nor anything related to the lgtbq it’s literally IlLEGAL there. Do you think Algeria a Muslim conservative country would let a transgender represent them ? Imane is not a transgender . she was NOT assigned male at birth and then changed that. She was assigned female at birth because she has a vulva and a uterus and everything a female baby has (wasn’t your definition of a woman someone born with female reproductive organs ? lol) And she has been a female since birth and was never classified as a male.
Apparently imane has lost many times before Why didn’t people say the same thing whenever she lost? Or only gonna complain when she wins? She lost for instance to the Irish boxer Kellie Harrington . She lost in the Olympics 2020 and nobody said a thing, and was beaten by 9 other women.
just because her Italian opponent quit after 46 seconds That does not make imane a man But makes her opponent a cry baby and a coward there is a story of a Saudi girl (Hattan Al sayf) she’s a girl She she beat her Egyptian opponent in a boxing competition with one strike in 41 seconds. Does that make the Saudi girl a man? Nope
Beating your opponent with one strike or in less than a minute doesn’t magically turn u into the other gender. Imane actually has few KO’s in her entire career.
The IOC has gone public with the fact that she meets all the criteria to compete and is a biological woman.
why is michael phelps so worshiped by the olympics community when he was also born with genetic advantages but imane is evlized ? Both men and women produce testosterone But men produce more testosterone Even if Imane produces more testosterone than average woman that doesn’t make her a man.
You can debate this all you want but hating on this woman who was also born woman and calling her a transgender is disgraceful.
And most importantly you’d rather talk about this instead of the rapists and criminals allowed to compete in the Olympics.
@Torsten Because those studies were purely based on athletic results. They showed that in some (not all) sports, males that have been on HRT for a year no longer have an advantage.
If you can accept that reality, we can move on to the studies that show HRT can break down muscle and bone mass.
@BohemianBabe no i asked to prove what you claimed that hrt reverses bone density and basically makes a biological male the same as a biological female because if you can not prove that HRT can reverse what happens with male puberty and that being bone density and lung capactiy, you have no arguement here. Those two things alone give biological males a advantage over women and HRT does not reverse that or change it
@LordShadowfire Because as my reply explains, I'm not claiming that he's transgender. I never said that, so how can I be lying?
Hmm, what incentive would there be for them to not correct it? 🤔🥇
And you talk about 'ignoring'. The test results?
IBA: 'we have tested this athlete and the results show xy chromosomes, therefore will be removed from the female category' IOC: 'well, we didn't do those tests and it says female on the passport, so that's good enough for us'. The world: 'you don't maybe want to do your own test, to ensure a man isn't going to be punching a woman in the head?' IOC: 'no, we're good'
@Moon3624 I'm American, we don't have a Prime Minister, we have a President.
The US provides Israel with military aid not because Israel is a "parasite." 100% of that aid must be spent back in the US, so it ends up supporting American military contractors. This also means those contractors have a ready market for parts and maintenance that Israel pays for above and beyond the aid they get. It also means the US military is kept in a constant state of readiness instead of having to ramp up production when it's needed. This is why the aid continues, not because of AIPAC or some nefarious Jewish plot to control Congress. You should redirect your hatred of Israel to the American military-industrial complex instead.
I've never been to Israel and don't plan on going until Likud is out of power.
I'm surprised you haven't joined Hamas yet, or ISIS which seems more up your alley.
Also, I didn't "drag" Israel into this thread, you did. You've got Israel on the fucking brain.
@Moon3624 If she is a female, why was it necessary to review her DNA test and make a decision as to her eligibility? No other women had to have that done.
My initial comment of "biological male" was more in general to the realities of women's sports right now, as opposed to this particular issue. Again, there was a massive amount of contradictory information about this story when it first came out. You are researching the damage control.
You seem to have done the research. I don't agree with the conclusions drawn.
Do you understand that? I don't have to provide evidence of my opinion.
@SumKindaMunster A discredited Russian testing organization disqualified her based on fake testosterone levels after she beat a Russian boxer. As a supporter of Russia, I can see why you would take that seriously. In reality, she was born female and comes from Algeria, where gender care is illegal.
I don't have the time or the energy to remark upon every example of this happening, but have to bring attention to this, as it's not getting out there nearly as much as the boxing situation.
This is in the paralympics. One of these competitors is a 51 year old man, racing against women 20 years+ younger than him because he feels like a woman (I don't know what his wife and kids think of it). Luckily he is reducing his testosterone so it's fair for him to compete(!) 🙄 Never mind the women who miss out on their opportunity for his benefit.
@LordShadowfire Yeah, because I think it's wrong. You cannot change your sex. Sport is segregated by sex. In his personal life he is free to explore any expression of gender identity that he wishes. It doesn't make him a woman. He can get a certificate, change his passport, cut off balls... he should still not be taking the place of a woman in women's sport. He's 50 years old. How else is he even vaguely competitive against women half his age if not for the inherent male advantage he has? Pushing out other women, taking their dream to satisfy his own selfish desire.
@Askeladd i agree with what you say i understand woman desire equal rights with men but on this one you must be realistic. a woman in the boxing ring with a man well the odds are really stacked against the woman plus i hate the whole idea it sounds like llegal domestic violence
I heard about this. It's a shame they are just ruining anything about women or womens sports actual women competing and not having to compete against weird men to say the least. Stay out of locker rooms out of changing areas stay away from young girls creeps.
@LeopoldBloom 'The Russians, the Russians, the Russians'. The IBA asked for the tests, but it was two independant labs, in two different countries, under the authority of the CAS that did the testing. The tests are sound. The athletes didn't appeal. Even if you don't take that as proof, it should cast enough doubt that the IOC would perform new tests to ensure eligibility. They wouldn't let a heavy weight fight a light weight because they have a note that says they weigh 60kg. You are so short sighted on this. A 'non-issue'. You'll either change your tune in the next few years or look increasingly deranged.
@Askeladd The boxer in question was identified as female at birth. She has never identified as anything else but female. It is illegal for her to identify as male in her home country.
@Illyria yes as I said the Olympics don't care _ meaning they have their own ways and I wonder did they tell the other female boxers that those two have high levels of male testosterone.
And everyone knows in competitions if you don't like the rules don't compete.
But people can still protest - it's protest throughout history that usually makes things a bit more if not totally equal.
as did I have it pointed out to me on the post I posted and I did more research and found information that wasn't available or that I could not find on the original date I made the post. Then I change the wording on my post.
