Why Is Atheism So Important?

I can't believe people don't take sin more seriously, or even believe Jesus, when He told us point blank that sin keeps us separated from God the Father and eternal life in heaven, until we repent. How in the world do they think they're going to get to heaven without God's instructions and help? It's unbelievable how many people and just so sad how many people are going to hell because they refused God's Plan of Salvation, the only thing that could have saved them. And how hard is that? Not hard at all because Jesus did the hard part on the cross. Gave his very life to save us and then they ignore his offer to pay for their sins. All they would have had to do, is ask Jesus to forgive them, yet they act like it's too hard to do. I think if they knew how horrific hell is, they would take their souls destination more seriously. There's no words for how bad hell is and Jesus did nothing but try to save us from that. If they were out in a boat in the ocean and the boat was sinking, they would be desperate to grab the rope from the person trying to save them, yet they won't grab Jesus's offer to save them from hell. Idols certainly are not going to save them because they can't hear us, see us, nor answer us. And it's so tragic beyond words, that so many people are going to reject Jesus's offer to save them, and the Bible says there's so many going to go to hell, that hell has had to enlarge itself. Now that's very scary. And all they would have had to do is grab Jesus's lifeline. What in the world is so hard about that?

You make sweeping generalisations, like atheism "offers no hope for those who claim to be its follower."

Your theoligical obsession makes you think a person "follows" atheism, when they do nothing of the sort. They simply don't have a belief in your God. They don't attend an atheist church, they don't regularly meet in groups. Your entire idea of atheists is based on a fallacy in your own muddled head. I'm not insulting you, I'm pointing out that you're clearly not qualified to debate this.

Secondly, I'm an atheist and I'm content and happy in my life. I'm a support worker dedicated to looking after disabled and vulnerable people. My organisation is secular. I help people, I give money to charity. I enjoy walking in the forest and watching the rain. I enjoy being with people I love for the relatively short space of time I'll be alive. My heart is full of hope. I simply believe that when I die, I'll just cease to exist, my body will rot and I'll be oblivious to anything thereafter. The world will continue without me, children will be born, more people will die.

You seem to think atheism means we're all crawling around on the floor, being miserable and crying "Woe unto me!" because we don't open our hearts to the Lord. You couldn't be more wrong. Atheism means you don't regard all events as being the Will of God. An atheist doesn't wait for God to help, he doesn't lie prostrate praying for holy guidance. An atheist recognises that they will have to solve their issues themselves, that they need their fellow humans, not God, to achieve things. It's actually a pro-active state of mind. I know my problems can't be solved by any God. I recognise that it is me that has to work to improve my life. It's me that has to follow my own path and that my mistakes are mine alone. I have no excuse that some supernatural being might play a part in events in my life. I'm not passively hoping God will solve the myriad issues in the world and that human beings have to work together, here, now, on earth, in order to solve them. You can't get your head around that because, ironically, you're blinded by your belief in God and cannot see any of this.

In fact, 'atheism' is a term that should not even exist. No one ever needs to identify himself as a 'non-astrologer' or a 'non-alchemist'. We do not have words for people who doubt that Elvis is still alive or that aliens have traversed the galaxy only to molest ranchers and their cattle. Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make in the presence of unjustified religious beliefs.
Sam Harris

i KNOW nothing i say here will change your mind, but you should at least have some understanding of those you oppose.
here are some answers


1) atheist's love life! it is precious, it is finite, and you only get one.
so embrace each moment of it, revel in the glory of living, share of yourself that others may also be happy and thrive.,. They will not give it away for the profit of others, usually those of privilege and authority by trading it against some un provable afterlife

2) the Faithful SEEM to hate life, (unless it is a fetus) doing all they can to transcend it, yearning for the death of all people and the destruction of the world. the "end of days" is sought as a great value, to be encouraged and embraced

3) Un believers do not require YOU to belive as they do. they may suggest you will be happier if you let go of these religious urges, but except for the desire to live in a world where they are not reviled, there is no point in trying to get others to believe as they do

4) The Faithful ( with the notable exception of the Hebrew faith) seem driven to get others to be "converted" YOu must be as we are or suffer eternal torment or possibly just non existence. Like The Borg, on star trek
You will be assimilated, you purpose will be to service US

5) You are mistaken. if you ever listened to such persons ( links on request, and I know you will not want such) they will tell you of the mountains of human suffering caused by religion, rape warfare genocide slavery and every Human Cruelty is supported by religion, even if only for "special cases" the lose of the Finite Life as mentioned above, is a horrid waste in service to these abusive ways. So too, they offer more complete explanations as to the nature of the universe, every discovery revealing more of what you would call "creation"

6) NO! You cant hate a thing ii do not believe it exists. what do they hate? the cruelty of religious practice, the millions of lives wasted in service to spiritual authority

7) that the only truth yo know, is descended from Mesopotamian Empires of the early bronze age tell it clearly, Big Guy In charge is the thing!
the only thing! all must bow to Sargon or Lugalbanda or be crushed and damned! lets take that and make a religion of it. Great way to keep peasants in the field making the owners and ruler more wealthy

8) YOU ARE AN Atheist,,, at some level. do you believe that Thor is real? or Ammon Ra? or Mars or Kwan Yin? NO! you deny they even exist So do we?!you just have one more to go
not believing in your bronze age sky lord is to us no different than not believing in Set or Astarte.


I understand that no source of information no idea that does not come from a collection of books you cant even read, can be considered
you are un interested IN evidence. will ignore the very nauter of the world to support what you belive

science changes its views, depending on what can be observed
Faith ignores observation, so that belief can be preserved

Why is atheism Important?
because it resists the oppressions of the human race
because it stands against slavery
because life is precious and finite, and unique
because Bowing to Idols, even Invisible ones is a waste of the human mind and dignity

and because, as you state in the image above
ALL WILL OBEY or be destroyed

You are right! Atheism is a temporary condition, because when all, and I mean all people on earth stand before Christ, as promised in the Bible, on Judgment Day, they won't be atheists anymore. They will see the Truth, face to face.

I'll give my answer.

I'm probably best described as an atheist. This comes after growing up attending an evangelical church from birth until mid teens and again church of England from late teens through early 20s. I just couldn't believe. Too much that makes to my mind no sense, too many contradictions etc.

So I now think that there probably is no omnipotent power that controls the universe to some ineffable plan.

When I came to that position (for many years I called myself a militant agnostic but no one got that gag) I found it for me very freeing. I'm not bound by the need to behave in a predescibed way to ensure my entry into heaven. I don't believe in heaven or hell. I'm basically an existentialist.

Hang on - some of you might be saying you are active in a 12 step fellowship. How? Luckily the 12 step programme whilst having God throughout the steps allows that Higher Power to be of your choosing. If you believe in God, Allah etc very useful. I stumbled early on with that. Then an atheist in the programme (he ran the rehab I attended) suggested Good Orderly Direction or Group of Drunks. I use the latter.

I'd postulate that actually atheism is the constant and religion is the temporary condition. Where are the old Norse religions? The ancient Egyptian, Aztec etc etc? And we don't appear to have any consensus on what is the one religion and they often argue exclusive rights to the stairway to heaven.

I also wish people would understand how short the time is before Jesus will be back. As he said, today is the day of salvation. That's something we definitely should not put off.

Atheists don't hate God, they just don't believe he exists. They are A-theists not anti-theists😉

I'm not an atheist, I'm agnostic. Regardless, my problem would be choosing which god.

Ra? Osiris? Horus?
Manitou? Tsohanoai?
Fujin? Amaterasu-Ōmikami?
Shangdi? Zhongli Quan?
Odin? Frigg? Thor?
Zeus? Hera? Apollo? Artemis?

Heck, it's all so confusing! Maybe I'll become Buddhist so I can get reincarnated and have more lifetimes to choose!!

You’re using unverified dogma, to prove that the dogma represents the truth.

In other words, you’re engaging in circular logic. It does not work.

Others further imply that atheism is morally bankrupt, when in fact some of the most ardent humanists are atheists, and religion was used to justify wars and genocide.

I don’t want to dissuade you from believing in ghosts, but I take issue with you classifying me as a amoral.

Atheism only tells you what a person does not believe in: the supernatural. it does not tell what they do believe in. I call myself a secular humanist.

The most important thing is religious tolerance. I will respect your right to be a Christian if you will respect my right to be a secular humanist.

LIVE AND LET LIVE

While there is no such thing as a celestial God of any kind, religions do serve a very useful purpose in human societies. When you compare societies that have had a strong religion, regardless of what it was, to those that didn't, you will see that the strong religious ones were more advanced in comparison to those that didn't. The religious ones made significant advancements in such things as architecture, medicine, reading and writing.

Societies that have had a strong religion have been able to focus their creative efforts on things that will improve their overall quality of life.

As you know, there have been numerous attempts at creating secular political societies, but they have all been unsuccessful because the majority of people simply don’t believe in the basic political idea of the particular movement. That is why people tossed slavery, the KKK, fascism, Nazism, and are dropping communism. None of those political movements provided the social attractiveness that religions offer.

Although religions are based on fairytales, they are necessary in order to maintain strong societies because there are no credible alternatives at this time.

From the river to the sea.

You’ve been watching “God’s not Dead” again, haven’t you. What else re-enforces such a shallow and unrealistic view of Atheist.

Hope is not necessary if one learns how to be happy no matter what transient events, pleasant or unpleasant, we experience.

When I first added a post hoping people join me in thanking God for the release of hostages and prisoners in Palestine, I had personal abuse claiming I was a charlatan. And the anti God brigade threw abuse. I remodelled the post. And now I find the American politics guys are trying to stir things up.

A great Jewish spiritual master, Hayim of Tsanz, was asked, "Why does God allow atheism in the world? What use is it?"

Rabbi Hayim answered: "It is very useful. When someone in need asks you for help, don't tell them 'God will help you!' Be an 'atheist' - help them yourself!"

I can't MAKE myself believe anything. One either believes, or one doesn't. A person can PRETEND to believe, but I don't think that would fool St Peter.... if he and the Pearly Gates actually exist..

Atheism is ok in my opinion for people who got hurt bad in there lives and finds it hard to have a conception with the word God cause then if they meet someone that believes in God and had the same experience as them gives them a belief of something to hold on to .
Like if they say there Athesim . You can say fair enough . I’ve down the same road as that and then gives them a bit of hope for the future if they see someone else believing in God .
See you can’t leave people out with religious beliefs . That stuff creates wars .
It’s also then fuels by people Self hatred and they blame God

Ya, but thats how you feel the difference in your soul. Like, when I was an atheist it was completely different state of my soul and after I got baptized/found God... I literally began to feel some weird new life ...somewhere deep in my soul, that wasn’t there before. So, its probably for comparison of two different spiritual states 🤔🤔🤔idk Something like that 🤷‍♀️It seems to me at least...

Actually atheism can be a permanent condition where they will not ever believe.

Remember it is said that "There will be gnashing of teeth and great weeping" The gnashing part will be for those who hated God and hated the rules and hated the fact that there is a God.

The great weeping will be from those who were acting hypocritical and not as the religion says to act. Not one religion has the lock on salvation it is as if you live through Christ and be as him.

That's your key.

I liked Terry Eagleton's take on atheism. He found thoroughgoing atheism impossible to sustain and the subject ends up covertly worshipping something, say the self. It didn't deconvert me at the time, but it helped open me up to religiosity.

Who says atheism is important? The only ones who seem to feel it is important are the self-righteous religions proselytizers because it challenges their dogma.

so hope is the sole reason to believe in God? Surely not.

you might start adding this to your posts

Not that I’m an atheist - It’s pretty effective at combating persecution, corruption and sectarian violence. All byproducts of Abrahamic religions

It’s not our fault that god is so unconvincing. You would figure, he could do a better job.

"Someday every knee will bow", Dicktatorship anyone? 🤮

Atheism is sometimes a natural inclination to the execesses of fear-based religiosity and spiritual abuse.

It's nuanced. Not black and white.

Atheists are soulless npcs

Why are you so pathetically desperate to convince everyone that your particular version of God is real? You have been told time and again that the way to convince us is with evidence, yet you provide none, choosing instead to insult anyone who questions your narrative. If it turns out that God is real, and that he is the endlessly loving being you claim him to be, would he approve of your behavior?

Still waiting for you to prove God is real.

I’ll never understand why people enjoy posting about religion so much on here, SMH 🤦🏾‍♂️