Why Is Atheism So Important?

@newjaninev2 Where do you think those traits come from? What are you basing them on?

@GodSpeed63 As social animals, we evolved those traits as they promote survival of the group.

@LeopoldBloom
That's not answering my question. I'm looking to see if you know the exact place from which those traits came from in order for man to recognize them.

@GodSpeed63 They're 'traits' because we see them as such. They're a group of human behaviours that humans arbitrarily delineate. They simply don't exist outside of humanity's perceptions and prejudices. There's nowhere for them to 'come from', and they have no seprate existence outside of human invention

@newjaninev2
How do you know? What's the basis for your conclusion?

@GodSpeed63 That's a silly question. You might as well ask why someone has brown eyes. Genetic variation allows for a range of traits. What we refer to as "cooperation" could be described as the individual giving up a portion of his personal freedom for the good of the group. Maybe I don't want to say "excuse me" when I need to walk past someone. It would be faster and easier to just barrel right past and knock them out of the way. But if everyone did that, we'd waste a lot of energy fighting with each other. Things work more smoothly if people are polite to each other and avoid confrontation where possible. Societies that encouraged this behavior outcompeted societies that didn't, with the result that every human society today has codes of behavior that allow people to live in close proximity to each other while minimizing friction.

How many people do you think there would be if we all lived alone by ourselves in the forest? Sociability confers a survival advantage and allows more people to be born, grow up, and reproduce.

@LeopoldBloom He's just using a stock line from his Big Book of 'How to Hide the Fact that You Can't Respond to Someone Else's Point'.
From here on he'll simply fade away and wait a while before repeating all the same nonsense elsewhere (over and over and over)

@LeopoldBloom @newjaninev2
You have nothing then. I thought so. It's something to hear skeptics talk like Christians when it come to moral standards but they lack knowledge when it comes to where the basis of that morality started at.

@GodSpeed63 Neither your JW church, nor any religion whatsoever, is the source or the arbiter of morality.

To the greatest possible extent, promote the well-being of any organism capable of otherwise suffering.

What else do you need?

@newjaninev2
Proof that God isn't real, like you keep claiming.

@GodSpeed63 I have never made such a claim.
Never.

@newjaninev2 Your indoctrinal organisation is neither the source or the arbiter of morality.

To the greatest possible extent, promote the well-being of any organism capable of otherwise suffering.

So once again... what else do you need?

@newjaninev2
Tell me right here and now, please: Is God real to you or not? Which is it?

@newjaninev2
Have you any idea that you're talking to yourself?

@GodSpeed63 define your god

@newjaninev2
Answer my question.

@GodSpeed63 1. there's no evidence that gods exist
2. there's no evidence that gods don't exist
3. in any event, there’s no compelling necessity to even postulate gods, and the postulation explains nothing (not even itself)... it merely tries to explain everything away.
4. therefore, I have no gods.

I look forward to your response

@newjaninev2
Where's your evidence to support what you claim is true?


You still haven't told me where you stand on belief in God. Do you believe or don't believe? Which is it?


Jesus told us to go into all the world and share the good news of the Gospels.


I can see by this, that you're very confused.

@GodSpeed63 It's not that difficult. If there's no objective evidence for something like the Tooth Fairy, or the Easter Bunny, or God, and there's no need to postulate any of them to explain observations, the rational position is to assume that they don't exist. Of course, it's possible that the Tooth Fairy does exist and we just haven't found any evidence for it, but the observations attributed to it (a child's tooth under their pillow that turns into a coin), can be explained in other ways that don't require an invisible, magical being.

The same holds true for God. There may very well be an invisible, eternal, omnipotent creator, but we haven't found any evidence for one (or even evidence that such a thing is possible), and there's nothing attributed to it that can't be explained in other ways. So the rational position is to not believe it exists.

It's nice that you're occupied spreading the news of the Gospels, but you're pretty arrogant if you think this is the first time we've ever heard of this. And your particular method of sharing it is very off-putting and makes your target audience less likely to accept it. But if it gives you a boost to go back to your church and report that you tried to share the Gospel with some confused and lost sinners, knock yourself out I guess.

@LeopoldBloom
What part of 'God Is An Eternal, Living Being' don't you understand?

@GodSpeed63 the part I don't understand is why you make such an unnecessary claim that explains nothing, and do so without evidence.

@newjaninev2
What I don't understand is why you make such an unnecessary claim that explains nothing, and do so without evidence. Yet, you keep making such a claim expecting science to back it up when, it is clear, science points to God instead.

@GodSpeed63
Tell me... what claim are you referring to?

@newjaninev2

That's one claim of yours.


That's another claim of yours.


Another claim of yours.


Another claim of yours.

@GodSpeed63 so are these the 'claims' to which you're referring?