Why Is Atheism So Important?

@spjennifer Hardly. You don't understand that verse. Is talking about when people finally face Christ, they will feel so sorry that they mocked him, cursed him, spit on him, beat him, laughed at him, and they will feel so bad cuz they will realize how wrong they were and that God truly is real and they will fall down and repentance before him in sorrow that they did those things. And those that ridicule those of us who follow Christ, are no better. People point fingers at us, and that's expected, but it's ironic that they don't realize how nasty their own behavior is towards others.

@LadyGrace Oh I thoroughly understand the verse, I just don't believe as you do, I don't see your gawd as a positive entity, if he even exists... If he was truly as omniscient and omnipotent as you Christians believe, then why is he a vengeful gawd who would exact his vengeance on those who don't believe in him simply because they don't? What of Buddhists and Hindus, are they evil and deserving of his vengeance because the don't believe in your gawd but they do believe in theirs? How about showing us proof that he is the "one true gawd" [i]above[/i] any others? Is a Muslim who leads a good moral life and does no harm to others deserving of your gawd's vengeance simply because they believe differently than you do?

[quote]they will feel so sorry that they mocked him, cursed him, spit on him, beat him, laughed at him, and they will feel so bad cuz they will realize how wrong they were and that God truly is real[/quote]

You can't do anything of those to something that just doesn't exist except in the minds of Christians, same as it is for Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Jews and most other Religions. I don't mock [i]him[/i], Fundamentalist Christstains (sic) like @GodSpeed63, I definitely mock them though.

@spjennifer The fact remains that you still mock God, as proven in your reply. You don't want people mocking you, yet it's okay for you to mock Christians huh? I see your double standard. If people don't believe what we say, then they don't believe what we say, no problem. But when people don't believe what God said, when he's trying to do nothing but rescue them from the consequences and condemnation that send placed on them and honest all, then they're going to have a problem. We're all in the same spiritual boat, whether we want to admit that or not. God made a plan of salvation, so none would miss heaven. But if they don't want to follow a plan that could save them, then they cannot expect to drag their sins into a holy heaven. God doesn't condemn anyone. He proved that, when He gave his own life and suffered so terribly on the cross, to save people, but if they say no thank you I want no part of you God, then what do you expect him to do? He doesn't send anyone to hell. People send themselves to hell by their poor choices. You don't believe in God at all, from your reply, and that's your prerogative, nobody has a problem with that.

@LadyGrace No, I don't mock Christians any more than I do Muslims, Jews or Hindus or Buddhists or any of the other Religions but I definitely have a problem with the Fundamentalists of any of those so-called faiths. All of them are very exclusionary, "believe in our gawd or you're going to hell ". And again, you have no proof that your gawd exists any more than do any of the other belief systems, precisely because they are all based on belief, not on reality. I have died twice now, was legally dead for 5+ minutes both times and there is no light at the end of the tunnel, nor "St Peter" waiting for us at the "pearly gates", when you die, you die, fade to black...

@spjennifer Well, that's one great thing about God. He is not exclusionary. No matter who you are, he loves [i]everyone[/i] the same. His Plan of Salvation includes everyone, not just some, and certainly not just certain religious groups, because religion has nothing whatsoever to do with salvation. John 3:16 and 17 says that absolutely anyone who comes to Christ and wants to have their sins forgiven, are welcome. There's always room of the cross for one more and he loves you just as much as he loves anyone else. He died for all, not just some. He said I will never reject you nor turn you away if you will allow me to erase your sins, as he wants everyone in Heaven with him.

I'm really sorry to hear that you died twice, but I thank God, here you are!! When Jesus was being nailed to the cross by his enemies, he looked up into heaven and you know what he said? He said, "Father [i]forgive them[/i], for they know not what they do."

Every time you look in the mirror, you're seeing one of God's beautiful creations, a real miracle.

I don't believe in any religions. Those are nothing but man-made philosophies. But I do believe in God because he is trustworthy and he not only said he loves us, but he more than proved that when he shed his blood on the cross to pay for our sins. Unlike the other belief systems in this world, I chose to believe what God said because for one, he is incapable of lying as he is sinless. And I cannot worship idols that obviously cannot hear my prayers, see my sorrows, nor speak to me. They are man-made and hollow inside. I certainly wouldn't have been worshiping the Lord all these 50 years, if he was fake or nonexistent. He is one person in this world that we can trust and the only person we can trust, and he will never abandon us like others will. He said nothing can separate us from his love. A person that would die for my sins and such a horrible death, is not somebody that is evil or out to get me. He went to any length to save any of us who will allow him to. He didn't have to do that, but he did. Our souls are so precious that we don't want to leave them to chance. If we do nothing, then our sins will keep us separated from God. We can have all the riches and fame and glory and mansions or whatever in this world, fancy cars, and all, but if we lose our own soul, what does that matter? If we lose our own soul, we've lost everything.

@spjennifer [quote]Is a Muslim who leads a good moral life and does no harm to others deserving of your gawd's vengeance simply because they believe differently than you do?[/quote]

That's the greatest question Jennifer. Let me explain it this way. Sin always brings physical and spiritual death. It's not about our performance at all. Sin is Sin, no matter what the sin is. God doesn't catagorize sin. We do. All sin separates us from God and that's why we need Jesus to forgive us, so that he can erase our sins. In the spiritual world, no sin can be forgiven except by the shedding of blood. That's how serious God takes sin. That's why God hates sin. God doesn't hate people. He hates sin with a vengeance, because it's separates us from Him and that hurts him more than anything ever could. It is our sin nature that keeps us separated from God and that needs to be remedied. That's why God's Plan of Salvation is perfect, because it works. When Jesus forgives, it's as if we had never sinned before in our whole lives. Not only does he forgive our sins, but he erases them completely and remembers them no more! Now that's really something. He came to make sure that nobody would die in their sins. Heaven is a holy place. There is no sin in heaven so naturally we can't be dragging our sins into heaven. It's that simple. Every one of us have sinned and so we just need to ask God to forgive us and he's more than willing to do that. It's not about being good and it has nothing to do with our performance. It has everything to do with erasing our sins so that we can come back into fellowship with God. People are good, yes, but that doesn't erase their sins. We can see all this evil in the world and what this tells us is why we need Jesus. Jesus loves you more than words could ever say. No one on this Earth is any smarter nor wiser than yourself, but a decision needs to be made so your beautiful self can be saved. God said, "I did not come into this world to condemn the world, but so that the world may be [u]saved[/u], through Me. We can never say one person is any better than the other because we all have sin. If we didn't acknowledge that we have sin, we would all be liars, so we just have to let Jesus save us like he wants to, that's all.

@LadyGrace Amen, sister, amen!!