Not only did birds EVOLVE from Dinosaurs, birds ARE Dinosaurs! Christians: sound off if this is NOT a problem for you! [Spirituality & Religion]
In fact, the increasingly common way to refer correctly to dinosaurs is "non-avian dinosaur" but certain sects of Christianity find this to be unacceptable for reasons they are not good at defining.
Nice paint job. So, where are the real facts and evidence? FYI, that's an Archeopteryx. It was not an intermediate between reptile and bird but was an early bird that may have gone extinct. There are at least three birds living today that have claws on there wings, the Hoatzin, a South American bird that has claws on its wings when young, the Touraco that lives in Africa, and the Ostrich. Each of these are alive today which throws out the idea that birds and reptiles are part of the same species.
I actually heard a "Dr" Gene Kim claim that Satan was a dinosaur. He connected behemoth, leviathan and gap theory creation to twist it all into place. Frankly sounds like drug use.
I have no problem with it... or should I rather say my bigger problem with it is that Birds are now considered dinosaurs but no lizard is... like crocodiles, alligators, Komodo dragon... aren't considered dinosaurs.
I've read that dinosaur are considered relatives and descendants of a certain animal. Which Crocs are basically their cousins... or something... it's just not clicking with me, why don't they count as well?
Also, it has made me wonder if dinosaur might of been a lot different than we're imagine and more like over grown birds than giant lizards.
@Pikachu Now this is just 100% theory/wild @$$ guess and wondering...
But if birds are the only one to make it past an event, and it's my understanding that birds could basically fish, or grab fish from the ocean.
I wondering if the event that took out the non-bird dinosaurs blocked the sun light and cooled it enough, where so all the plants died and followed by the plant eatting dinosaurs and then the meat eatting dinosaurs.
Basically, you had to be able to get enough food from the ocean or you die...
That or there was a shift in the poles which allowed in more solar radiation (which is what recent science believes strongly effected the neanderthals, making them hide in caves more often to stay out of the radiation which was burning or killing them) which then hurt their hunting.
In the case of the dinosaurs, the feathers might of helped with radiation... if birds come from muliple different dinosaurs.
@Viper Actually aquatic life suffered far more so i'm not sure how available aquatic food sources would be. But my understanding is that basically animals over a certain size tend not to survive massive climate related disasters because of things like available resources and shelter. This is of course a generalization and certain adaptations help as well (eg> the crocodilian ability to nearly halt their metabolic processes in times of sever resource deficiency). I don't know about radiation protection but birds like mammals are able to regulate their body temperature so that would surely give them an advantage as well.
Oh parrots and parakeets are definitely dinosaurs, they're mean tempered little fucks. I love my Indian Ringneck though, but it took him years to warm up to me.
Something else to consider with colors with birds, sometimes the males and females look different.
Just saying so that's a possibility with feathered dinosaurs as where. Though as far as I know, that's less true with the birds they claim are the closest to them.
@Viper True. Sexual dimorphism can be very challenging in extinct species and with dinosaurs especially. Is it a different species? A different sex? A different stage of development?
So if dinosaurs have been evolving for longer than us - because scientists and Atheists believe dinosaurs were before monkeys- how come they haven't evolved the ability to speak properly and invent stuff yet?
Seems like your question has been well answered but i'll jump in anyway because it's one like answering.
Intelligence, speech, tool invention: these are not goals toward which evolution is working nor inevitabilities which it will one day achieve in every species given enough time. Evolution is not about going from bad to good or good to best toward an ultimate goal. It's about what is adaptive to a given niche at a given time under given circumstances. Intelligence is one adaptive trait that has served us well but it is not the only way to succeed. Remember: in evolutionary terms, "success" means surviving long enough to reproduce and continuing the species.
So while a reptile is going to have a hard time delivering a rousing speech, a human is doing to have a hard time surviving naked in a desert. Dinosaurs didn't, over their 200 million year reign, evolve to become human-like because the adaptations they had allowed them to survive, thrive and reproduce and that is all evolution is "concerned" with.
@Jm31xxx Just to be clear, no one says that they're always evolving, lots of signs that many animals have devolved as well.
Also as one article points out, evolution doesn't always find the best solution, as often times it just uses the first solution.
It's like when you have a problem and then of how to fix the problem, the first one is not always the best solution. But with evolution, it basically goes with the first solution to a problem every time... which is not always the best solution.
Also, birds don't have opposable thumbs... that's kinda a huge thing that helped man kind over other animals (elephants, dolphins, etc) that are also smart. And some birds like Crows are quite smart.
