The Burden of Proof: Theists of SW, do you believe that an atheist has a burden of proof when it comes to their lack of belief in a god [Spirituality & Religion]
or their rejection of the claim that a god exists?
If you say no, then i agree. If you say yes, then let's discuss.
@Harriet03 [quote]When the person your debating with, has lost all reasoning. It's like administering medicine, to the dead!! 🤷♀️[/quote]
You're quite right about that which is why I try not reason with skeptics so much. Some of them have left reasoning long ago and are dead to the world.
@GodSpeed63 The authority of reality. Why do you ignore posts about the abhorrent things your god is credited with in the bible. The Christian mind just cannot accept the malevolent character of the Biblical God
An agnostic bears no burden of proof regarding his view of religion. Theists and atheists but maintain attitudes and views for which they have no concrete evidence. What both hold as proof wouldnt be allowed as evidence in traffic court.
The ability to grasp and use an analogy is at the heart of intelligence. See the Miller Analogy Test. Given that, I've a growing hunch why you might choose to avoid them.
You choose to dodge my perfectly apposite thought experiment because I've backed you into a logical corner. Since you can't counter the point I've illustrated, I've won this point. @Pikachu
Sorry but i explained why your analogy is not actually meaningful to this discussion. If you disagree then directly address that criticism. If you can't then you necessarily concede the point.
I've given you a very simple and very direct challenge. You choose to dodge that challenge because i've backed you into a logical corner. If you can't meet that challenge, I've won this point.
Yes atheists must prove Yahweh does not exist. Any of the 'evidence' atheists produce to prove evolution can also be explained by a Creator. Until you completely eliminate the possibility of Yahweh evolution is little more than bad science.
@newjaninev2 I just find him projecting as the Bible has literal magic mud in it. Jesus even used it to cure a blind man. Great stuff. Makes people and heals them.
No and anybody who says yes is not thinking through this clearly.
However, I always find it curious as to the amount of time some atheists spend on religion. Why the interest in something most atheists find so repugnant? (general question, not directed necessarily at you)
[quote] How do they know that God, Yahweh, doesn't live[/quote]
Ah but you've already made a mistake. They don't [i]know[/i] that a god doesn't exist. They simply have not seen sufficient evidence or reason to accept the claim that one does.
Here’s the thing: it is actually possible to prove that something doesn’t exist. Google it, don’t make me explain it here.
However, it is possible to assert something so vague that neither it’s existence nor its lack of existence can be proven.
Enter: the gods ... also the people who believe in them.
Entering a logical argument about the existence of a god is a fool’s errand. Circular logic from the believers is inevitable. Claims of false logical constructs from non-believers is also inevitable.
Frankly, I care not about what anyone’s spiritual beliefs are unless two factors exist: - we are both open to honest and open conversation - we treat one another respectfully
It’s remarkable what I have learned over the years taking this approach.
The ultimate proof, the ultimate miracle is right in front of you=== are you able to assimilate sense data, run comparative analysis, then utilise cognitive function to reach your own conclusions regarding the wide array of stimuli Creation is adorned with?
