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Why is there such a crappy view on homeschooling ?

I argue kids socialize less in school. Teachers bark "you aren't here to be social" at kids
Instead of just being with kids their own age they are with all age groups.
I'm not saying everyone homeschools right but 🤷
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
There is nothing inherently bad about home schooling. The problem I observe is the people that do it to keep their kids ignorant of certain subjects.
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chick95 · 26-30, F
@Dolimyte unfortunately many do. I'm exposing my kids to all of it including every religion while allowing them to pick one or none for themselves
WintaTheAngle · 41-45, M
Not all parents have the skill set required to teach children.
Really · 80-89, M
@WintaTheAngle[quote] No I wouldn’t say that. I met kids because I went to school with them, they didn’t necessarily live near me. And the school arranged activities and sports teams for us. So I wouldn’t agree with you there.[/quote] Exactly what is it that you're talking about? What did I say that you 'wouldn't' or 'wouldn't agree with there'? Maybe you thought you were talking to somebody else.
WintaTheAngle · 41-45, M
@Really a direct response to

[quote] "I argue kids socialize less in school"[/quote]

I really shouldn’t have to keep explaining all of this. I understand you’re pushing 90, but really…
Really · 80-89, M
@WintaTheAngle [quote] a direct response to
"I argue kids socialize less in school"

[/quote]That statement was made by Rosie, not by me.

I quoted her in response to your request:
[quote]<insert education joke here>[/quote]

You should review your notion that you must be smarter than someone older. It suggests something ugly about your character.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Because liberals in particular use public schools to indoctrinate. Without access to your child they cannot work on their fears.

People who think for themselves are always viewed as a threat to globalists.

In the liberal playbook, they freeze unwanted behavior. Then denigrate and ridicule it. This is the most common attack.

Don't be swayed. You are doing the right thing by taking your child away from them.
chick95 · 26-30, F
@MasterLee the last straw for me was a child my daughter's age covering herself in a friends ..... To play dead so she wouldn't get 🔫. My kids will be home and safe with me.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@chick95 yes gun free zones are slaughter houses
chick95 · 26-30, F
@MasterLee yasssss
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chick95 · 26-30, F
@jshm2 that's how it used to be. My kids play sports through the public school system, they are in 2 co ops, a nature club, book club, lego club, performing arts club, 2 of them are taking lessons to learn trick riding on horses. They also read a grade level ahead of their public schooled peers. We spend the summers at parks, splash pads, hiking.
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chick95 · 26-30, F
@jshm2 😂😂😂😂 you aren't honestly uneducated enough in the subject to think homeschoolers stay at home and don't participate in local children's groups. Not to mention all of their clubs are part of a homeschool co op... Oh and they go to a homeschoolers class for zoology taught by a keeper at our local zoo.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
It's banned in Germany and I have an idea why. Fear of indoctrination from extremist groups, creating a state within a state...as if they haven't had enough of these problems already.
chick95 · 26-30, F
@eMortal also we aren't religious and the socialization is not compatible today to when we were children l. My kids are able to socialize more than I was ever allowed in school
eMortal · M
@chick95 I was just trying to have a critical view on this.
I applaud your commitment but like any teacher, always keep yourself and your methods in check.
chick95 · 26-30, F
@eMortal oh I absolutely do. I try my damnedest to make sure they have the best education I can offer. We travel as well to give very hands on experiences
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
I think only because it is popularly associated with religious dogma. My eldest niece is on the autism spectrum and elements of homeschooling have been important to ensure she continues in education. I think it can work well, but I wouldn't like to remove a child from school completely. It's an important part of growing up and gaining some independence.
chick95 · 26-30, F
@SunshineGirl my children are homeschooled and I work independent skills by doing clubs and sports and classes around the community. I back out and let them have their time there. We also are not religious homeschoolers
When I went to high school, I took AP calculus and AP physics, and I did well enough that I placed out of two semesters of each in college. I don't think many parents are prepared to teach these subjects. Are you??

Plot twist: some of my socialization was doing homework together with my friends; giving each other hints on how to approach the hard problems. Sometimes the only hint was "there's an easy way to solve that if you look for it!"
chick95 · 26-30, F
@ElwoodBlues that's why more people need to utilize the online programs available.
@chick95 Some online programs are great, but they can't mark individual homework problems and correct specific misunderstandings.

In college I took differential equations in a giant lecture hall with hundreds of kids. The lectures were great, but more important were the problem sessions with a dozen or so kids each. We could ask the instructor (who was not the lecturer) specific questions about specific problems. It's best to nip misunderstandings in the bud and that often can't be done by a distant lecturer.
chick95 · 26-30, F
@ElwoodBlues I feel that there are tutoring sessions you can use for one on one too. Where things are graded by the tutor
Government funded media driven stigmata..
Don’t want theirnext Gen if voters thinking outside the common core woke climate curriculum
chick95 · 26-30, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout I mean I'm "woke as you say and still homeschool. But I'm much more libertarian.
@chick95 my only problem is the lack of peers.
Large groups of their own age ppl to mingle and hone social /ppl skillz..

Otherwise the standard is way higher.
Because the teachers (parents ) actually care and not just baby sit like public school teachers
chick95 · 26-30, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout the last time I was in a room with all kids my same age was school. I work hard to ensure my kids are in a wide range of clubs and participate in public school sports as well for that exact reason
Teachers used to be like, scientific or something. They'd compare the standardized test results from lots of different kids, and try to compare the results of different teaching methods.
American people put a stop to that. No children will ever be taught in ways that we might think are effective. Effective means exactly that. My country kills what is effective so it can be the best - the best left standing.
Feel free to teach children according to your personal wishes. It's your freedom!
Osogris · 56-60, M
Three of my five siblings homeschooled their kids, and they are some of the smartest and most well adjusted in successful young people that I know
My wife and I homeschool their daughters through the third grade and then they went to public school but they always had a better vocabulary then all the other kids and they would respectfully debate teachers on many topics.
They both graduated at the age of 16.
The benefits of homeschooling, downright far away anything the public school system can provide
The reason why it has a bad reputation is because the system doesn’t want you to educate your kids.
They want to indoctrinate your kids and they are spiteful.
I’m using voice to text and not everything comes through clearly
Osogris · 56-60, M
@chick95
Excellent
You’re going to give your kids a step up in life. The natural leadership that some homeschooled kids have seems to astound teachers and bosses
chick95 · 26-30, F
@Osogris we also plan to get an RV once we have farm employees. They'll be actually seeing and touching natural wonders and manmade to learn them fuck the textbook
Osogris · 56-60, M
@chick95
Excellent.
Snuffy1957 · 61-69, M
That only comes from Crappy teachers in crappy public schools
@chick95 In the religious homeschooling community, that's all too common, my older brother and sil included, two of my nieces and nephew are slow witted when it comes to socializing outside of family and church.
chick95 · 26-30, F
@NativePortlander1970 and that's why I homeschool secularly
@chick95 The way it should be
eMortal · M
Homeschooling is child abuse.
chick95 · 26-30, F
@MasterLee yes they are lol
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@chick95 by this we can not really tell if they are educated or simply were intimidated by their teachers. I think a really good psychiatrist could prescribe something to help them.
chick95 · 26-30, F
@eMortal for one I do not use fear at all to teach my children. They love learning and "mom what are we doing today " is excitedly asked every single day. Their father is a trained teacher and sits with me quarterly to help me plan their lessons. You claim I have no idea how they will act in college but have absolutely no idea what their education is like. They attend 4 classes weekly that are each an HR long and sit through them just fine. They will also when they hit high school be doing penn foster online. Which is a online homeschool (accredited and taught by teachers) curriculum where they will receive their diploma. Which prepares them for online college. They will also at the age of 13 be handed a car and a tiny home frame that they will be building from the ground up with their father so they have the skills to join any trade or at least have the knowledge. On top of everything else I have said they attend farmers markets with me and sell products, which teaches them not only money handling but also gives them the skills to work customer service and yes they are paid to do so and enjoy having the $. Oh and they are in multiple clubs..... And a grade ahead in reading and math....
Osogris · 56-60, M
They are also bilingual and have traveled to Europe a few times and South America maybe 10 times.
Our daughters are very well adjusted and have a good handle on politics as well for their age
chick95 · 26-30, F
@Osogris I hope to visit France again with the children and maybe do a cruise
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
There's not for us conservatives/ MAGA guys. As a matter of fact I would say the best teacher in this world would be your parents
@TheRascallyOne Um, you never met my paternal dead uncle, he thought rush limbaugh was god
chick95 · 26-30, F
@TheRascallyOne I'm not conservative but definitely agree parents are the best teachers
Really · 80-89, M
I was home pre-schooled; reading & writing at home, age 4; then went to an 'ordinary' (Scottish) public school. The early start actually had its disadvantages. Everything seemed way too easy - for a while!
chick95 · 26-30, F
@Really math, and reading. They also have way more knowledge of science than most kids their ages. Plus after that little girl covered herself in her friends..... To play dead for a shooter ..... No thanks
Really · 80-89, M
@chick95 I think you're right to be scared about school shootings. Glad I don't live in your country.
chick95 · 26-30, F
@Really i wish I didn't sometimes
Really · 80-89, M
Too many people on here who think they're qualified to declare what's best for every one else.
RoxClymer · 41-45, M
because of the total lack of social skills kids from My era ended up with.

current era homeschooling is 5x better than than public schools, in many ways
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Basically, because not everyone’s qualified to teach. And this is true among folks trained to do the job, so for someone who (for example) barely made it through school him or herself to want to homeschool ? Their kids are at a disadvantage (imho). Plus, the reasons some people state for homeschooling can be questionable—not wanting their kids "exposed" to children or teachers of different races, religions, or from LGBT homes. Again, unless the kids are to live insular lives, they’re at a disadvantage without the chance to meet and interact with different types of people. Don’t they still have recess and breaks at schools ? 🤔
chick95 · 26-30, F
@bijouxbroussard some but usually they only have those times with kids their age not all age groups. Even not well educated parents can seek personal tutors and homeschool.
@chick95 Primary schools teach kindergarten through 6th grade (ages 5 through 11, generally). Parents who don’t homeschool also seek personal tutors for their children. When I was in high school, I often tutored younger children.
chick95 · 26-30, F
@bijouxbroussard not like that type of tutor. I mean you can have a personal tutor teach an entire topic for you if need be
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
People I know who were home schooled were ahead of others their age.
Really · 80-89, M
Were you schooled by English speakers?
chick95 · 26-30, F
@Really yes
Because too many parents do not educate their children properly, instead they are too often indoctrinated with extremist ideology, usually uber religious.
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@TheMountainMan You mean... like British schools indoctrinate children into CofE???

Better to entrust the indoctrination of your children to the state than to do it yourself, eh???
chick95 · 26-30, F
@TheMountainMan I agree I'm completely secularly teaching my kids. They will pick their own path when they are old enough to decide on something that large

 
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