did you hear that Cleopatra was black

When people talk about Cleopatra, they generally mean Cleopatra VII. It's important to understand this because, in the Ptolemaic dynasty, all of the kings (pharaohs ?) were named Ptolemy and all of the queens were named either Cleopatra, Arsinoe or Berenice.

In terms of the racial appearance of Cleopatra VII, there is every likelihood that she would have looked very similar to Adele James, the actress portraying her in the new Netflix series. Maybe, given her (ie the actual Cleopatra VII) Hellenic ancestry, a slightly lighter skin tone. But, in my not so humble opinion, pretty accurate casting.

Quite frankly, this Egyptian "lawyer" is talking out of his rear end!

Netflix presents a Donald trump biography..

Who gives a shit?

She definitely wasn't Arab, which modern Egyptians are, so that lawsuit is pretty hilarious. Who cares what actress a Netflix show chooses?

Yes, and there are plenty of academic books written about it. The Egyptian lawsuit states though that “most of what Netflix platform displays do not conform to Islamic and societal values." So no, it isn't about the issue of Cleopatra being black at all but keeping her good enough for today's norm set by certain people in power there. Somehow some think that by her staying pure white (because of being of Macedonian descent) is somewhat reassuring. Oh right, all that marrying into the family will keep one white, etc. No, she wasn't white like Elizabeth Taylor because being Macedonian in the first place didn't mean that at all. And no blond hair and blue eyes for sure.

In short, no, it's not about "rewriting history". And there were plenty of white slaves in America too at one time. There were in fact at one moment of time more white slaves than black. Often they were people who wrote themselves away into slavery. Of course, the plantage slaves in the South were in general always black for obvious reasons that the white slaves near to never could do the work to be done there on the plantation. The same happened in The Caribbean or South America. And, of course, enslavement of Europeans was in general banned in the early 19th century, while enslavement of other groups was permitted. Even after several measures to ban slavery in the late 19th century, the practice itself around the world was continued largely unabated way into the early 20th century.

One example to illustrate why Egypte knows already that Cleopatra could be black and doesn't even care about it would be its former president Anwar Sadat. He was and is Egyptian.

This is a spurious and silly argument, because nobody knows for sure.

At least 25% of her ancestry was Macedonian and Persian (Greek and Iranian).

However, there are two major missing elements. I believe the ethnicity of her mother and grandmother are unknown.

Egypt was a nation of merchants who were in contact with African nations and the traffic and commerce went both ways.

So she could have been mixed race or lily white or somewhere in between. The reason we think of her as white is because hollywood told us so with Liz Taylor.

I for one do not care, not even a little. Do the movies that featured white actors as Native Americans make you this annoyed?

Source: knowledgesnacks.com

The historical Cleopatra may very well have been black. We don't know though, because skin color was irrelevant at that time.

[quote]erase their history.[/quote]

Why do you rightwing soy-boys get soooooooooooooo upset by these casting decisions? Why are few black hobbits and fremen such a threat to your sense of identity?

[i]Grrrrrrrrrrr! Starbuck should be a dude and all these social justice NAZIIs are determined to ruin shit.[/i]

To write a story with the only main protagonists as white men because it's concentrating on 'just storytelling' is [i]also [/i]based on political assumptions.

All I know is that many Egyptians have a darker skin tone than many people from Middle East . Maybe they were darker around the time Cleopatra lived which would make them black skin tone.

And here’s an Egyptian actor, he definitely has a dark skintone which some people consider black. [image deleted]

Hulu should do just the opposite... 😅

Oh for fuck sake 🤦‍♀️ jeez they really are trying to [b]push the black narrative and change things[/b] maybe to [b]divide people again..[/b]


Who are these so called writers.





Anyways some people sadly do not do their own research and or look through history. White people have also been slaves and look at it from [b]when we are born: you go to primary school followed by High school later its off to college/uni or instead a job and when finished college/uni a job[/b] in the end you grow old and [b]hit the bucket (die)[/b]




We learn things that [b]THEY want us to know/follow/believe[/b] and if you think for yourself and or go against the narrative such as in 2020 and following years well they [b]make you look like that bad/evil one where the evil ones seems to get away with it..[/b]




Edit: Glad I never made an account on that and don't plan to same with other things e.g. Disney as they went woke and have such things aswell.

It's fine as long as white people can play black people

Oh right...they can't 🙄

You need a hobby. Too much free time is not a good thing for you.

She was a Greek from the Ptolemy family. No blacker than Socrates.

it's wild how the word "white washing" exists but leftists literally try to wrongfully rewrite history and make all these false exclamations about characters in history being black. Next they will say ghengis Kahn was black lmao. and then the media instead of making NEW movies for african americans to star in they just replace the white characters.

Grrrrrrrrrr!

Next, these woke elitists will rewrite history with Jesus as an arab.

#IdentityCrisis.

how can a Netflix series “ erase” the history of an entire country? Lmao

What does it matter? Colour of her skin is irrelevant. She was a ruler. A leader. A woman who used her wiles and her ways to be a conqueror. Focus on what matters.

@helenS [quote]The historical Cleopatra may very well have been black. We don't know though, because skin color was irrelevant at that time.[/quote]

Have you forgotten about those Blacks in the Bible?

Song of Solomon 1:5-6 (KJV) = "5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept."

Jeremiah 13:23 (ERV) = "A black man cannot change the color of his skin, and a leopard cannot change its spots. In the same way, Jerusalem, you cannot change and do good. You always do bad things."

Everything is fine as long as the ones doing the complaining and filing the law suits are actually real Egyptians of Egyptian decent and blood lines, and are not Arabs who make up the majority of Egypt's population now.

This is a partial gallary of actresses that have portrayed cleopatra.
Please mark the ones that you possess faux outrage for.
Then...don't watch those movies.

There...fixed it for you.

Cancel culture in action

My understanding is she was one of the Ptolemy descendants, from Macedonia, so i don't think she would have been black

Next Helen of Troy will be black too !🤔

Julius cesar, Alexander the Great, Plato, Cicero, Ragnar, The Yellow Emperor...all black all black they were at the time. The evil white man lied to you all along.

I'm going to sue the US military for desecrating my ancestors and their fallen by stealing "The Flowers o' the Forest" and having the audacity to play it on the bagpipes while wearing pseudo-highland dress. Some of them don't even have red hair !!

Hahahaha.

So they enslaved themselves in Egypt ? That doesn’t reflect too well on their history .

Yes I read many years ago that she was black. So what? She looks like president Joe Biden now.

Racist liberals: i can see some egyptians who look tanned, that means egypt is black!

🥴

Ugh...its from Jada Plinket-Smith studios.
Anything to shine light on herself.🙄

This isnt a "black" thing, this is a "Jada" thing.

How does this "erase history"? This is theatre, a medium of entertainment, not a serious attempt to establish objective historical fact. Shockingly enough, dark skinned people did and do live in Egypt, so this is actually an interesting and thought-provoking casting decision. Which I am sure was what was intended 🙂

Blsckwashing is in and greatly encouraged

we know a lot about her. Lots really
and she was the 7th of that name.
a member of the family of Ptolemy , she was mostly
Macedonian.

there were INDEED periods of Black leadership in africa

but that was centuries before her era

can you link that article? about netflix lawsuit

If you look at the King Tut mask, it’s obvious he was Black. So was Anwar Sadat. But yeah, Cleopatra must have been white. Probably had Viking ancestors.

I don't actually care. She lived so long ago that no one actually knows for sure, and anyone who says they do is lying. Netflix can do what the hell it likes.

Have they done one where Geo Washington was a BLM black yet?

Some say that Jesus was black so you never know really. But some say Mary cuckolded Joseph

I just read an article in either the Smithsonian or National Geographic. They don't even know where she is buried. She is of Greek descent. I doubt she is black.

She may even have been a redhead. No joke.

Elizabeth Taylor is Cleopatra ,an English woman

Did you hear that Muhammad Ali was black?