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did you hear that Cleopatra was black

yep that is right, Netflix confirmed it as did the writers of the series. So it must be true.

Just ignore the lawsuit happing against Netflix by some Egyptians for trying to erase their history.
Surely it wouldnt be Hollywood trying to rewrite history to put black people at the center of everything instead of just making compelling shows on Black history that does not include slavery
Race swapping is just far easier
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val70 · 51-55
Yes, and there are plenty of academic books written about it. The Egyptian lawsuit states though that “most of what Netflix platform displays do not conform to Islamic and societal values." So no, it isn't about the issue of Cleopatra being black at all but keeping her good enough for today's norm set by certain people in power there. Somehow some think that by her staying pure white (because of being of Macedonian descent) is somewhat reassuring. Oh right, all that marrying into the family will keep one white, etc. No, she wasn't white like Elizabeth Taylor because being Macedonian in the first place didn't mean that at all. And no blond hair and blue eyes for sure.

In short, no, it's not about "rewriting history". And there were plenty of white slaves in America too at one time. There were in fact at one moment of time more white slaves than black. Often they were people who wrote themselves away into slavery. Of course, the plantage slaves in the South were in general always black for obvious reasons that the white slaves near to never could do the work to be done there on the plantation. The same happened in The Caribbean or South America. And, of course, enslavement of Europeans was in general banned in the early 19th century, while enslavement of other groups was permitted. Even after several measures to ban slavery in the late 19th century, the practice itself around the world was continued largely unabated way into the early 20th century.

One example to illustrate why Egypte knows already that Cleopatra could be black and doesn't even care about it would be its former president Anwar Sadat. He was and is Egyptian.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@val70 so experts and all that have been wrong this whole time and she was black? wow so glad you cleared that up. The lawsuit is not just about islmic and societal views.

Netflix are constantly trying to rewrite history and race swap historical figures.
A former president being of certain race proves jack shit btw
val70 · 51-55
@Torsten Torsten, we've been over some other issue this way of yours already in the past. I'm ready to give a book long list of sources to back my claims up, but I'm not going into this yes and no thing of yours. Oh yes, the book of essays is in Dutch. Sorry!

SW-User
@val70 if she was Greek, how could she be black? Did she have African heritage?
val70 · 51-55
@SW-User Like I told your friend, there are plenty of academic studies to read out there :-)
Torsten · 36-40, M
@val70 again so experts and historians are wrong because you found a Dutch book saying otherwise? cool haha
val70 · 51-55
@Torsten You have a good life, Torsten. You haven't got a clue
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@val70 [quote]In short, no, it's not about "rewriting history". And there were plenty of white slaves in America too at one time. There were in fact at one moment of time more white slaves than black. Often they were people who wrote themselves away into slavery. Of course, the plantage slaves in the South were in general always black for obvious reasons that the white slaves near to never could do the work to be done there on the plantation. The same happened in The Caribbean or South America.[/quote]

If there were so many White slaves in America were they ever sold at slave auctions and advertized as being White slaves like Black slaves were? I have never seen any ads for them. Maybe you can educate us by posting some links to ads for White slaves in America.
val70 · 51-55
@Diotrephes In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, more than 300,000 white people were shipped to America as slaves. Urchins were swept up from London's streets to labor in the tobacco fields, where life expectancy was no more than two years. Brothels were raided to provide “breeders” for Virginia


Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@val70 Thanks for the info. That is the only ad I have seen about selling Whites at auction in America. Notice the date is May 12, 1774, which is before America became an indepedent country. I doubt if you will find such an ad after that date.
val70 · 51-55
@Diotrephes America is America is America. Now don't bother me any more. I showed you enough
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@val70 I thought you would appreciate the opportunity to share your treasure trove of knowledge.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@val70 Thank you for the additional information.