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originnone · 61-69, M
@Skinnygingesarah Yeah, but the rest of you rocks.
Skinnygingesarah · 36-40, F
@originnone what
originnone · 61-69, M
@Skinnygingesarah What I was trying to say is that with the exception of the government and monarchy, you have a wonderful country that we admire.
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@originnone education means nothing to him…
Particularly anything up east.
Particularly anything up east.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@originnone Yale is up to their eyeballs in discrimination and they are teaching anti America.
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@helenS hey! I am not gentleman. I also perform live.. I am frequently in front of an audience responding to posts…🤪
Budwick · 70-79, M
Richard65 · M
I can't say I'm proud, exactly. The UK has achieved some amazing things but is also guilty of appalling historical acts (see England in particular). When you criticise your country it's often misconstrued as hating it, when in fact you love your country but just want it to be better. People often fail to recognise that the good aspects of any nation were brought about by people who wanted it to be better than it was, so they pushed for improvement or to change something significantly, often coming up against furious resistance. It's not hate to want to change your country, it's love.
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originnone · 61-69, M
@TheFlippantSide Excellent explanation. It makes sense the way you put it.
SilkandLace2 · 46-50, M
@TheFlippantSide well said dear, @originnone
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
originnone · 61-69, M
@Perry1968 I agree. If I lived in many countries, I'd have asked "are you afraid."
Unquestioned · 70-79, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Why ''Once upon a time''? I am interested to know, and I'm not trying to be clever with this question.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
@Unquestioned Australia is no longer what it once was or how I remember it.
Go on ahead and just call us South Chynah
Go on ahead and just call us South Chynah
Unquestioned · 70-79, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout I understand what you're saying. The way I look at being proud of my country is: Not what our f--ked up governments have done or are doing now. Not what our billionaires and multi million dollar companies are doing eg selling out our country. I find my pride in what the people of my country have done or are doing. As with Australia, the inventions, such as The Hills Hoist, The victor Mower, Black Box Flight Recorder and many more. Also the every day people, the culture and more.
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DunningKruger · 61-69, M
I don't believe that we can truly be proud of things we had no choice about. I was born here, so I didn't have a choice about it, so I can't say that I'm proud to be a citizen. Someone who immigrated here, went through the difficult process of leaving their home, coming here, navigating the difficult path of becoming a citizen here, that person has a right to be proud.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@DunningKruger we are voters, so we choose those who make the decisions. Thus, we can be proud, if what the government does is good. If we have a compassionate, look video ng country, we have succeeded.
DunningKruger · 61-69, M
@samueltyler2 That isn't the same thing as being proud to be a member of your country. Yes, we can be proud to be a participating member of our democracy, because that requires action and effort from us. Just being a citizen, or even just a resident, isn't a choice and requires no effort if we're born here.
originnone · 61-69, M
@TheDeathOfOzymandiaz I'm proud to be my mother's son....
@originnone why?
SilkandLace2 · 46-50, M
originnone · 61-69, M
@SilkandLace2 Good for you!
SilkandLace2 · 46-50, M
@originnone thanks, i just try to remember the good days most of the time....
originnone · 61-69, M
@Wiseacre That is kind of cool really.
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originnone · 61-69, M
@bijouxbroussard I don't know how you can "not" be ashamed. If I were black, I'd probably be some kind of militant.....and why am I not anyway.....don't ask....
bijouxbroussard · F
@originnone Shame would come from something I’d done wrong. I was born here solely by chance. And I come from a family of humble origins who has still done relatively well. We’re certainly considered militant by conservatives.
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Spoiledbrat · F
I was born and raised in California.
Spoiledbrat · F
@Spoiledbrat Black people do and can move up.
Spoiledbrat · F
I'm starting to feel suppressed simply for being white. There are all kinds of programs to help people who are in poverty. One can go to college on the pell grant. It's been limited now but it's there. But I get the systematic thing. The system favored white people. It was a white country and or the people in power were white. Even woman were held back and I'm a woman but I don't think about it or feel anyone owes me anything. The past is the past. But I guess black people had it worse. Some Americans are still racist. @samueltyler2
originnone · 61-69, M
@Spoiledbrat Women are suppressed and imho superior to men in 21st century civilization. I could give you a dozen reasons, but it's what I believe. As far as women or blacks, all you have to do is look around the board room to see most are still white males. BUT...the reasons many white people object to the term "white privilege" is that we wonder where our privilege is. We look at the Donald Trumps and Mark Cubans and can't relate to them any more than black people can. So it's hard for us to see that black people are still way behind us regarding opportunities. That's my opinion.
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CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
Absolutely not.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@SW-User We've always been historically behind. So of course they fared better. They're culturally forward, I would say. But in my opinion not splitting wouldn't guarantee anything. Maybe it would end up with even stronger centralization in West and the overall neglect of the East.
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@CrazyMusicLover I suppose I am naive to hope for the entire species to finish evolving so we no longer need multiple states on one planet, when there are millennia of empirical data making this seem very improbable
originnone · 61-69, M
@SW-User Humans are pretty deplorable. I'm not sure why we want to save humanity so badly.
WandererTony · 56-60, M
TurtleEclipseOfTheHeart · 22-25, F
helenS · 36-40, F
No, not really. In fact I'm a child of many countries – my family is international.
Torsten · 36-40, M
im not a member of my country. I am a long term guest in the country i now reside in
Only in a non serious way. Like supporting Australia in a sporting event or something
IamCuriousBabe · 51-55, F
A bit, but generally happier to be here than anywhere else.
MrEagle · 41-45, M
This sounds like a political question.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
I'm English but it means nothing to me.
I had no say in where i was born.
I had no say in where i was born.
revenant · F
I do not know. Not the way it is going anyway.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Mostly, yes.
DownTheStreet · 56-60, M
Usa - yea
I am not...
Bleak · 36-40, F
Yeah
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Tres13 · 51-55, M
Am a Patriot missile
Heartlander · 80-89, M
Yes, and lucky to have been isolated or shielded from the ugly side of the worse of this country and the world in general.
Want to make this a better world? Make the good parts bigger and the bad parts smaller. Move the border between the good parts and the shithole parts. Let's not turn it all into a shithole. Shared misery isn't progress. it's digress.
Want to make this a better world? Make the good parts bigger and the bad parts smaller. Move the border between the good parts and the shithole parts. Let's not turn it all into a shithole. Shared misery isn't progress. it's digress.
DDonde · 31-35, M
Yes
istillhaveanameitsrick · 56-60, M
I love my country but I have come to hate the people who live here. They are a bunch of weak minded sheep following their chosen political parties marching orders no matter what they are.
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A lot of my country's history (and present) are pretty shameful, it seems like there is more to be embarrassed about than to celebrate (in the celebrate column would be things like jazz and abstract expressionism, yet these things were created in a country that arguably does not even have a right to exist in the first place, having just stolen land from people already here and forced them to relocate in multiple stages/periods of genocide)
I really don't think I even understand the whole concept of being proud of something though, particularly things done by others and/or things you had no choice in ... what even is "pride"?
I really don't think I even understand the whole concept of being proud of something though, particularly things done by others and/or things you had no choice in ... what even is "pride"?
originnone · 61-69, M
Really · 80-89, M
@forgotit I came to this country by deliberate choice and I'm glad That I did. I don't see any value in pride. Both my countries have had features, systems & cultural norms I could value and others I do not.
You sound like you'll be a dick wherever you go.
You sound like you'll be a dick wherever you go.
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