Are you proud to be a member of your country?

@SW-User You can be proud of something that happened by chance. I'm proud to be the son of my father....

@originnone lucky

@originnone interesting point.. I just don’t see life that way at all.

@SW-User I get what you're saying.

@SW-User Nothing happens by chance. We are all victims of our karma. As you sow so shall you reap.

@Kwek00 Maybe pride has no value. I only asked whether you have it and said in some cases I do; I make no claim as to its worth.

@originnone Fair enough... but once you figured out that there is no rational reason to be pridefull, then I think it becomes irrational to indulge in it when there is no reason too. That's why I don't see a reason to be pridefull by something that happened by chance even if you are able too do so.

@Kwek00 Well, I'm not proud of my degrees, professional licenses, work experience, athletic achievements.....IDK....those are just things I did....that's the stuff I think is meaningless. I'm really proud of my children and my parents; I used to be proud of my country.....I'm not arguing with you....just trying to figure it out....

@SW-User @SW-User [quote]Where we were born is chance.[/quote]

Your country feels like it drew the short straw.

@originnone [quote] I used to be proud of my country...[/quote]

Learn the truth.
You've been indoctrinated.
Takes a few classes online - free - hillsdale.com -

@Budwick LOL...I've had a few classes here and there!

@originnone Try a few more teaching the truth.

@Budwick Well, given that most of mine were science based, it's hard to argue that what I was taught and taught myself was true....

@hunkalove we have no control of our conception or birth.

@originnone Well, you you picked some sour grapes about America some where.
Try getting some first class teaching on the subject.

@SW-User very true. If I'd had a choice, I'd have cancelled mine.

@Budwick My African American history class was from Yale....just sayin'

@Budwick when was in God we trust put on American currency?

Or one nation under god in the pledge?

@originnone education means nothing to him…
Particularly anything up east.

@originnone Yale is up to their eyeballs in discrimination and they are teaching anti America.

@Budwick @originnone

No surprise