Says the guy using a device created by science to post on the internet (also created by science) about his love of an imaginary sky fairy 💁‍♂️

It’s not worship, prayers are not offered to chemical elements, we don’t sing songs about physics, there are no people burned alive for publishing new theories.

150 years ago if a cut got infected you risked death. Nowadays it's a minor issue.

150 years ago if you were lucky enough to own your own small farm, you faced a life of backbreaking labor with little time to appreciate the finer things in life, and starvation stalked with every bad winter. Nowadays we all have time to read and study and improve our minds.

We all love motherhood. Isn't it great how many more women survive childbirth to become mothers and raise their children with love?

150 years ago, one third of all babies died before the age of 5. Nowadays it's about half a percent (5.6 per 1000)

Religion didn't make these improvements. Philosophy didn't make these improvements. Politics didn't make these improvements. Science did.

Life expectancy 150 years ago was 42 years. Now it's 78. Thank you, scientists and engineers, for those extra 36 years and all the free time to read and travel and study and think.

I don't "worship" science. But it's 100 percent clear to me what has vastly improved my life and the lives of billions of others on this planet. So I have a great appreciation for science.

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Yeah, I know, you're gonna suggest Isaac Newton was a gift from God. But Europe was Christian by the end of the 7th century. Why would God wait 900 years to give us calculus and magnifying lenses?? Why would God wait 1200 years to give us the germ theory of disease?? Why would God leave His people to suffer for an extra 1200 years after Christianity had spread??? Sorry, the timeline refutes that suggestion.

How? Very easily.

Nobody is "worshipping science." Having respect for scientific knowledge is not "worship," at least, not any kind of worship that would be recognized by most religious people.

You're stuck on the "everybody deifies something" theory, but it's a category error.

Yes, science [i]is[/i] a tool. Applying that tool, we see that your comparison is not valid. Any fish can leap out of the water and see that there is another world above the surface. Where is this afterlife of which you speak? Where is your scientific evidence that it is the Christian afterlife, rather than the Islamic afterlife? Perhaps we are reincarnated as the Hindus believe. Can you, ultimately, prove that we are not?

When did scientists ever claim that science solves everything?

We will never solve everything. We, however, will continue to evolve our scientific knowledge.

[quote]If I had said, twenty years ago, I talked with a man the other day one hundred miles away, just as though he were ten feet distant from me, it would have been called a miracle, and why? Simply because there was then no law of acoustics known, by which the human voice could be transmitted one hundred miles; but, within time, such a law has been discovered, and our voices may be heard by our friends one hundred, or one thousand miles away, and it is not called a miracle.[/quote]

Of course it's not called a miracle. It's called a telephone, and they have been around for more than 100 years. You can thank science for that.

People are brainwashed/programmed to worship science or the idea of science and to view it as infallible so that they'll blindly accept any propaganda that's science-related. Real science is about questioning not blind belief and herd mentality. Science has been corrupted/hijacked and turned into a cult/religion.

Science is 100% neutral and the methodology works. Fully documented. Nobody says it’s anyway perfect, hat is reserved for all powerful mythological deities. Not long ago, I read a book about the history of science through it's tools. Starting from the first which was fire. That lead to pottery and a byproduct called glass. Our species has existed for two hundred thousand years or so. When we began to use metal, it took only five thousand years to reach the Moon.

If there is anything I do worship it is strong evidence. I refuse to accept magic.

Never had surgery,eh? Never been on a plane or actually reflected on the technology of the very tool you’re using for this interchange?

Science isn’t worshipped by anyone who knows anything about it. It may be looked at as almost magical by the ignorant but compared to superstitions like religions or spirituality, it is amazingly capable.

The ignorant take their silly superstitious mindset and apply it to most things they don’t understand. Plus, there’s still a lot of recreational drug use.

Plenty of Zealots for Scientism have reared their ugly heads the last few years. You can see it in the slogans. "You trust fedbook over experts" "hands, face, space" "2 weeks to flatten the curve" "its for your safety" "i wear this to protect others"

[quote] As for your point on life expectancy, but you're wrong here. Humans do not live longer. I know you don't accept this, but the ancient Biblical lifespan was 900 something years and our genetics have been declining since. Now we are at 70-100 years. It isn't only the Bible that mentions this long lifespan, though, as most cultures all around the world talk about a golden age where people lived much longer. Some cultures have the lifespan at over a thousand years. Almost all cultures discuss this golden age because it is in the collective memory of mankind, because it is true.[/quote]

Evidence not anecdotes and mythology. What were humans like physically after 100? Male and female. Adam was never a child and teen because he was never born. Same with Eve. After the first two sons, no children until Seth at 130. Was Eve infertile all that time? Seth didn’t have a son until he was 105. And so on.

Meanwhile, Cain got a wife (unnamed of course) and son Enoch. Who built a city for three.

Reads just like mythology.

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I suppose you are correct, considering that science hasn’t been able to prevent the existence of idiots like yourself. 😂

Brilliant post!

@gol979
Again. Science is a process. It has no morality. It is what is there. It’s humans that are to blame for it’s misuse. As mentioned before in other post. The same science that built the atom bomb, also powers the reactors that light up millions of homes and streets .

The universe has far too many wonders for just one god.

I can’t understand why you’re so afraid to learn something new.

[quote] How can any sane person let such a limited and ephemeral tool destroy their faith in an eternal God and a much more real world that lasts forever? What a foolish trap many have fallen into. 1 Corinthians 3:19 does say, "For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness."[/quote]
How about a practical discussion to demonstrating the value of each.
Which do you consider to produce realistic results. Modern medicine, or faith healing ? That would seem to me the best comparison of your theory. Something with proven , documented data. What do you got in numbers ?

Science doesn't 'refute' God, so to speak, but it does teach you how to think critically and apply the burden of proof, which is inherently contrary to the doctrine of religious faith. The scientific method boils down to making a claim about the world, seeking evidence for or against said claim, and assigning credibility (or lack thereof) to that claim based on said evidence. So it really shouldn't be surprising that these same science-minded people don't take it seriously when someone claims that there's some kind of invisible being out there who can't be observed in any way that's distinguishable from known natural phenomena.

What’s to understand. Science is the search for facts and truth . The exact opposite of religion and faith.