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lauranne · 22-25, F
@NortiusMaximus why not both
NortiusMaximus · M
@lauranne Just pay teachers what they're worth. In the UK, a lot of the current bunch aren't worth anything but, well qualified (min. Master's degree) good teachers, should be paid well too.
acpguy · C
@Thevy29 Pay teachers more only if they are qualified to teach the subjects they are to teach and teachers must pass rigorous tests to prove they are qualified. We are actually overpaying socialist nannies far too much to mess up our children and pass them onto higher grades without proof they have learned the subjects.
Ontheroad · M
Downsizing - I firmly believe that much smaller schools are far superior. Neighborhood schools small enough to be more like a big family where all the teachers know and have a family like investment in the children and the children feel as if the teachers care about them.
I firmly believe the school environment is as important as anything else a school can provide.
I firmly believe the school environment is as important as anything else a school can provide.
TheSirfurryanimalWales · 61-69, M
ElRengo · 70-79, M
Early one morning, a mother went in to wake up her son. "Wake up, son. It's time to go to school!"
"But why, Mom? I don't want to go."
"Give me two reasons why you don't want to go."
"Well, the kids hate me for one, and the teachers hate me, too!"
"Oh, that's no reason not to go to school. Come on now and get ready."
"Give me two reasons why I should go to school."
"Well, for one, you're 52 years old. And for another, you're the Principal!"!"
"But why, Mom? I don't want to go."
"Give me two reasons why you don't want to go."
"Well, the kids hate me for one, and the teachers hate me, too!"
"Oh, that's no reason not to go to school. Come on now and get ready."
"Give me two reasons why I should go to school."
"Well, for one, you're 52 years old. And for another, you're the Principal!"!"
NortiusMaximus · M
nobodyishome · 31-35, F
DancesWithWolves · 56-60, M
beermeplease · M
beermeplease · M
@nobodyishome that's what i said
nobodyishome · 31-35, F
@beermeplease i understand nothing
GoFish ·
@nobodyishome he means they stoped grading kids work
NeddyKelly · M
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@NeddyKelly Thankyou.
I don't know if that is a widespread problem anywhere but is one I worry about in Britain with "faith schools" (of any faith) and so-called "home-schooling".
In both cases I blame the parents, who clearly miss the primary aim of education and the intended benefactors. Or they clearly do see it but reject it.
I don't know if that is a widespread problem anywhere but is one I worry about in Britain with "faith schools" (of any faith) and so-called "home-schooling".
In both cases I blame the parents, who clearly miss the primary aim of education and the intended benefactors. Or they clearly do see it but reject it.
chrisCA · M
@NeddyKelly Which 70 genders would that be?
greensnacks · F
Picklebobble2 · 61-69, M
In senior years i would run 'your responsibilities as an adult' classes.
Your requirements and responsibilities under the law.
Money management.
How to try and resolve conflict without responding with 'childlike' thinking.
Voter registration.
Basic politics and economics.
Basic home and vehicle maintenance.
Stuff like that relevant to the adult world.
Your requirements and responsibilities under the law.
Money management.
How to try and resolve conflict without responding with 'childlike' thinking.
Voter registration.
Basic politics and economics.
Basic home and vehicle maintenance.
Stuff like that relevant to the adult world.
Aquaabyss · New
The list is too long
@Aquaabyss go on
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
•Prioritize a big enough budget that kids are actually getting an education.
•Update the textbooks to something from this decade, which falls under my first point.
•Either remove Christian talking points entirely from public education, or teach about all world religions. Under the US Constitution, there should be no in between.
•More teachers getting higher pay. Again, that falls under my first point.
•Update the sex education program to reflect reality. Anybody who doesn't like that can go hang.
•Require parents who want to homeschool their children to get a teaching degree.
•Emphasize the teaching of practical, real world skills at an early level, rather than useless facts that kids will never use. (Obligatory mention that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.)
•Update the textbooks to something from this decade, which falls under my first point.
•Either remove Christian talking points entirely from public education, or teach about all world religions. Under the US Constitution, there should be no in between.
•More teachers getting higher pay. Again, that falls under my first point.
•Update the sex education program to reflect reality. Anybody who doesn't like that can go hang.
•Require parents who want to homeschool their children to get a teaching degree.
•Emphasize the teaching of practical, real world skills at an early level, rather than useless facts that kids will never use. (Obligatory mention that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.)
alongalone · M
Boys shouldn't be ruled over by female teachers throughout grade school
meggie · F
Any bullies are sent on a course to teach them the impact of what they are doing.
HumanEarth · F
No electronic devices or internet connection allowed on property, everything goes back to textbooks and chalkboards
@Ontheroad as another great point
@Ontheroad as another great point
AngelaR80 · 46-50, F
@emiliya I work in a bank. Daily I have to explain things to "adults" that I am amazed they don't understand. And in my opinion in the last 20 years it's got worse and worse.
Things like ”You have to pay back your overdraft. The bank doesn't give you extra money merely lends it to you".
"You don't actually own your house until you finish paying the mortgage ”
Things like ”You have to pay back your overdraft. The bank doesn't give you extra money merely lends it to you".
"You don't actually own your house until you finish paying the mortgage ”
ArishMell · 70-79, M
In the UK -
Errr, more than one thing. Sorry!
End the so-called "Academy Trusts" (semi-commercial) and restore for all except the genuinely private, "Public Schools"* the original Local Education Authority managed, State system.
Ban single-sex, single-religion and boarding schools. Ban so-called "home schooling", which is as absurd as its self-contradictory term. Education is to help the child become an independant, worthwhile adult, not to massage parental egos.
Nor, in the boarding case, to provide respite-care for parents suffering from having become parents. (The school terms total over three-quarters of the year - a cruelly long separation, especially for younger, Preparatory School children.)
Be much tougher with parents who take their children out of school merely to go on holiday in term time. They are tempted to do this, although it is illegal, because the travel industry jacks air and ferry fares up during the school holidays. It's simple: if you can't afford to take your family for a fortnight abroad, holiday in your own country instead, and in the regular school holidays; whilst at the same time teaching your offspring both money sense and that the Law does apply to them.
Reduce the cost of school uniforms? I don't know how serious a problem this is, or how much it is raised by parents who feel they should not have to pay for anything; but shops should not charge more for uniform than equivalent non-uniform garments. Children's clothes are null-rated for VAT, though, which should help. (I am short enough to take advantage of this myself, for some garments!)
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*"Public Schools" - Eton, Rugby, Harrow, Gordonstoun, etc. among the leaders - are called thus because they were devised centuries ago to be open to any boys whose parents could afford the fees. Until universall eduaction was introduced in the 19C, the only alternative was teaching at home by peripatetic tutors. They were always expensive, relatively to their times; by adding to the teaching costs the accommodation and profit element, and having no State support. Although unlike the Academy Trusts the true Public Schools are run as charities, not semi-commercial enterprises.
They are still mainly boarding-schools are were originally all single-sex, but some at least do now admit day-pupils and of both sexes.
Unlike the unregulated "faith schools" and legally-questionable "home schooling", the Public Schools, "academies" and remaining LEA schools all teach the normal curricula ending in the same national examinations.
Errr, more than one thing. Sorry!
End the so-called "Academy Trusts" (semi-commercial) and restore for all except the genuinely private, "Public Schools"* the original Local Education Authority managed, State system.
Ban single-sex, single-religion and boarding schools. Ban so-called "home schooling", which is as absurd as its self-contradictory term. Education is to help the child become an independant, worthwhile adult, not to massage parental egos.
Nor, in the boarding case, to provide respite-care for parents suffering from having become parents. (The school terms total over three-quarters of the year - a cruelly long separation, especially for younger, Preparatory School children.)
Be much tougher with parents who take their children out of school merely to go on holiday in term time. They are tempted to do this, although it is illegal, because the travel industry jacks air and ferry fares up during the school holidays. It's simple: if you can't afford to take your family for a fortnight abroad, holiday in your own country instead, and in the regular school holidays; whilst at the same time teaching your offspring both money sense and that the Law does apply to them.
Reduce the cost of school uniforms? I don't know how serious a problem this is, or how much it is raised by parents who feel they should not have to pay for anything; but shops should not charge more for uniform than equivalent non-uniform garments. Children's clothes are null-rated for VAT, though, which should help. (I am short enough to take advantage of this myself, for some garments!)
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*"Public Schools" - Eton, Rugby, Harrow, Gordonstoun, etc. among the leaders - are called thus because they were devised centuries ago to be open to any boys whose parents could afford the fees. Until universall eduaction was introduced in the 19C, the only alternative was teaching at home by peripatetic tutors. They were always expensive, relatively to their times; by adding to the teaching costs the accommodation and profit element, and having no State support. Although unlike the Academy Trusts the true Public Schools are run as charities, not semi-commercial enterprises.
They are still mainly boarding-schools are were originally all single-sex, but some at least do now admit day-pupils and of both sexes.
Unlike the unregulated "faith schools" and legally-questionable "home schooling", the Public Schools, "academies" and remaining LEA schools all teach the normal curricula ending in the same national examinations.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@emiliya I do not want everyone else to be like me. Just the opposite, as I rather hope my message would show.
I want education to give children the broadest chance of employment, directly or via higher education (college or university), and broad minds generally so they can decide for themselves their own careers (as far as that's possible), religion or not, politics, social ideas, etc.
I don't really see what point you are trying to make.
I want education to give children the broadest chance of employment, directly or via higher education (college or university), and broad minds generally so they can decide for themselves their own careers (as far as that's possible), religion or not, politics, social ideas, etc.
I don't really see what point you are trying to make.
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swirlie · 31-35, F
I would make it mandatory for all Americans to attend high school until they graduated with a diploma while making political science a mandatory subject for each year during a 4 year curriculum. Maybe then Americans would learn about the consequence of voting while drunk or more importantly, not voting at all during Presidential Elections.
@DancingStarGoddess what do you think is the reason
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4meAndyou · F
I would change the administrators, so that politics and catering to WOKE local politicians was not the FOCUS of the school.
I would boot OUT ALL the teachers who "suggest" to children that they are NOT, in fact, the sex with which they were born.
I would boot OUT the teachers who consistently FAIL to teach their children MATH and READING...whose classrooms move forward grade after grade NOT knowing HOW to succeed in life.
I would ADD Civics to the curricula. However, it must be ACCURATE Civics and ACCURATE history...not the current indoctrination of students to become ignorant little Woke Social Justice Warriors.
AND I would FIRE all teachers who take the day off work and encourage their classes to come WITH them so that they can ALL attend a political protest.
I would boot OUT ALL the teachers who "suggest" to children that they are NOT, in fact, the sex with which they were born.
I would boot OUT the teachers who consistently FAIL to teach their children MATH and READING...whose classrooms move forward grade after grade NOT knowing HOW to succeed in life.
I would ADD Civics to the curricula. However, it must be ACCURATE Civics and ACCURATE history...not the current indoctrination of students to become ignorant little Woke Social Justice Warriors.
AND I would FIRE all teachers who take the day off work and encourage their classes to come WITH them so that they can ALL attend a political protest.
AdmiralPrune · 46-50, M
Bring back corporal punishment.
AdmiralPrune · 46-50, M
@NortiusMaximus Discipline
NortiusMaximus · M
@AdmiralPrune Trying to beat students into submission doesn't really work and you could wind up with a lot more dead teachers.
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acpguy · C
There is not just "one thiing" wrong with our schools.
class · F
Forget about it