Women to be Drafted into the Military

This is supposed to make me outraged ?

Haven't you got birdhouses to build ?? 🙄

eventually, yes.

but lets start with trans people first...

I bet that within a month, we'd be back to two genders...

The draft is a long process away, but once it gets to that point, it's only fair for women to be included as well in modern times.

I'm completely against the idea - not because women can't be effective soldiers and I'm all for women serving in the military, but because forcing women into combat in is a civilisation-wrecking level of decision.

Certainly, I think this applies in an all-out war situation. Peacetime national service is broadly a different kettle of fish, I think.

Men are simply more expendable - I don't care if people are going to accuse me of sexist reductionism or fantasising about an appalling Handmaid's Tale horror - women bear children and men don't, and if we are sacrificing (or just seriously risking) the way in which our society (indeed, species) perpetuates itself then really what is the point in the war in the first place?

Doubtless there is a breed of feminist that finds this very uncomfortable, but (again, without being reductionist), they tend to be the kind of person who while admirably vocal about important issues, doesn't tend to care that much about cultural perpetuation anyway, in my observation.

If a society reaches the point where women of childbearing age are being forced to fight on front lines then one might as well just issue a single bullet for everyone and save the enemy the trouble of the battle (because as a young woman you sure as hell don't want to be left alive).

This last point is why I don't think it's hypocritical to support conscription of Israeli women into the IDF. The events of October 7th (and many times before) give a good indication of what awaits them otherwise.

Politicians are living in real fear of losing their seats.
No matter how long they've been there because potential voters are vocally making it clear we're all sick to death of their posturing on the improbable while appearing to be sat on their assets unable to affect the real problems facing people.

This draft idea is being played out in Europe too and nobody's buying it here either.

For the first time in living memory those going to the ballot box in the next year have more 'buying power' than the dodgy salesmen who claim to have represented their constituents !

My guess is youll see lower voter turnouts and those elected probably not able to serve full terms.
In Europe and the USA

Ayn Rand had it right on this score, about the military draft. Yes, perhaps a bunch of spoiled brat left wingers SHOULD get pushed into some sore of military service to straighten their Nazi heads out. But it violates the Constitution. Specifically, it violates the 5 Amendment. (Putting a person in harm's way, possibly death, without due process.)

That's the CONSTITUTIONAL case against the military draft. The REAGAN case says that the draft has NEVER worked, every time it has been tried. The Military needs committed young patriots willing to travel to the ends of the earth and put their own lives on the line for America (something this country has never lacked). The WORST thing to do would be to force a bunch of idiots into that same military and infect it with their childish ignorance and bullshit.

take a women 9 months to carry a baby.
a man can put multuple babies in a women in one night.

this is why we send men to war.. theyre expendable.

Equal rights, equal fights

It would suck if they implemented another draft in the US but with the low recruitment numbers over the past few years they might have to 😕

If not mistaken The Equal Rights amendment as applicable to women did not get passed for a variety of reasons.
If that is fact then if women are against having to register for selective service
they may well have solid ground to stand on.
As far as I’m concerned this administration and alleged commander - in- chief may well be leading this country and the world to a possible third world war.

If it comes down to it, then it's only fair that women be drafted, too.

Times have moved on from WW2... though, it does pose a question as to what will happen to children who have both parents serving in the military.

It should be a requirement for every able bodied person living in America and it’s territories to preformed either militarily or civilian conservation core for minimum of four years, between the ages of 18 to 39. At end year service one would receive the same benefits that the current service members receive.

What’s wrong with that?

Israel has required both men and women to serve in the military since 1948.

Are you so unpatriotic that you don’t want what’s best for your country’s defense?

And you’re a Republican? Wow.

Send trump supporters to the front. They love their guns and military cosplay.

This vet was radicalized by the military.

I'm glad I'm too old to be drafted.

“…the upcoming military draft”? This is something these proponents espoused, “upcoming draft” or is that you using that phrase?

I posted earlier on this saying this involvement of females might get great backlash considering the Equal rights amendment as applicable to women has not been made an amendment to our constitution as of yet.

They will be starting in 2025. If Trump takes over, he'll burn that bill before it happens and end Wars.

Women can shoot a gun as well as a dude.
Also, I'm against drafts entirely for men and women.
Next question.

@PatKirby

I see you have never set foot outside your own country. Hell even in NATO countries women have been serving in front line service for decades. In some cases as far back as the era of the so called sexual revolution.

Not their fault the US still thinks it is 1776 in terms of social attitudes.

We certainly don't want war, but Americans kept saying they're not a democracy - so all human rights went away with the right to live in one. They won.

What does frighten me is a convicted felon as commander-in-chief.
He already threatened to execute General Milley. 🙄

Says i voted and i did not. But yes every one can be drafted. I like the idea of trans drafted first

Why should they not be? Works perfectly well in Israel.

Equality works both ways

Yes, they should be drafted, IF we return to a draft -- which, as far as I've heard, the US has NO plans for doing. Since there is NO draft, having women register for a possible draft in a future time of national emergency sounds find to me.

Instituting a draft today would be political suicide. Too many Americans have no direct connection to the military.

Of course

So they are bringing the US in line with where the rest of NATO and most of Europe has been for 50 years.

Yet another area where the US is playing catch up.

“Upcoming draft” 🤣
We are so freaking far from that point.

I I nearly joined the Royal Navy, like Dad did. I wouldn’t mind if I got a decent trade.

If you want to do your civic duty, apply to become a member of the draft board.
https://www.sss.gov/about/agency-structure/

I think that’s fair. I mean there are already women serving.

time for a revolution

Oh wait thats old hat [media=https://youtu.be/Xaw--HWHecg]

Yes in the name of equity

I would hope the fact that women would be included in a draft would cause a lot more consideration before implementing a draft.

In my view, we should only be drafting people for existential wars. If we are in a war where our very nation's existence is at stake, then yes I'm okay with women being called to defend it too.

If the nature of the war isn't one where every man and woman that can proficiently use a gun is needed to serve, then we shouldn't be using a draft.

Good for them!

Yes

It was also a Democrat, President Johnson during the Vietnam war who tabled legislation that banned women between the ages of 18 to 26 from being drafted.

All the Democrats did was change their mind, but now you have to ask why?

The reason the draft has ever been imposed in your country in the first place is because of a severe lack of Americans who wanted to join voluntarily and become enlisted soldiers at the time. Times have not changed. American men are no more interested in serving their country than they are about jumping over the moon. This is why women are being included in the draft.

The truth is, it's very easy to avoid the draft in your country. Those who are drafted are typically from very low social status in your country, which means they are not in school nor are they educated beyond high school level.

It is for this reason that draftees of the Vietnam war and WWII were sent directly to the front line of battle because they were considered acceptable collateral damage, whereas a university-educated person would be considered a great loss for America.

It was not the enlisted soldiers who were holding those positions on the front line. The enlisted soldiers were the ones who got promoted and were in a safe place away from the action, barking orders to those on the front line.