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Briggett · T
It should be a requirement for every able bodied person living in America and it’s territories to preformed either militarily or civilian conservation core for minimum of four years, between the ages of 18 to 39. At end year service one would receive the same benefits that the current service members receive.
NerdyPotato · M
@Briggett giving benefits to everyone sounds like socialism 👀
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@NerdyPotato
giving benefits to everyone sounds like socialism
And that is bad because....?
NerdyPotato · M
@Diotrephes it isn't in my opinion, but I thought that was a deadly sin in the USA...
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@NerdyPotato
it isn't in my opinion, but I thought that was a deadly sin in the USA...
That's because socialism isn't taught in the Bible.
NerdyPotato · M
@Diotrephes only if you skip all the parts about Jesus. He was all about socialism.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@NerdyPotato
only if you skip all the parts about Jesus. He was all about socialism.
The Jesus character never gave anyone a half shekel.
NerdyPotato · M
@Diotrephes he was pretty anti-capitalist indeed, but he did give them food and health, and told other people to take care of eachother too.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@NerdyPotato
he was pretty anti-capitalist indeed, but he did give them food and health, and told other people to take care of eachother too.
Actually, the Jesus character was more of a shylock. Rememember that story he told about the guys getting money and how one shoud have loaned it to the Gentiles for interest? Jews were not supposed to charge each other interest on loans.
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Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@NerdyPotato
I'm not familiar with that one, but that sounds hypocritical, just like his dad...
It's a long story in Matthew chapter 25:14-30 (CEV) = https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A14-30&version=CEV
NerdyPotato · M
@Diotrephes that's an interesting story about capitalism. But it's not entirely clear to me who the master is in that. Was that Jesus? It isn't said with so many words and sounds out of character for him.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@NerdyPotato
It's complex story so you may be able to gain insight by reading Matthew chapters 24 & 25 in whole.
Remember Deuteronomy 23:19-20 (CEV) = "Interest on Loans
Moses said:
19 When you lend money, food, or anything else to another Israelite, you are not allowed to charge interest. 20 You can charge a foreigner interest. But if you charge other Israelites interest, the Lord your God will not let you be successful in the land you are about to take."
that's an interesting story about capitalism. But it's not entirely clear to me who the master is in that. Was that Jesus? It isn't said with so many words and sounds out of character for him.
It's complex story so you may be able to gain insight by reading Matthew chapters 24 & 25 in whole.
Remember Deuteronomy 23:19-20 (CEV) = "Interest on Loans
Moses said:
19 When you lend money, food, or anything else to another Israelite, you are not allowed to charge interest. 20 You can charge a foreigner interest. But if you charge other Israelites interest, the Lord your God will not let you be successful in the land you are about to take."
NerdyPotato · M
@Diotrephes that was Moses though, not Jesus.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@NerdyPotato
that was Moses though, not Jesus.
Didn't the Jesus character regurgitate Moses?
NerdyPotato · M
@Diotrephes I'm not sure. I don't know Moses all that well.
DallasCowboysFan · 61-69, M
@Briggett I think Switzerland requires military service until the age of 50. They give their citizens guns that they take home. Aside from the natural barriers found in Switzerland, they would be very tough to overcome.
JollyRoger · 70-79, M
@Diotrephes @NerdyPotato
I'm enjoying your interaction..... Have you come to some conclusion though?
Starting back with @Briggett's postulation: It's not "socialism" - it's a pension for services rendered and it wouldn't have to be a large pension. What it would do is teach young people to respect authority, to honour themselves and to look upon others with compassion (recognizing frailty as a situational entity instead of as laziness)... IF all people (take Switzerland and Israel) had a military experience they would come away with a useful trade or mental skill-set that would enhance their position in our society.
I'm enjoying your interaction..... Have you come to some conclusion though?
Starting back with @Briggett's postulation: It's not "socialism" - it's a pension for services rendered and it wouldn't have to be a large pension. What it would do is teach young people to respect authority, to honour themselves and to look upon others with compassion (recognizing frailty as a situational entity instead of as laziness)... IF all people (take Switzerland and Israel) had a military experience they would come away with a useful trade or mental skill-set that would enhance their position in our society.