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Do you believe that Donald Trump should be in jail ? 馃 馃嚭馃嚥

There seems to be a lot of charges being filed here.
And there also seems to be a lot of information we as a people are not being told.
You saw the news, and the headlines.
Donald Trump has been in the news almost every single day since [b]2015.[/b]
And it has been this way non stop.
Do you believe that after everything you have learned up to this point,
that [b]Donald J Trump[/b] should be prosecuted and sent to prison.

Best answer wins. [b]鈽猴笍[/b]


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windinhishair61-69, M
It doesn't really matter what I think. Donald Trump is entitled to the fair and just application of the law, just as every other citizen is, including a presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Society as a whole deserves a just handling of Trump and his alleged crimes.
Having said that, he has mastered manipulating the justice system to prevent the speedy application of justice. I would like to see Trump charged with any crimes that he has likely committed, and then go through the process of trial by jury to determine whether he is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. To do anything less would be to abandon our system of justice and the rule of law.
windinhishair61-69, M
@GoingDownSouth It is hard to comment on evidence I have not seen. You have no difficulty with it though. Pray tell, what specific evidence of treason, punishable by death, is there, since you obviously know what it is.

"The laptop the DOJ is trying to bury" is not factual information indicating a crime has been committed.

"His old business partner has documents" is not factual information indicating a crime has been committed.

Might I suggest reading and understanding the definition of the word "fact" as well as what constitutes "evidence". Hint: Random speculation is not in either definition.

And there it is! Just as reliably as the sun coming up in the east every morning, the fact-free poster GoingDownSouth couldn't provide a single fact when prompted. When insults didn't work, he blocked me. That's one less uneducated Trump Cultist to deal with.
SW-User
@windinhishair I bet that felt good :) It's great when the Trump cultists scream in rage, smash their keyboard and then block you (assuming the keyboard still works).
windinhishair61-69, M
@SW-User Rage is what they do best and is what keeps them alive.
revenantF
Nope. Good luck to the man
LeopoldBloomM
@revenant In the time you've been spending replying, you could have just explained it. So I'll take that to mean you either don't know the difference, or you looked it up in your dictionary and realized that I'm right.
LeopoldBloomM
@Zonuss I've given up on that. I just want her to explain the difference between "lawful" and "legal." She made a claim and I'm asking her to back it up.

There is a subtle difference. "Legal" refers to everything having to do with the law, not just whether a particular action is within the law. "Lawful" is a subset of this, referring only to actions allowed by law. If something is "lawful," it is also "legal," but John is a lawyer, you wouldn't say "he is a member of the lawful profession." You would say "John is a member of the legal profession." If you were in Nevada, and Betty is a prostitute, you could say "she is in a lawful profession" because prostitution is legal in Nevada.

But if you are talking about an action, "legal" and "lawful" are synonyms:

"Heroin is illegal in California" vs. "using marijuana is legal in California, but selling it without a medical license is unlawful."
Zonuss41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom Good point.
And I'm with you. If Biden is charged then he should be held accountable too.. [b]Trump[/b] fans refuse accountability at all cost. That's why they keep losing.
TH3S10GUY1M
Lets take both Trump and Biden out of this and answer tye question, are you happy with the world today more than you were before 2019.
It boils down to liking the condition the world is in TODAY.
Fuck Joe Biden
TH3S10GUY1M
@BohemianBoo its to keep him from stopping their corrupted plan.
I'm more worried about answering for Hillary, Faucci etc crimes.
Fuck Joe Biden
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I do, but not because of the relatively minor crime of misusing campaign contributions. It is my considered opinion that he is guilty of rather worse crimes than that, if they could only prove it.
Zonuss41-45, M
@CorvusBlackthorne I agree.
I heard he was good at hiding the trail of corruption behind him.
Bill137251-55, M
@CorvusBlackthorne people love to regurgitate things they hear without fact finding. Even CNN acknowledges he used his own money to pay Stormy. I couldn鈥檛 believe CNN would admit it so I actually took a pic of it the other day. People need to do their own homework and stop repeating bs they hear.

LeopoldBloomM
@CorvusBlackthorne They're getting to it.
Nope. And nor should the Jan 6th people.
Zonuss41-45, M
@MasterLee No you hate White people and yourself. Loser.
Zonuss41-45, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic I actually believe you.
@Zonuss Believe me about what?
Dlrannie31-35, F
If he has broken the law then there is no reason to treat him any differently to any other law breaker馃檪
@Dlrannie Hiliary had a similar payoff issue, except she violated federal election laws. She got a fine... no indictment. no parade in the media. Most people don't even know about it.
The goal is to keep him out of the 2024 race. They don't care about jail.
revenantF
@JPWhoo I am not in the US. If Klaus Schwab is your role model, I could not care less but do not force people to swallow and accept total BS
JPWhoo36-40, MVIP
@revenant What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
Zonuss41-45, M
@GoingDownSouth Even if he was [b]allowed[/b] to.win.
Do you really think they would let him be at peace? You do not understand how the [b] World Order [/b] operates my friend. These people are wicked.
There will be no peace.
SW-User
The Left seems to be doing as much as the Right to help his popularity. I despise the man, but don't know really whether any of what is happening now is going to make tomorrow any brighter or better.
windinhishair61-69, M
@TH3S10GUY1 Since you have no facts whatsoever, it is typical Trump Cult behavior for you to resort to insults immediately. Always glad to help school and educate you, free of charge.

Tuck Frump
TH3S10GUY1M
@windinhishair your funny, hilarious, i thank you FOR making me laugh ( and others reading your babble )
You're blind...... im not wasting my time explaining what you fail to SEE, its ALL there .
Fuck Joe Biden
windinhishair61-69, M
@TH3S10GUY1 You haven't presented a single fact yet. Would you care to post one before you run away in shame like a typical Trump Cult keyboard warrior?

Tuck Frump.
graphite61-69, M
Joe BIden should be in jail, along with Pelosi. But laws don't apply to elite Democrats

https://nypost.com/2020/01/18/how-five-members-of-joe-bidens-family-got-rich-through-his-connections/

https://nypost.com/2022/10/05/house-speaker-nancy-pelosi-has-accrued-millions-from-husbands-trades-report/
Zonuss41-45, M
@graphite And you say this based on what. Do you have any proof.
graphite61-69, M
@Zonuss I thought insider trading was supposed to be illegal? Pelosi makes millions on companies she regulates. And the Bidens have raked in millions from Communist China, etc. Nothing to see here, folks. Democrats are above the law.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-biden-family-members-receiving-payments-from-chinese-energy-company%EF%BF%BC/ It's good to be the "big guy"!

Democrats are now following the model of their beloved Soviet Union when it comes to anyone who opposes them: You find the man, I'll find the "crime"
Zonuss41-45, M
@graphite Democrats are not above the law.
I do admit that they have more political influence overall.
justanothername51-55, M
If it鈥檚 Only the mafia that need to plead the 5th when questioned by authorities then why would a self claimed innocent man plead the 5th when questioned by Authorities?

Unfortunately for cry baby Trump you can鈥檛 plead the 5th when questioned in court. You have to answer honestly and truthfully when questioned.
Zonuss41-45, M
@justanothername Good point.
dale74M
Did you watch cnn the said basically new york da is charging a crime of federal statute he is not allowed to prostitute. The only crime is a mistermeaner and statute of limitations is out on it. So this is a bunch of political bs.
LeopoldBloomM
@dale74 Tell that to all of the George Floyd protesters in prison right now.
dale74M
@LeopoldBloom or January 6th people who are in jail still today over 2 years past the day and still not seen a court room. And those who have gone to trial and found guilty only because exculpatory evidence was coverd up till Republicans took back ovet the house. This is a grounds for total disbarred hiding evidence that helps the accused.
LeopoldBloomM
@dale74 If anyone is in jail over 2 years without a trial, they have a crappy lawyer. Where are all those right wing law firms? Probably too busy trying to make abortion illegal or return LGBT to second-class citizenship.

And there is no "exculpatory evidence," if someone was trespassing, that's a crime even if a Trump stooge on the Capitol Police force let them in or they only walked around quietly. The rioters' goal was to prevent Congress from carrying out its constitutionally-mandated duty to count the electoral votes and certify the winner as president, because they had fallen for the lie that the election was fraudulent. We now know that even the cheerleaders on Fox News knew Trump lost, and only perpetuated the Big Lie because they were afraid of losing viewers to Newsmax and OANN.

The people arrested during the George Floyd protests have been treated more harshly than the Jan. 6 rioters, who in many cases received shorter sentences for the same crimes. But you won't hear about this from the biased sources you follow.

[c=003BB2]https://thegrio.com/2023/01/06/a-tale-of-two-insurrections-comparing-the-data-from-the-jan-6-riot-to-the-george-floyd-protests/#:~:text=Well%2C%20the%20Jan.,The%20data%20is%20clear.[/c]
dakotaviper56-60, M
No he should not be in jail. Because if you think otherwise, then EVERYONE who has been Elected to ANY Office here in the USA for the past 50 years that's still above ground, should be in JAIL.

They ALL have skeletons in their closets. Count on it.

The thing about Trump is that he has 'Dirt' on anyone that opposes him. What if his Legal Team decides to subpoena those that he has dirt on. Are they going to answer on the stand or will they take the 5th.
windinhishair61-69, M
@dakotaviper So you believe people who have committed crimes should not go to jail because everyone is a criminal?
dakotaviper56-60, M
@windinhishair that's not what I said. If he's convicted, then yes. But we have a long ways to go before that happens. They're already predicting 5 to 7 years before it even starts despite what this so-called prosecutor wants. And besides, this prosecutor could lose his job before it even starts.
windinhishair61-69, M
@dakotaviper You were the one who declared that every single politician in the US in the past 50 years is corrupt, and that no one should go after Trump because he has blackmail material on anyone who dares to oppose him.

Who is this "they" who say nothing will happen for another 5 to 7 years? You forget that some of these investigations go back two years already. Trump will obviously try to drag things out as long as possible, but I doubt it will be that long given how far along some of these investigations are. I suspect we'll see more activity this year. It isn't surprising that people want to be very thorough, and they should be, but these are running in parallel, not sequentially.
I am sick to death of Donald Trump and his bottomless pit of f***ing drama.
graphite61-69, M
@robingoodfellow Is it his fault the Democrats and their media have spent 7 years trying to destroy Trump because he is such a threat to them? There should be more drama over Biden, Pelosi, Clinton, etc scandals but the mainstream media is uninterested in Democrat corruption.
TH3S10GUY1M
@robingoodfellow you should be sick of all the corruption we are subjected to.
Fuck Joe Biden
Zonuss41-45, M
@graphite It doesn't mean he is innocent.
AthrillatheHunt51-55, M
Simple answer: no
LeopoldBloomM
@AthrillatheHunt I support the last two, but that doesn鈥檛 make up for the other damage he did with his other policies.
AthrillatheHunt51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom we are just beginning to see the effects of all the judges he installed. I would have bet my bottom dollar Roe v Wade was safe forever .
LeopoldBloomM
@AthrillatheHunt On the plus side, with the Democratic Senate majority, Joe Biden will have an effect on the federal judiciary for many years. He already appointed more judges in his first two years than any president since Ronald Reagan.
LeopoldBloomM
Definitely for the election tampering in Georgia and the money laundering and securities fraud in connection with TruthSocial. The other cases are more problematic. He really deserves pristfor his involvement with Iranian terrorists, but unfortunately that won鈥檛 happen.
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Harriet0341-45, F
Has the Pope got a balcony?!!!
Zonuss41-45, M
@Harriet03 Actually he does.
Harriet0341-45, F
@Zonuss
YES, IT'S BLOODY OBVIOUS!
Irony is dead... 馃槶
Elessar26-30, M
Better late than never I guess
LostpoetM
I think he should be prosecuted for the things that he's done, but I don't want to see him in jail.
TH3S10GUY1M
@Lostpoet not saying "The News" is trustworthy or correct but even they said none of this will stop him from running or winning the election.
Its a smoke-screen the Sheep/Biden-lovers will all be glued on Trumps "charges", while they destroy more of our rights.
Fuck Joe Biden
LostpoetM
@TH3S10GUY1 You can't run for president if you have a felony charge. I think all his stuff are misdemeanors though. I don't want four more years of Biden, but I think the Republican party can come up with a better candidate than Trump.
JPWhoo36-40, MVIP
@Lostpoet [quote]You can鈥檛 run for president if you have a felony charge. I think all his stuff are misdemeanors though.[/quote] Wrong on both counts.
George W Bush should be.
smiler201256-60
{@zonuss] irrespective of the fact should trump go jail whether you love him or hate him .he will have his day in court and judical justice will decided his fate one way or the other
Zonuss41-45, M
@smiler2012 We shall see.
eli160170-79, M
TheOrionbeltseeker36-40, M
No, he should not be. 3rd term should be done away with. It should never be the 4th term of a hijacker.
If he has broken laws that require jail/prison as punishment, yes.
SW-User
No.

A much greater punishment would be if he is branded a loser and lives the rest of his life in anonymity.
ChickieF
That BritishNRA dude called me a Lib and blocked me, I'm not even liberal 馃槀 what a dumbass.
Zonuss41-45, M
@Chickie Yes he has some issues.
Human1000M
Yes, but if he would just go away I鈥檇 take it.
Zonuss41-45, M
@Human1000 He's a narcissist.
Not hardly.
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Bill137251-55, M
@LvChris I鈥檓 sure you know that鈥檚 not how it works.
@LvChris He won't get jail time for anything. He probably won't be convinced of anything either.

 
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