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OggggO · 36-40, M
Because they only care about a very narrow selection of "life".

Eternity · 26-30, M
Or to have healthcare for children that wont put their parents in debt for the rest of their lives.

Or to have higher quality education.

Or to be able to enter into a market where big business is made to pay its due to its workers.

Or really anything other than being born. As if life in a system that raises you on the bare minimum just to pick you to the bone, like how we produce the animals we eat, is some big fucking prize.
its very telling that the majority of the people who dont like what you have to say arent responding with a counterargument to the issue, only a personal attack, or just not even understanding anything you are saying but making some noise anyways lol
Graylight · 51-55, F
@orioninthenight Good observation.
revenant · F
What has A got to do with B ?
revenant · F
@Guitarman123 at least I try to explain myself. You do nothing but run away
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@revenant just not explained it to me then?
revenant · F
@Guitarman123 nahhh I won't bother. Take care
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
You could at least try not to be a
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@HoraceGreenley is it too hard for you?
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@Guitarman123 not for me
Mathers · 61-69
Pretty stupid statement that
Mathers · 61-69
Evidence? @samueltyler2
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Mathers what efforts have you seen made to limit access to assaukt-style weapons, to keeping weapons out of the hands of those unable to use them properly? I am a life member of the NRS for m my boy scout years. We had to pass a test before we could even shoot a 22 long single action rifle! We had to memorize the 10 commandments of gun use!
Mathers · 61-69
As we have no access to guns in this country I have made no effort whatsoever@samueltyler2
boudinMan · 61-69, M
wow, i wonder who it is that doesn't want to stop school shootings.
boudinMan · 61-69, M
@Graylight no one is arguing that there is an unlimited right to own any weapon you choose... for example, you cannot go out and just purchase a machine gun.

are you familiar with this? A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@boudinMan if you think that then that's because your falling into the trap most Conservatives do which is when they can't articulate a genuine argument they either insult people or try to dismiss people based on nothing
Graylight · 51-55, F
@boudinMan Are you familiar with this? Those words meant absolutely nothing for 70 years until 2008.

The US Constitution isn't your Ultimate Rights pamphlet. It's a document that outlines the framework of a new nation. It's been changed in the past, it'll be changed again. Guns aren't and American right absolutely.
Graylight · 51-55, F
Because curtailing others' freedoms is what they have a long history in, while any kind of personal sacrifice is unthinkable.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
Wonder why people who want to confiscate guns to "protect life" don't mind killing babies.
revenant · F
@Eternity so when do they start to be alive ?
Peaceandnamaste · 26-30, F
@eli1601 11 year olds get pregnant too, carrying a baby is dangerous for their age.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@Peaceandnamaste So .0000001% of 11 year olds getting pregnant is enough to kill millions of babies?
trollslayer · 46-50, M
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@sunsporter1649 If someone is targeting children they don’t want to do it with an armed staff. In Oklahoma it’s legal for staff to be armed and no one but school authorities know which ones are armed
easterniowegin · 51-55, M
@sunsporter1649 nobody shooting up the copshop...or the donutshop. No one ever shot up an nra meeting or gun trade show either.

The fear of return fire is real.
Matt85 · 36-40, M
Different callings. Some people against this, other's against that. Takes all sorts to make a world go round.
Majorsite · 61-69, M
I would love to stop mass school shootings, But not at the cost of losing My lawful right to own My guns and target shoot, And protect Myself !
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Majorsite so your more important than innocent kids?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Majorsite can you please explained n the me exactly who are you protecting yourself from?
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@Thevy29 you should stop citing false flags as justification.
easterniowegin · 51-55, M
No attempts, huh?!
The ideas aren't missing...leftists' acceptance of the ideas is missing.

- improved mental health treatments
- improved counseling at schools
- make/allow schools crack down harder on bullies (allow victims to fight back!)
- eliminate the "gun free zones" that make schools fish in a barrel
- allow armed teachers/guards at schools
- monitor/protect schools like govt buildings are protected.
- stricter punishments for offenders

Etc...
easterniowegin · 51-55, M
@Guitarman123 where is that suggestion made?
A) it could/would never work
B) it would be illegal/unconstitutional to do so.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@easterniowegin works fine in the uk and why you dedicating yourself to a constitution written hundreds of years ago
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val70 · 51-55
So you think that dealing with the gun issue in Washington will actually connect in some way how America at a national level will view its rights? I'm sorry, but politicking is about the art of the possible always and not wishful thinking
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@val70 Labour supporters didn't want trump to win at all, only reason he did was he brainwashed enough older people to believe that corbyn was an antisemite
val70 · 51-55
@Guitarman123 There you go, you think that people get brainwashed. Shouldn't that ring a bell?
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@val70 that's how the capitalist system works and always has. Distracts people with flashing and spectacular images so society convinces itself that it's needs and interests are the same as the people running the system which is just nonsense. The Conservatives knew that corbyn was a threat and gaining popularity so they had to do every dirty trick possible to demonise him and they are doing the same now with mick lynch and other union leaders because they are showing people what the government is really about which is profit over people
MasterLee · 56-60, M
They have solutions you ignore.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@trollslayer don't worry about it. You will troll either way
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@MasterLee i will assume you are making this up, then, because a google search reveals nothing.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@trollslayer no you will continue to troll. No Google search needed.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
I wonder why people in the UK can’t defend themselves better against knife and sword attacks
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@cherokeepatti compared to school shootings and gun deaths in general knife attacks pale in comparison
@cherokeepatti I’m all for the right to bear arms but this is a stupid comparison. It’s a lot harder to kill a bunch of people with a knife.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Guitarman123 there is a law in my state that allows teachers and other school personnel to be armed with guns. So far no school shooting here.
Elessar · 26-30, M
Stop calling them "pro-life" and designate them for what they are, "pro-forced pregnancies".
Elessar · 26-30, M
@easterniowegin I don't care if it is or isn't normal, I've seen none of you expressing yourselves against this, you're all tacitly complacent.

This proves the only point that needs to be proven and that is relevant in this thread: you couldn't care less about lives - actually all the opposite, you're only after controlling women. Nothing more and nothing less.

🤡
easterniowegin · 51-55, M
@Elessar
You're painting w a very broad brush, but that's what emotions do.
There are plenty who allow exceptions for rape.
Regardless, there should still be harsh penalties for the adults here.


You think it would "care about lives" to kill the baby, at every opportunity?
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I’m pro life ( but I respect that a woman has the right and reasons) if she chooses not to be. I have as a pro life supporter also contacted my representatives with suggestions on how they might do something to impact gun violence.
And the reality is that solving the problem is not simple and there are too many who
want to further their political agendas or line their pockets for the problem to just vanish overnight.
So don’t paint with the broad brush about those who are pro life not wanting to reduce gun violence.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
Pro lifers tend to be ignorant of basic biology.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
And how would you stop them ?
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@ididntknow do what the UK did after a school shooting in Scotland, make guns illegal
Nanoose · 61-69, M
I think it is because they figure if they take a tiny step at stopping gun violence (even if it saves children's life's) they will no longer be able to own as many automatic weapons as they want. So basically it is for selfish un caring reasons. Cheers!
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Nanoose i haven't owned a rifle since I was much younger. I enjoyed target shooting. I do not understand the need to have even one automatic weapon, let alone several. Why does the US need an average of over one weapon per household?
Tres13 · 51-55, M
Kyle is working on it
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@Tres13 when attacked
They don’t care about children after they’re born. That’s why they also never mention the foster care system and the fact that thousands of kids go “missing” in the system each year.
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
I'm not pro life but wtf are they supposed to do? when there's a shooting go be a human body shield in front of the school?
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@DeluxedEdition make guns illegal
Spotpot · 41-45, M
They were also strongly against life saving COVID vaccines
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@Spotpot 🤣 this will not age well
easterniowegin · 51-55, M
@Spotpot wow, you went with the "life saving" moniker over the "safe and effective" one? It does have more miles on it.
I love this psy-op. 🤣
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
As long as enough poor kids grow up to become dead soldiers...
Follow the money.
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Lilnonames · F
Where's your mom at she sent me that picture of you once
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Mathers · 61-69
Well no doubt you think that when looking in the mirror@DiegoWolfe
DiegoWolfe · 36-40
@Mathers no i know it when looking at things like you and your ilk online and in person
Mathers · 61-69
Too bad mate I got in first! 😂😂😂@DiegoWolfe

 
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