Wonder why those who claim to be "pro life" don't seem to want to make any attempts to stop mass school shootings

@val70 when did I say Washington? I'm talking about the whole country and that pro lifers don't actually care about kids once they are born

@val70 Not really interested in how Americans view their rights on this one. The rights they have with regard to guns are largely myth and were any other product killing citizens at this rate, there would be riots and hearings to have it recalled and kept from children. Who today can't play with legos is they seem gay but can tote around their parents 'secured' firearms.

@Guitarman123 Gosh, you're gonna put your trust in the states to legislate on gun control? Can't see any other possiblity. Oh wait, you think that everyone will just come on to the streets and demand gun control? Is that, isn't it, well blow me down

@Graylight I'm not even American, but I am realistic. So you think that there's going to be a majority on gun control when then?

@val70 it works fine in the uk as gun crime is minimal

@Guitarman123 You're comparing apples with pears there, and you know it. There's no majority for total gun control in the United States. It's from Clinton ago that anything has been done. And there have been plenty Dunblames in America since

@val70 how am I supposingly doing that when the point of pro life I thought was supporting the life of a unborn baby but don't seem to care about those children once they start school

@Guitarman123 Welcome to American thought

@val70 that kids aren't important once they are born?

@Guitarman123 No, that guns are there sometimes like cutlery over here. Say, I'm not making this up. Why don't you read anything on American culture instead first? It's big and not so complex. They are simple people

@val70 I'm aware of the culture and Americans weird obsession with guns

@val70 Underestimating another group is the most obvious sign of dysfunction with the source.

@Graylight I meant simple as in overall wholesome, or are you referring to something else? Thinking that one can get rid of the gun from American society by just hoping that people will go onto the streets for it, well, that's darn right not clever thinking

@val70
That's what I'm referring to. Your take on my gun stance, incidentally, is dead wrong.

@Graylight How come? Why isn't there any real movement into this matter since Bill Clinton? You're really asking me to believe that a miracle is around the corner just like that? No, it isn't. Just like Labour supporters in Britain would have had rather Boris than Jeremy any time at the last election, and showed that in spades. Why are you living in this unreal world where you think that America will ever be with a total gun ban? Even in New York there's actual movement the other way

@val70 Again, I commented on your powers of overgeneralization. You're not going to bait me into some illogical argument.

@Graylight Balt? No wonder everyone nowadays votes people like Johnson or Trump in. Must be the powers of overgeneralization, right. You haven't got a clue

@val70 Labour supporters didn't want trump to win at all, only reason he did was he brainwashed enough older people to believe that corbyn was an antisemite

@Guitarman123 There you go, you think that people get brainwashed. Shouldn't that ring a bell?

@val70 that's how the capitalist system works and always has. Distracts people with flashing and spectacular images so society convinces itself that it's needs and interests are the same as the people running the system which is just nonsense. The Conservatives knew that corbyn was a threat and gaining popularity so they had to do every dirty trick possible to demonise him and they are doing the same now with mick lynch and other union leaders because they are showing people what the government is really about which is profit over people