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Now that it has been proven that Trump is a criminal and one of the 5 worst presidents in US history, why do people still support him?

I am thinking most of his supporters are criminals.
Maybe they just really love being lied to !?
Amylynne · 26-30, F
@ElwoodBlues thanks for this. copy time
Amylynne · 26-30, F
@snofan his words
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They(most of his supporters) are used to degrading women, getting pissed on by teenage girls, grabbing pussies, sleeping with their daughters and sisters, and getting high on drugs, guns, bullying, and cannot tolerate any woman speaking up for her rights. Of course, they like him coz he’s exactly like them.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@Vivaci 💯💯💯
@iamonfire696 They’re corrupt and so they find new reasons to support him. Isn’t that sad?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
"Proven" by whom?

I thought the American Constitution is based rather on the British one in dealing with those accused of criminal acts; particularly the vital points of [i]Habeus Corpus[/i], open jury trials and burden of proof on the prosecution.*

Irrespective of the politics of what is anyway a foreign country to me, and irrespective of his
political and business c.v., Mr. Trump is a citizen of a country that does not "prove" anyone guilty of criminal offences other than by due charge and trial that establishes the facts beyond all reasonable doubt. (Or by the defendant eventually changing his or her plea to 'guilty'.)

Whatever your personal opinion of his ideology and abilities as a politician and property-speculator; has Donald Trump been charged with criminal acts and brought before a Court of Law that has established his guilt or innocence?

Unless and until then he is in the same position as any other US citizen merely suspected of breaking the law: perhaps a suspect in the legal not "social media" sense, but still innocent.

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*(These protections are non-existent in many, even Western, democratic European, countries whose judiciaries are based on the "Napoleonic Code". One of the many reasons many Britons wanted to be out of the EU was a fear the [i]bloc[/i] wanted to impose the same Napoleonic system on the UK in the interests of what it calls "Harmonisation".)
@ArishMell I can field that one, actually.

You're right. There's enough evidence to make it appear that he has ties, but that's not good enough for the justice system. They are going to keep gathering evidence until they have enough to convict him. And if it's anything like some of the state level cases I've heard of, they'll actually go above and beyond, charging him with numerous charges they expect him to be able to easily defend against, in the hopes that at least one sticks.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@LordShadowfire Yes, I see that; and obviously no-one can be prosecuted without sufficient good evidence.

However, until enough such evidence has been amassed to first press charges then to satisfy a court sufficiently of proven guilt, any suspect is considered innocent in law whatever politicians, opinion-columnists and social-media sites publish.

A judge has already made it difficult to hold a fair trial by having been reported very widely as saying the former President almost certainly broke the law. A judge can opine on general points of law, but should never suggest the outcome of an individual case not yet brought to court.

Stacking up spurious charges like a legal blunderbus, gambling on at least one succeeding, is not good justice either. It has eerie echoes of countries that lack such niceties as open courts and prosecution burden of proof.

Having been a president does not place Donald Trump above the Law. If he is suspected of criminal acts then it is right he is investigated and if he has a case to answer, then he is charged and tried; but in the proper manner, with the whole process openly, entirely fair and above-board. If it is not, the outcome could be very harmful indeed.

What seems to escape many Americans is that their country's febrile domestic politics is reported internationally, and this pre-judging may be as bad for the nation's reputation abroad as it is for justice within the nation.
They [b]don’t[/b] care. Some don’t believe their own eyes and ears, but mostly, they’ve decided that whatever Trump does will somehow benefit them (even with evidence to the contrary) so the ends justify the means. I’m not sure what would have to happen to shake them out of it.
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
For real, death won’t even stop them.@bijouxbroussard
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@MarmeeMarch Look, shitstick. The fact that you are [i]constantly[/i] examining [i]everything[/i] I say, trying to claim it's all racist, tells me all I need to know about your mentality. I just said that you don't want them in office. The people Joe appointed. You feel that by appointing people who fall into certain minority categories, it's some kind of war on white people. That's how the so-called white nationalists disguise their racism, and I'm starting to think you've got something to hide yourself, because you sure are obsessed with the color of their skin.
ron122 · 41-45, M
Why do people still support Biden? Brainwashed I imagine.
ron122 · 41-45, M
@anythingoes477 I did look after someone told me what a strange sick person you are. This from the guy that thinks people want to see how inadequate he is. I did get a good laugh when I saw how small you are.🤣 You could identify as a woman.🤣
@ron122 You really do have an obsession with guys cocks, don't you? I hope u find a bf soon. You seem to have more issues than Readers Digest does. Maybe if you can find someone whose dick does please you your mouth will more full of that than the comical things you say to me. 😆 🤣 Told ya..not into gays. Stalking wont change my mind.
ron122 · 41-45, M
@anythingoes477 Don't get mad at me just because you have a little dick that's your problem.🤣
ron122 · 41-45, M
@LordShadowfire Must be hell going through life in denial.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire
You're obviously confused. No surprise there.
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Harriet03 · 41-45, F
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👆 All printed in the British & European press. Guess how many he sued?
There's your clue!
Amylynne · 26-30, F
@Harriet03 but i found a LOT on his actions re: 13 year old girl..
https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
butterflybaby75 · 46-50, F
@Harriet03 Trump operates in the sewer. And his prime audience - disaffected god people.
Amylynne · 26-30, F
@Harriet03 https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2020/10/21/trump-sexual-assault-allegations-share-similar-patterns-19-women/5279155002/
nedkelly · 61-69, M
I am pleased your parents received an apology from the condom manufactures for selling faulty condoms
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Thanks "trollplayer"

Hope it gets you the attention you crave. 👍
GerOttman · 61-69, M
it's keeps liberal idiots occupied so they don't hurt themselves or others
@GerOttman you gotta ask..
every time they claim they got him.. why didn’t they mention this overwhelming crime during 2x impeachment attempts? 🤷‍♂️

Ooh, they got orange man this time!.. 😁
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GerOttman · 61-69, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout it's like he's in a round room and they keep trying to back him into a corner.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
The kindest way to put it is that they are sheeple... they blindly believe anything they are told by Trump and those like him. These poor sheeple creatures have low intellect and this helps with their believing anything they are told and it means they are unable to understand, let alone assimilate facts.
ron122 · 41-45, M
@Adaydreambeliever Oh god you again.🤮
pdockal · 56-60, M
Has he been convicted ?
Correct me but when he left office we were better off then we are now
Gas and other prices are thru the roof now
pdockal · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire
You make me fucking laugh
Especially because NOBODY can say what positive things Biden has done in office or in his time as a politition
@pdockal Oh, so we're back to this lie again? How many more times do I have to list it for you motherfuckers? How many more fucking times must I tell you what he's done?
pdockal · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire
Go for it
Tell me what biden has done
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
If anyone remembers going to the supermarkets in the 1960s and 1970s, and the idiots in line that would pick up the cheesy publications and read them, standing in everyone’s way, well these and their spawn are Trump supporters.
Ynotisay · M
"Us vs. Them" is more important to some than acting in their own best interest. IMO, his continued support is the result of systematic brainwashing that appeals to the fear and need to blame that some have in their life.
Baremine · 70-79, C
Trump has NOT been proven to be a criminal. His supporters are not criminals. That plays out in the Democratic party candidates on a regular basis.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
No convictions, can Smollett say the same
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
Why has Trump not been sanctioned yet here is proof that he has close ties with Mr Putin
Just a thought since some of the Oligarchs have been sanctioned because they are in a picture with Mr Putin and they were not even holding his hand like Mr Trump is
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
@redredred I am not doubting that, as do high-end business people meet president's socially. I am pointing out that in some cases being pictured with Mr Putin socially was grounds to get that businessman sanctioned
Is Trump not also a businessman?
redredred · M
@Longleggedlady in the role pictured, no. Name a businessman sanctioned as you claim.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@Longleggedlady it’s the leader of one country shaking the hand of another leader of a country, like others have said, did Putin invade Ukraine whilst Trump was in the White House? NO, and why, because Trump was a strong leader, and they knew it, A weak America, is not good for the world,
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
"Biden could owe as much as $500K in back taxes, government report indicates"

Now that sippy-cup is proven to be a criminal and one of the five worst presidents in history why do people still support him?
MartinII · 70-79, M
The idea that anyone can be “proven” a good or bad President is ludicrous. It’s a matter of opinion.
@MartinII The next election isn’t until 2024, but while I don’t vote Republican, there are a couple of Republicans who could win and I might not feel like the sky is falling. Trump is [b]not[/b] one of them.
Ynotisay · M
@MartinII Not sure about that. Actions have consequences and consequences play out over time.
MartinII · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard Yes, sorry, of course it’s 2024.
mikeylyksit · 41-45, M
troll SLAYER? Nay I say

I dub thee trollplayer
@mikeylyksit He is definitely playing trolls around here.
Is this Hillary Clinton’s sw account?

Projecting again hilldawg? 😁
cycleman · 61-69, M
Trump has the dirt on everybody who has entered into his casinos/hotels
@cycleman I'm fully convinced that's how he gets away with shit.
@cycleman @LordShadowfire I think you’re right. I’ve always thought he had something on Lindsey Graham. I just look at how he’s tried to get dirt on Hillary, and on Tucker Biden. That was not a new m.o. for him.
lumberjackslam · 41-45, M
want to throw someone in jail don't you? how bout yourself?
@lumberjackslam Who was the [b]criminal[/b] chanting "lock her up" ? Not the OP.
lumberjackslam · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard this is a trick question. no criminal was chanting that 😂
@lumberjackslam Sure there was. That he’s also been the 45th POTUS for a minute doesn’t change that.
SW-User
because people are crazy XD
@SW-User In a nutshell.
SW-User
@bijouxbroussard it will only get worse too
FreestyleArt · 31-35, M
Umm how many times they been saying this? Do you think before you brag?


Tell me how many times they claim Trump is going to prison and then people like you forget about it until there's another claim which is another sham?


I swear Trump is like Kenny who gets killed and comes back to life and then his friends forgets about his last death in South Park.
Tres13 · 51-55, M
U have TDS variant of Covid
ididntknow · 51-55, M
Let’s see what Americans say, when another 3 months have passed, when inflation bites, interest rates rise, people start to lose their jobs, in turn start to lose their homes, let’s see how much they hate Trump, and love Biden then,
@Harriet03 I agree. Everybody knew that already.
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
What channel are you watching? All mine are worrying about Biden. Finally people are scared shitless of his mind and our safety.
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
Their Cult Followers 😄 & Trump is The Cult Leader Like Jim Jones & Charles Manson
Slade · 56-60, M
@JohnOinger You are getting softer by the day - everyone who supported him is a mass murderer now?🙄
1490wayb · 56-60, M
obvious...same as anyone else with a following...he says what they want to hear
Slade · 56-60, M
Save you pennies - libel judgements are expensive
Lolz. Proven… lolz

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ididntknow · 51-55, M
Who proved that then
Human1000 · M
He appeals to a certain demo, and the Dems have moved too far to the left.
Human1000 · M
@OggggO Raising defense …. Yikes. Enough already.
@Human1000 I defy you to find a genuinely leftist political party in the United States with any kind of power.
Human1000 · M
@LordShadowfire I don't see any, but I don't think that is dispositive.
They live along the banks of a certain river in Egypt.
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@MarmeeMarch Oh, NOW You're interested in burden of proof?
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