Should democratic states and counties pay welfare to republican states and counties

@Ynotisay You can keep saying that I'm wrong, but I'm still waiting on why I'm wrong. Just saying "you are wrong" doesn't really advance the conversation. And pointing to some abstract idea like "being diffrent" doesn't make it anymore concrete.

But I'm afraid that once you are going to explain how your governement works, we are going to come to a point where the federal governement raises a treasury by taxing some entity that is under it's rule. And then that some entities are eligble of getting a part of the federal pot, and thus the federal governement distributes it. The moment we come to that point I'll ask you if that isn't what I've been talking about from the start of the conversation. And if you say "no" and you can't explain why, I'm going to laugh my socks off. Not because it's funny, but because of the incredible sadness that is just hiding around the corner. But I'll give you a fair chance to explain to me that it's not that way, but don't make me loose my sox. Thanks.

@Kwek00 Dude? I could argue with specifics all day long. But it's pointless. And to tell you the truth? I tend to get a little fired by outsiders telling me the way my town, state and country operates. Or should. So maybe you need to stay in your lane.

Side note. Your country owes the U.S. about $470 million. Maybe you can focus up on having your country pay us back. Thanks in advance.

@Ynotisay Then why are you even here? You should have fucked off the moment you read that I was from Belgium. You don't have to be here.

I guess you are not going to the specifics of what we are talking about, but we are going to do specifics about things we aren't talking about. Not because you are unable too of course, but because these conversations turn you into tribalistic dipshit which makes it hard for you to hold up a conversation. I understand, good luck with your life.

@bijouxbroussard They would! absolutely! Nothing Republicans like more than getting money on the backs of those less well off!!

@SHREKPage Ironic that so many of those less well off are Republicans now.

@bijouxbroussard Thats actually a pivotal point that most people miss in this discussion. The Republican theory is one of short term profit for a few, but long term decline of the whole. The more progressive platform of the Democrats does tend to grown the whole through developing the infrastructure and educating the workforce. Thie encourages new industries to move to the area, even if they have to pay more taxes, because they can draw on local skills and sell into a better local market.😷

@anythingoes477 You nailed it. And a great example is how their power grid failed, due to their own policies, and the federal government was forced to declare a major disaster which their 'real 'murican' governor screamed for. That unleashed a shitload of taxpayer dollars to help. Pretty much sums it up.

@Ynotisay Another example.....Kentucky. 8 times Rand Paul has gone into a tirade in front of congress and TV cameras about socialism when other states had natural disasters and FEMA and Federal Aid was suggested. Where was he when the 200 mile tornado hit Kentucky?? In Congress telling them how great socialism is...IN KENTUCKY. McTurtle has cancelled and trash canned 36 bills sent to him...PASSED...from the House that deal with climate change. Then a 200 mile tornado hits Kentucky...IN DECEMBER. Both of those hypocrites immediately had their hands out. Climate change denial had fingerprints all over the damage in Kentucky....but if a flood hits another state...or a forest fire hit again in a Blue state.........get ready to hear more of their bullshit about "the gov should never help them...screw them...let those Blue states figure it out without socialism."

@anythingoes477 Yep. You're on the money with that one. Where it gets tough for me is that there's a little bit of "Well, screw Kentucky. You get what you deserve and vote for." But that's not fair to people in need. I'd like to think that people are smart to recognize that hypocrisy and those lies and act accordingly. But they don't. I think they've been systematically brainwashed to act against their own best interests. And we all end up paying for that.

@ElwoodBlues This picture shows the counties though... not states. Like in the blue part you see:

Harris, TX
Tarrant, TX
Finnelas, FL
Duval, FL

And in the red parts the few things you can make out are:

Nassay NY
Suffolk, NY
Kern, CA

Which sould smash the illusion that some people in here create, that a state is either homogenous democratic or homogenous republican. But if the conversation goes on about the county, which is also asked, then you get even more of a divide, and we are talking about another level of power. And if we are going to look even more closely, on the indiviudal leve, we'll probably find red and blue voters in all of the counties too. Because they are ussually also not homogenous. As I said in my message on this post: [i]"[...] there is nothing more destructive for a welfare system organised on a federal level, then citizens and political actors talking about specific groups or territory that get more then others."[/i].

The language that I find in this post [i](not from you, but from others)[/i], is the same language that is used in Catalonia (Spain) and Flanders (Belgium) by groups that use it as an an argument to secede their "state" from their federal governement.

@Burnley123 And speaks even more that the rest of the world used to look to America for social leadership and now most shake their heads and turn away.😷

@Burnley123 There's no shortage or working class tories, either.

@jackrabbit10 Texas has been fucked up for years, just another one of the Shit Hole States

@independentone As soon as enough Californians move there, Texas will improve.

@LeopoldBloom Texas is hot, humid and has bugs. Weather sucks there

@ron122 Yet most Red States take more in Federal money than they pay in. Seems Red States are all welfare states.

@ron122 In fact that is not true....or even close. The highest per capita county..97% on welfare is in Kentucky. Two counties over from where McTurtle lives. They are his District....and yet when he rants how bad socialism is...they vote for him again. Too clueless and uneducated to know their handouts is what McTurtle wants to end. Look up Red states vs Blue states for welfare dollars. Do it. Learn something.

@Eternity You'd think it'd make more sense to split them into west coast, midwest/south, and northeast, since that's roughly how the political parties are divied up as-is. I somewhat doubt it'd help much with testing policies, considering that all kinds of countries already have policies that either party is advocating for. If that's your angle, I'd go one step further and enshrine more states' rights into law. Get a whole political laboratory going.

@Eternity The divide isn’t red and blue states, but blue cities and red rural areas.

@AthrillatheHunt But democratis signficantly out of proportion support republican failed policies