Maui fires, arson?

Terrorists are responsible for the low humidity and mountain winds?

@Ynotisay When money is involved, people will do just about anything to get it =

‘Utter chaos’: Maui residents say they are being looted, ‘robbed at gunpoint’
By Isabel Keane
August 14, 2023

Some Maui residents say they have been looted and robbed at gunpoint while catastrophic wildfires rage on the island — leaving them begging for a greater response from authorities as thieves make off with vital supplies.

As rescue crews work to deliver necessities such as water, food, and first aid to those in need, locals say some residents have grown so desperate waiting for help that they’ve resorted to stealing.

West Maui residents blame the robberies in Lahaina on the fact that they feel abandoned without supplies or answers.

Kami Irwin, a Maui resident helping to coordinate relief efforts, told Insider that locals began neighborhood patrols and distributing supplies when they realized they were only seeing volunteers — not government officials — coordinating aid efforts.

“We literally have no idea because we are not hearing answers from anybody,” Irwin told Insider. “We are still left without knowing what to do.”
https://nypost.com/2023/08/14/maui-residents-claim-people-being-looted-robbed-at-gunpoint/

‘We need some help here’: West Maui residents say government aid is scant
"NAPILI-HONOKOWAI, MAUI >> Days after the deadliest U.S. wildfire in more than a century ignited in West Maui, killing dozens and leveling more than 2,200 buildings, increasingly frustrated residents said that they were receiving far more help from an ad hoc network of volunteers than they were from the government."
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2023/08/14/hawaii-news/we-need-some-help-here-west-maui-residents-say-government-aid-is-scant/

Attorneys aim to make Hawaiian Electric pay for Maui disaster
"Several law firms have begun suing Hawaiian Electric, alleging that the utility company is negligently responsible for the incredibly deadly and destructive Lahaina fire.

At least two lawsuits against the company and its Maui Electric Co. subsidiary have been filed in state court seeking class-action status representing victims of the wind-driven inferno that killed at least 96 people and destroyed more than 2,700 structures preliminarily valued at $5.6 billion.

More such litigation is expected, and some attorneys aim to have Hawaii’s biggest electric utility compensate people for losses through civil litigation that could be similar to a case against California-based utility firm PG&E Corp. stemming from Northern California wildfires a few years ago.

No cause of the Lahaina fire has been officially determined yet, and the number of people who perished in Hawaii’s worst natural disaster since statehood is expected to rise as meticulous searching continues."
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2023/08/14/hawaii-news/attorneys-aim-to-make-hawaiian-electric-pay-for-maui-disaster/

So, the greedy lawyers are ushing the claim that the power company is responsible, although no cause has been determined. What about the land owners who didn't keep their land cleared of grass along the power lines?

should the power company have cut off all power to the entire island, thereby placing the whole infrastructure inoperable, including all hospitals, the airport, the fire and police systems useless, and depriving sick people of the power needed to run their machines to keep them alive?n Can you imagine the whining that would have happened if the power company had shut-down all eletrical power on the island? There would have been riots all over the place and some people could have died without the power. Of course some died anyway.

Why do wildfires often ignite a firestorm of conspiracy theories?

Experts say false information and misleading images shared after Maui fires can exploit people's emotions

Nick Logan - CBC News

Posted: August 16, 2023

It's yet to be determined what exactly ignited the ferocious wildfires that ravaged Maui and destroyed much of the historic town of Lahaina last week, but online conspiracy theorists have plenty of thoughts about how — and why — the deadliest fires in Hawaii's history were started.

Conditions were already ripe for wildfires, with a combination of persistent dry weather and drought, when Maui was hit with powerful winds on Aug. 8, sending flames racing across swaths of the island.

But the tragedy has spurred social media posts that would have you believe that it was a laser beam from space that sparked the devastating blaze or that the disaster may be a part of a land grab or a sinister ploy to develop a 15-minute city on the tropical island — familiar conspiracy theories that have thrived in times of disaster.

There is no proof any of these are true — often they can easily be debunked — but theories like these can thrive in times of uncertainty after a disaster strikes, say experts, as people try to make sense of a tense and emotional situation and anxiously look for a cause to pinpoint.

"Everybody is susceptible to mis- and disinformation, but in different ways and for different reasons," said Samantha Bradshaw, an assistant professor at the school of international service at American University in Washington, D.C.

But wildfires in particular, she said, present a unique opportunity for rumours and false narratives to spread.

"They are just so visible and so devastating and so violent in their effects, it's really hard for people to not pay attention to news about them."

Hopefully we will eventually find out what ignited the fire(s).

Yes, conditions were ripe for horrific wildfires....but what ignited it? I have not seen any reports of any downed power lines, no reports of a failed camp fire extinguished....and no, it was not an act of some god.

So far, the overall response to the Maui fire indicates a conspiracy to steal the people's land for the land developers. Consider the fact that they ran out of body bags and the slow pace of the search for corpses. Look at history and you will see how the government has responded to foreign disasters much more quickly and more in depth.

Yet, here we are with a major disaster in our own country and the powers that be are dragging their feet in addressing the situation.

Consider the nitwit who just resigned because he didn't want to sound the alarm. It would be far better if he was a crook than just an incompetent idiot who should never had had the job in the first place. To think that the system is loaded with such idiots means that we are really in some deep shit up to our eyeballs.

EXCLUSIVE: Maui wildfires death toll climbs to 480 locals claim, as Hawaii morgue workers run out of body bags and survivors are left to recover the charred remains of their loved ones
Locals have been forced to carry out their own search and recovery efforts in the aftermath of the deadly Lahaina wildfires amid the slow response from officials, DailyMail.com has learned
Maui resident and volunteer Allisen Medina, 24, has also claimed authorities are underplaying the death toll: 'I know there are at least 480 dead here in Maui and I don't understand why they're not saying that'
She said the slow recovery process has led to family members being left to find the charred corpses of their loved ones themselves, including a friend of hers who lost four family members 18 August 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12420893/Maui-wildfires-death-toll-update.html

I hear you but I don't know if that's true in this case. I think arson makes up something like 10 percent of wildfires. But humans cause something like 80 percent. Lots of ways that can happen, But you're right that they were primed for a big one. Abnormally dry, hot, windy and a lot of parched grass. Fold that in to old, wooden buildings and it was a disaster waiting to happen. Such a bad scene.

Have you noticed that the terrorist arsonists are now brning up Washington State? No one seems to care Better buy your lumber today because it will soon be in short supply and very expensive.

Jewish arsonists maybe?
Maybe they tried their new space laser update

It seems that a couple of guys contributed to the Maui fire disaster. The gy who could have sounded the alarm didn't do it because he reserves the alarm for tsunamis. His thinking was that if people heard the alarm they would have thought that they were going to get drowned and would have ran to higher ground,,toward the fire. The other guy wouldn't release the water to fight the fire. He might have been concerned with contamination or something.

I wonder if they will have to have constant bodyguards?

As I said about two weeks ago, we are now seeing the start of the fire attacks in the east, in southern Louisiana.

Louisiana wildfires: Everything you need to know, including how to track them
BY POET WOLFE | Staff writer Aug 25, 2023
"As of Friday afternoon, more than half a dozen fires burned across Louisiana, according to Wildfire Aware. This online dashboard tracks wildfires, their level of containment, start date and even name.

Here's everything you need to know about the wildfires burning in Louisiana.

360 wildfires and counting
Beauregard Parish issued a mandatory evacuation on Thursday evening as the parish battles Tiger Island Fire—the largest wildfire in the state.

As of Friday morning, that wildfire was only 50% contained, marking a setback in the firefight. It was 65% on Friday afternoon.

This month, around 360 wildfires have burned about 20,000 acres in the state. Tiger Island Fire has more than tripled this original round-up, as the blaze went through 16,000 acres just this week, according to authorities."
https://www.nola.com/news/louisiana-wildfires-including-tiger-island-fire-burn/article_daeb64b2-b331-54d1-85d2-a5ebdcd7bedd.html#tncms-source=featured-3

Expect things to get worse. There is a lot of wood in the South.

Think about this as a motive for the fire being arson: MONEY

Lahaina residents worry a rebuilt Maui town could slip into the hands of affluent outsiders
"LAHAINA, Hawaii (AP) — Richy Palalay so closely identifies with his Maui hometown that he had a tattoo artist permanently ink “Lahaina Grown” on his forearms when he was 16.

But a chronic housing shortage and an influx of second-home buyers and wealthy transplants have been displacing residents like Palalay who give Lahaina its spirit and identity.

A fast-moving wildfire that incinerated much of the compact coastal settlement last week has multiplied concerns that any homes rebuilt there will be targeted at affluent outsiders seeking a tropical haven. That would turbo-charge what is already one of Hawaii’s gravest and biggest challenges: the exodus and displacement of Native Hawaiian and local-born residents who can no longer afford to live in their homeland.

“I’m more concerned of big land developers coming in and seeing this charred land as an opportunity to rebuild,” Palalay said Saturday at a shelter for evacuees.

Hotels and condos “that we can’t afford, that we can’t afford to live in — that’s what we’re afraid of,” he said.

“So a lot of more recent arrivals — typically from the American mainland who have more money and can buy homes at a higher price — were to some extent displacing local families in Lahaina,” Higa said. It’s a phenomenon he has seen all along Maui’s west coast where a modest starter home two decades ago now sells for $1 million."
https://apnews.com/article/hawaii-maui-lahaina-housing-prices-shortage-d8902c3ea55a8ec4d9938865f3f749f7

Here's an update from the Honolulu newspaper =

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2023/08/13/breaking-news/in-search-for-cause-of-maui-fires-lawyers-probe-power-lines/

The lawyers have a record of going after power companies in such incidents because the power companies have deep pockets. They are already signing up clients like hungry ambulance chasers. So, imagine if the lawyers have a team of arsonists who go around in isolated areas and cut the poles enough so that the high winds will topple the poles, causing the wires to break and spark, setting off the fires.

That may sound far-fetched until you think about all of the crooked layers who have scammed people throughout the years. Some have been caught but some haven't been. In a way it is the perefect crime. The fires destroy the evidence and everything seems natural except the power companies take the fall and have to pay the bill. Of course the power company simply jacks up its rates to pay for the damages and the lawyers' fancy cars and houses and the customers foot the bill.

But, the power company can be on the hook because it didn't cut the power as is the standard procedure in today's world. Is the guy in charge also in on the scam? Better keep an eye on those bank accounts.

To whomever left the comment asking why the Maui Catholic Church was saved.
Under the auspice, I imagine, that it was "divine intervention."
Lots of defensible space and, the big one, it's made of freaking stone.
Make sense?

It seems that the terrorist arsonists have launched an attack in Texas this week. It might be in reponse to how they are treating the illegal aliens there. The fires are proving to be very effective in causing all kinds of economic damage in Canada, Hawaii, California, Chile, and now Texas. Chances are there will be lots more this year because they are so easy to get away with.

There's no hint of evidence yet of arson. You sound paranoid.

God works in mysterious ways. He is humbling those arrogant and rich people that live on that la la land island. Think about it. More to come.

Seattle Times Report:

All evidence — videos, witness accounts, burn progression, and utility equipment remaining — points to Hawaiian Electric's equipment being the ignition source of the fire that devastated Lahaina,” said Mikal Watts, a Puerto Rico-based plaintiffs lawyer at Watts Guerra who has won millions of dollars in settlements in ...3 hours ago.

How these fires start isn't the big issue, it's that extended periods of heat and dry weather create conditions that allow the fires to burn out of control. There has always been arsonists and just plain careless people. There has not always been the extreme stretches of weather we're seeing on a regular basis, globally.

Interviews and video evidence reviewed by The New York Times show that the brush fire last week that wiped out Lahaina in Maui ignited under a snapped power line a full nine hours before it roared through town — flaring up in the afternoon after firefighters had declared it contained.

That night in Manoa valley on Oahu, eighty mile an hour winds blew down five power lines and one hit a car. That started a fire and crews were not able to extinguish it until the entire phone pole burned. Agriculture came and then the fields were not watered and it was abandoned as global warming took rain away from the Islands and cars added the fatal amount of warming. Children today are suing the state to make public transportation possible and let the islands cool.
We expect you to find some other cause for the fires we live with and doing nothing to stop the burning is obviously the Murkan way.

Arrest Joe Biden for arson

CBS News...1 day ago:

What caused the Maui fire? An investigation is underway to determine what initially sparked the wildfires, and the cause has not been officially determined. Investigators are looking into whether downed power lines and decisions by Hawaiian Electric, the state's primary power company, played a role.

The mystery of the missing children still remains

Almost as bad as almost losing a corvette

How would you explain the Maui catholic church left unscathed by surrounding fires? Was God protecting it from the attack?

Biden did nothing to prevent it.

When reconstruction begins, fjb will take credit for creating those new jobs

Did biden crash a corvette at 170 mph?

Prove it

So sad. 😞

People are starting to wake up now to the bs that's going on in the world nowadays.