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All three vaccines are safe

I know because the government says so.
No other time was you ever offered a choice on what manufacturer you wanted
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so safe, the gov't wants to force the "vaccines" on everyone.
MarineBob · 61-69, M
@gol979 in the USA people would be headed to prison
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@gol979
but you're willing to enact forced injections into children to prove you are "correct".
Nothing to do with proving anything - standard and fairly uncontroversial public health measures in most sane countries.

I thought you were all about the science and good ethics?
Nothing scientific or ethical about not vaccinating your kids - there are times the state has to protect kids (and their peers) from their parents' idiocy.
gol979 · 46-50, M
@QuixoticSoul so you're in favour of children getting injected without parental consent?
TexChik · F
@Elessar you write a pro lib book and you’re just commenting ? Go comment some where else
Elessar · 31-35, M
@TexChik Uhm yes, why wouldn't it be? Addressing factually inaccurate statements is "writing a pro-lib book"? I told you, I couldn't care less of neoliberalisms.

We're in a public commentary section of a public post, as per the site ToS everyone can comment wherever they think it is appropriate, without violating the other terms. You have several means if you want to keep your posts "safe" from any criticism - either limiting the scope of your posts to your circle, or straight blocking literally anyone whose vision differs from yours.
Miklee02 · 51-55, F
@TexChik right? Jeepers he’s a mess!
curiosi · 61-69, F
Same government that claimed agent orange was safe, fluoride etc......
@curiosi many FDA approved drugs get pulled later.

Pfizer doesn't require their employees to get the jab. Their CEO is unvaccinated. Maderna doesn't require their employees to get the jab. The CDC doesn't require their employees to get the jab. The White House doesn't require employees to get the jab.

Yet Biden wants to mandate it for everyone else.
turbineman40 · 80-89, M
@BizSuitStacy Thanks for the interesting information
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
I know an immunologist I just talk to him.

Oh no wait it's actually a giant conspiracy he's probably in on it my bad.
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CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@CopperCicada This is why I believe the vaccine/masks/social distancing side of this ludicrous argument. Not only does it makes sense on the face of it, but the alternative is to believe fucking insane stuff.

Like how millions upon millions of people who work on disease for a living around the world are just... what, making shit up all day every day? You're paid six figures to just make shit up? What do they think they DO.
AbbySvenz · F
“Oh yeah? How come there wasn’t a big deal over flu season last year??”

It’s almost as if masks and social distancing and hand washing work against more than just COVID-19….. 🤔
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@OldBrit it’s a risk I’m willing to take, however there’s many deaths put down as Covid, when They have actually died from a heart attack, cancer etc. So are the figures really correct.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@SW-User Yes - if you look at the ONS data that is the best. The daily figure will include young Fred who tested positive 2 weeks ago but was fine until he rode his bike under a lorry. Now however when the death certificate is written he won't be a covid death since clearly the covid has played no part in his death.

In this country to register a death means a doctor puts his professional reputation on the line. He states in his professional opinion what led to the death. Often multiple things will be put down, pneumonia being a great example along with influenza or Covid or some other infection. Now in a case where someone in hospital dies of a heart attack - as my friend did - but he has been hospitalised because he has covid - positive test - then both go on the death certificate if the doctor believes the strain put on his heart by his poor functioning lungs was largely or in part due to Covid. As happened to my friend. Did Covid kill him? Maybe not - Did he die because he had Covid? Most likely the inevitable was speeded up

There is this belief that all the doctors in the UK walk around making up reasons for death. At any point an autopsy may be called and that doctor have to defend at an inquest what they wrote. They don't make it up.
SW-User
@OldBrit I mean they had Covid at the time of dying from a heart attack or cancer that would have killed them anyway.
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
Yep, as safe as those 4,500+ FDA approved drugs and devices that are pulled from the market each year... 🤔
SW-User
I know the vaccines are safe because I believe science rather than random conspiracy theorists on the internet.
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Shaveit
We live in a society.

I’m saying it’s 15 minutes of Russian Roulette
Lmao I take more of a risk every time I drive into work. You have a truly bizarre approach to risk assessment.
Shaveit · 61-69, M
@QuixoticSoul I deal in Rick assessment every day
Gangstress · 41-45, F
I get it.
They have us over a barrel.
Either get vaccines or stop life.
Can't go on holiday without a paid test. Can't go to a festival without a pcr test. Can't do this without blah blah. It's fucking ridiculous.
Knowing now. After being vaccined. People contracting covid are getting worse symptoms then pre vaccine.

I'm now like wtf have I gone and done. I just wanted to go to a fucking festival with with worries.
It's a load of shitty bollox

Sorry for swearing lots
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@Oster1 I did.

Ignore Koch. Virus has to be in a host so can't be isolated. Can't alter DNA cos no mechanism to do so introduced...
Oster1 · M
@OldBrit Have a nice day.You have not answered my questions. Tough questions. Do you really think I’m stupid? I do not play these circular games.

You have proven to me what I knew all along. You are not good against knowledgeable opposition. I am done here. Take care.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@Oster1 I still believe I answered the questions.

What is still outstanding?
akindheart · 70-79, F
not sure i agree with you on this one. i am having serious trouble with the only 2 meds i take. funny that it isless than 5 months after the vaccine after 15 years
FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F
If the politicians weren't getting vaccinated.. then I'd worry.
@Elessar You haven't explained shit. All you've done is stomped your feet, thrown a temper tantrum, posted a link to a gov't website and tossed out insults. Without an internet browser and the TV, you'd be silent on the topic.

So the real question is why are you so triggered? Do you have some vested interest in the definition? I know the pharma companies and gov't do. You're worried about people refusing the jab clogging up the hospitals. I'm worried about the people who got the jab being permanently injured or killed.

I am not an anti-vaxxer. Quite the opposite in fact. Once a real vaccine is produced from a killed or modified live virus, that's fully tested, I'll get it.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@BizSuitStacy Actually I have, if you lack the mental capacity to read a simple two-lines long definition and see why it couldn't apply to what you're describing, the fault is not on me. I can't magically make brains appear in empty skulls.

Already explained, again, but evidently your comprehension issues came up again. If you all decide to intoxicate yourselves with ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, or even bleach, I seriously couldn't care less. The moment your actions start harming *others*, either incrementing the number of hospitalization (and thus the enaction of new restrictions), facilitating the spread of new mutations, infecting people who can't for various reasons benefit from vaccine-induced immunity (kids until their own specific clinical trial is complete, immunocompromised et al.), you can't expect others not to care. It's that simple, really.

Not a single antivaxxer I know would call himself an antivaxxer. I don't care about labels, you behave like one.

Oh, go get Sinovac or Sinopharm if you prefer. They're both old school vaccines made from inactivated virions.
@Elessar
I can't magically make brains appear in empty skulls
- That's true. If you could, you'd actually have something inside that skull of yours other than mush.

So Einstein...why isn't the Pfizer gene therapy FDA approved? Or did you swallow that bait and switch from the FDA, hook, line and sinker? Why do you suppose the jab is still under an EUA? Why did the FDA approve Comirnaty instead which, oddly, won't be available until 2023 or 2024? Do you think it's gonna take Pfizer two to three years to make a label change? Or do they still require indemnity.

The guy on the left used to work for the FDA and was responsible for overseeing Pfizer. The guy on the right (who bears a remarkable resemblance to the guy on the left) now works on the board of directors at Pfizer. Can you say, conflict of interest?
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And how is the jab doing? Oh right.. It's great, isn't it? Get vaxxed and we can get back to normal, right? Oh wait, you'll need an annual booster. Except pResident Joe is now saying you need the booster every 8 months. Other "experts" are saying every 6 months. Some say 5. At this rate, we'll need a booster every other week. How frequently do you want to be injected with a substance from a company against which you can't take legal action? In true democrat form...when something isn't working, it's because we're not doing enough of it. The gene therapy is failing miserably, BTW. It's next to useless against the delta variant. Natural immunity is far more effective.

Have you sat back and thought about how the gov't and health agencies have lied about covid every step of the way since they fabricated the story about bat soup at the wet market?

The beauty of this is you haven't explained yourself at all. You lack the capability to understand the science or the politics. To compensate, you throw out insults. You say you don't care if people like me get vaccinated or not, but it sure is funny watching you get worked up over it. And you talk about how our actions might end up harming others. Marxist talk is always about serving the greater good, yet never does.

Does the jab prevent you from contracting the virus? No. Does the jab prevent you from spreading the virus? No. The viral load among the "vaccinated" can be just as high or higher than the "unvaccinated" with a significant difference. Those who received the jab can be asymptomatic and yet still very infectious - spreading the disease without even realizing it. You can become a super spreader. So what about the moment YOU start harming others? Of course, that's assuming the gene therapy hasn't already caused irreparable harm or death.

Ahhh, the difference a year makes.
Remember, once the digital vaccine passports are rolled out across the world, freedom as we know it will be over. It's the last stand.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
"Freedom" from masks and "freedom" from vaccines leads to this! 👇

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doong · 56-60, M
@Harriet03 It was a Car accident
I trust the government as much as the ppl of Tuskegee
gol979 · 46-50, M
akindheart · 70-79, F
doong · 56-60, M
Yes, it's very safe. Even for the virus it self.
Congrats.
Confined · 56-60, M
I used to take this drug.
I was told it was 100% safe

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I bet these vaccines will be pulled in time as well.
gol979 · 46-50, M
The same gov that brought us Tuskegee Study 👍
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Yes, the vaccines we use in the states are quite safe.
Subsumedpat · 41-45, M
They are safer than the covid that is for sure.
Quetzalcoatlus · 46-50, M
Safer than horse de-worming shots..
MarineBob · 61-69, M
@Quetzalcoatlus I trust my vet
BalmyNites · F
@MarineBob Yep, veterinarians are legally qualified to treat human beings, however a GP may not treat an animal, it is an offence to do so 😊
TexChik · F
Or such a quick FDA approval , even though the FDA doesn’t require their people to take it . If it were so safe why do they go to the trouble to bullshit us? They already have diagnostic insurance codes for all the issues resulting from the “ gene therapy” .
TexChik · F
@newjaninev2 take my dose too, and STFU. A young associate of mine just suffered a stroke 3 days after taking the vax. He was in perfect health before that incident and complained of "not feeling right" an hour after getting his shot. I'm sure you know it all libs have made up just the right answer for it. While my doctor isnt confident with it. There are treatments for the infection. Taking an unproven vax is not working.

And why would a vaccine be affecting telomere length? All older people have shorter telomere lengths in their chromosomes.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@TexChik
why would a vaccine be affecting telomere length?

It doesn’t... that’s the whole point

The shorter telomere length is detrimental for a patient infected with covid-19. Nothing to do with the vaccine.

Some younger people have short telomere length. As I said, the common thread between older people and younger people who both have short telomere length appears to be lymphopenia, and both those groups have elevated risk of death from covid-19

The biomarker is lymphopenia
TexChik · F
@newjaninev2 says you. Doctors believe it is.
You aren’t vaccinated??
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@MarineBob you are a good man
Elessar · 31-35, M
They're safer than the alternative, because ever since they're being delivered me and many others are no longer seeing relatives and friends getting hospitalised or f*cked up pretty bad.

Simple as that.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Should we institute mandatory intelligence tests for people wanting to be sarcastic?

 
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