All three vaccines are safe

@Gangstress so controlling! Makes me angry.

@Gangstress sorry to be a pendant but please give clinical evidence for the worse symptoms claim.

All phe published reports are the opposite. Majority of hospitalised and dead currently are unvaccinated.

The general accepted clinical evidence is that with a vaccine liklihood of serious illness is massively reduced. Not eliminated as that can never be stated in almost any treatment

@OldBrit if completely honest. This is from friends and family who have had vaccines and feel worse.
I don't really look at the statistics.
Now if 9 of my family and friends are going through worst symptoms then before vaccined.
I get what you are saying. Absolutely. But i think we should have a choice.

@Gangstress but are they experiencing delta vs beta? They are comparing eggs and handbags with respect

@OldBrit thanks for calling my friends and family thick.

I won't forget that pal

@Gangstress I don't think I did. That was never my intention. my point was you need clinical evidence. Was the strain they had sequenced before vaccination was an antibody test done post vaccination was the strain on second infection sequenced. That's why the wide range clinical studies are important to teach us what really is happening objectively

I believe studies already show for some groups secondary infection is predominantly worse symptoms which shows again the importance of vaccination as it could be a lot lot worse.

I say that having attended a funeral two weeks ago of someone who had it last year so didn't need the vaccine. Caught it second time and sadly was dead on days.

@OldBrit im sorry you've had death rear its ugly head 😔

@OldBrit There has never, ever been one isolated C19 virus found in existence. The genomes were compiled with computer software simulation. How can one possibly say there is a “variant” or even distinguish from one to another?


“I don't think I did. That was never my intention. my point was you need clinical evidence. Was the strain they had sequenced before vaccination was an antibody test done post vaccination was the strain on second infection sequenced. That's why the wide range clinical studies are important to teach us what really is happening objectively”

What you just wrote is laughable rubbish. This is your real “science”. Did you reread that......

@OldBrit Surely, you were writing that, seated in a pub!

@Oster1 love you ❤

@Gangstress Gangstress, I love you so much and I always will!

I can’t stand to see you hurt. Remember that day in school when I gave you my ice cream and offered to punch that bully in the nose, for you?

Well, I deeply loved you back then too! 🤗🤗🥰😘❤️🍦💐

@Oster1 🥺 my hero ❤

You're so awesome 👌 I remember that day well. You even gave me your jacket to shelter me from the rain 🌧. A true knight 🤗🤗 and so glad I can you my friend ❤ 🤗🤗🤗💚

You have an amazing day today my friend 🤗🤗🤗❤🤗😘

@Gangstress OMG! Yes, the jacket. You were the cutest girl in
school and when it started raining, I looked at you and saw this
beautiful Princess, standing there with an expression that would melt, even the coldest and hardest of hearts.

That was always my dutiful and protective love for you. I never lost that feeling for you, to this day! I am so grateful to call you my friend. Thank you, for those wonderful memories. That was great!

Awwww, that just meant so much to me!!!😊🌷

May you have an amazing Thursday too!
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@Oster1 first I don't drink alcohol I've been in recovery for years

Second here is the original paper of the first sequencing via isolation from a Wuhan resident.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2008-3

If you read this that is why it was named SARS-COV-2 as it shows its genetic similarity with the SARS virus.

Also we isolate and sequence hundreds of samples daily in the UK alone that's how they identify and monitor the spread of variants

@OldBrit Even the UK does not have an isolated Covid virus example.

CDC doesn’t either. It’s not in existence. There is no way to determine a variant without a source. I have read and seen this explained many, many times by Doctors, Researchers and Scientists. I do not care what you know. Many professionals are coming out. The CEO of Pfizer, refuses to take it! Believe what you want too! I will agree to disagree.

@Oster1 ok I think we need a bit virology lessons here.

A virus is not a bacteria so the Koch premise is impossible. A virus only ever exists inside a host cell. That's how they exist.

The CEO of Pfizer has taken it. I worked for Pfizer for 20 years.

@OldBrit Hmm, I wonder why he was not allowed into Israel recently.

I saw him say it himself. Most viruses are “carried” on a bacteria.

This all has changed as most science does. I think you may need the virology lessons and excuse me, but I question your employment at Pfizer for anytime. I have read so many of your comments and know the score of this match, ok? Good day.

@Oster1 That was a rubbish story on Facebook

See here Albert's tweet the day he received his second dose



I won't engage with you any more if you're going to throw insults about - I know where and when worked, in what capacity and my connections still there and throughout the healthcare industries.

@OldBrit I saw him say he would not take it. I have it here somewhere

Anybody can do a photo op, taking a saline injection. The “fact checkers” all came out instantly together with the same script. Started again, second week this month. You believe what you want too.

Show me where is there an isolated c19 virus, from an infected patient.

Do you disagree with bacteria transportation of a virus?

You have proven nothing for a someone working in the business.

Thank you for not engaging. I have read so many of your comments and you are extremely arrogant and disrespectful to people, Don’t play the victim when you try to be superior and talk down to people, like you did to my sweet friend. That is why, I jumped in. I have seen enough of you.
You have done me a favor. Please let us know when you get the third, fourth, fifth booster shots, etc.. Good day and tally ho!

@Oster1 That's Albert - I know him.

That's his verified Twitter address - note the tick

@OldBrit In all respects, I did not deny the validity of the photo.
I questioned the contents of the syringe and which has been seen
many times, in other dignitaries.

Not all Medical Professionals, Researchers and Scientists have taken the shot. Fauci said maybe 50% of the CDC has. I saw that!

If you are a Pfizer affiliate, how about the retired Chief Scientist that has warned against people taking it.

Tell me about prions, spiked proteins, ADE, cytokine storms, pathogenic transmissibility, etc I see overwhelming evidence that perhaps the real danger will be how an immune system will backfire after the inoculations
and turn against other organs and also to other people. There is no denying this.

How come you never bring this up! I have never seen it. Is it not you are aware or perhaps a nice pharmaceutical portfolio.

Respectfully, this is why I have my doubts but yeah, I’m just a conspiracy theorist.

@Oster1 I know Mike - he was a very respected scientist in his field. When I knew him a man who looked at, examined and accepted evidence. He was a man who'd tell me to go find real evidence, get it peer reviewed and return to him when I had.

You know that he has withdrawn from public Covid commentating now? He was repeatedly challenged by my ex colleagues on Twitter over his claims. There was an open letter from his old team to a journal denouncing his claims. There is a sad summary of his fall from grace here https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/special-report-ex-pfizer-scientist-who-became-an-anti-vax-hero-2021-03-18/

I don't know what has happened to him in the last 10 years but he isn't the scientist I remember respecting.

@OldBrit I have read and seen all of the reputation destruction and the inverted “facts”. Most have a will to live. You couldn’t be that naive. “They” got to him and silenced him, with the MSM help. I don’t believe the fake news. They lie.

Pfizer gene therapy was not FDA approved either. Please tell me that story. That was another deceptive lie.

I don’t want to harass you. I asked very valid questions in my last reply.

They are never answered. Why? I thought I needed basic classes.

All diversionary tactics.

@Oster1 it is not by most rational description gene therapy. As it does not, and can not modify your DNA. Explain to me the mechanism by which the mRNA causes DNA alterations?

He was under attack from old colleagues who saw a once respected friend look an idiot

@OldBrit I will be glad to but you never answer my questions.