I don't understand Christianity

Why is it when God is mentioned everyone who doesn't believe has to act like a two year old throwing their toys out of the pram. They want to insult everyone who believes and change their minds. It makes me laugh. I bet if us believers insulted their religion of sex they wouldn't like it too much. Yet so many are so quick to air their dirty laundry here I've seen it. I've had many come to my inbox and try to steer conversation in that sexual direction because I'm a woman. We are just minding our own business worshipping the Lord. Whilst they try to push their disgusting habits all over this website. Really who is worse?

Religion, broadly makes a lot more sense when you consider it as a sociological & psychosocial phenomenon rather than as some kind of investigation into cosmic truth. Even the idea of Heaven and Hell only really makes sense when you consider it as a tactic for inducting new followers and consolidating support. Ancient spiritual leaders realized long ago -- one way or another -- that it's really easy to think yourself into a terror, and that it's entirely possible to induce this phenomenon artificially. Essentially, they found a deep-seated weakness in the human psyche that turned out to be highly exploitable.

How Christians Turn People Away From God!
by Mike Edwards


There are thousands of reasons people believe or not believe in God. One may believe just because their parents do. One may not believe because of God’s lack of intervention in such an evil world. Research is available online why Christians become atheists (deconvert) or why Christians leave the institutional church but not God (disaffiliate). What can Christians control to not deter those who may want more of a relationship with God but don’t pursue because of unnecessary obstacles?

Lies About God!

I am convinced many may not pursue a relationship with a Creator because they believe lies others claim about God. I know “lies” is a strong word, but no one can claim with certainty their view of an invisible, inaudibly God is TRUTH! Most would agree a God who isn’t perfect isn’t worth believing in. We can only compare God’s love to perfect human love. My moral intuitions tell me a loving God couldn’t condemn gays for choices they can no more control than straights; God couldn’t discriminate again women by denying them equal roles with men which has encouraged centuries of domestic abuse and other atrocities women face; God couldn’t create a place such as Hell to torture unbelievers forever. See here.

Christians with a hidden agenda or mission is a turn-off.

It is wrong to engage in friendships for the purpose of converting them to your beliefs without advising upfront this is your agenda. We must stop being so damn certain and do more listening. We can’t prove God exist. If God truly exists, wouldn’t God be capable of convincing individuals on Their own. Engage in relationships both to love and be loved. Discussions about God best come up naturally. The sinner’s prayer to avoid Hell isn’t in the Bible. Jesus seemed on a difference mission according to the Bible. See here.

Christians have a problem — it’s how the Bible is viewed.

It is believed or implied biblical writers somehow magically got their words and thoughts directly from God. Such an unprovable process implies God approved everything written about God in the Bible. Many don’t accept the God of the Bible for good reason:

God supposedly would send wild animals to kill the children of the disobedient (Lev. 26:22)
God supposedly orders the murder of women, children, infants, and animals in war (I Sam. 15:3)
God supposedly ordered killing boys and non-virgin women but sparing virgins for the warriors (Num. 31:18)
God supposedly approved rebellious children put to death (Lev. .20:9)
God supposedly approves a wife’s hand being cut off when grabbing another man’s genitals (Deut. 25:12)
The Bible can be viewed as recorded experiences of beginnings with God and Israel culminating with the life of Jesus that we don’t possess in any other documents. God didn’t necessarily have in mind that recordings wouldn’t be questioned or that writers had perfect views of God. We have every right to question interpretations suggesting a Creator doesn’t love how we were created to love others. We must use our moral, loving sense. You can see my railings about the Bible HERE.

Evil and God just don’t mix sometimes.

God’s inactiveness with so much evil in the world is one reason many are atheists. Why doesn’t a supposedly all-powerful God intervene more? How is God allowing evil any different than a parent who stands by and watches this child being sexually abused? Let’s stop rationalizing by saying God’s evil is sometimes good. Maybe God can’t control or violate freedom and love perfectly. Divine love limits divine power. Maybe God can only stop evil with the help of others freely helping. See God Can’t by Thomas Oord.

Similarly, promises Christians make about prayer turns many away. The truth is miracles are rare. Maybe God is already doing all they can in a free world, by working through individual lives to change the world. Maybe prayer is more about a relationship with God as we attempt to change the world together. It seems God creating freedom necessitates one being able to do as much harm as they can do good. Authenticity, the highest good in relationships, is impossible without freedom. God, like parents, had a choice — to not create or create knowing suffering was a possibility in the pursuit of intimacy.

I’m not so sure hypocrisy is a big stumbling block.

It doesn’t help that Christians don’t get along, as evidenced by the tens of thousands of denominations, all claiming their beliefs are the right ones. The truth is that we all are hypocrites. What human being lives up to the standards they know in their heart are honorable? But it is reasonable to expect those who talk about God to act godly. As mentioned possible hypocritical beliefs, supposedly according to the Bible, present a challenge. Christians must avoid claiming certainty, especially when such views seem to go against our moral intuitions.

Other challenges to not get in God’s way with individuals exist in the research. The church seems so focused on certain beliefs, such as sexual purity, rather than focusing on helping those less fortunate. Why can’t we focus less on sexual behaviors and more on the homeless? Abuse by leadership representing God surely turns others away from God. Sexual abuse is too often sweep under the rug. Most Christians believe God’s spirit works in the lives of people. If Christians want others inclined to consider their God, control what you can to not interfere with God’s work.

https://donewthreligion.medium.com/how-christians-turn-people-away-from-god-a73654971d2f

Redredred wants me to be ashamed of the wisdom and philosophy that the Hopi culture brings to me.

Hey redredred your gaslighting tactics won't work on me, I'm proud to be a Hopi indian and nothing can't stop me or get me away from my culture.

My stepfather abused me, threatened me and it didn't stop me, and your online abuse won't stop me either.

I'm Hopi and the word Hopi means peace. Peace is the wisdom my tribe brought.

I'm the child of Mother Earth and Father Sky and the whole universe, the whole world is my family and all things are connected to each other. We are all one made from the same great mystery energy of the universe, we are stardust having a human form. All life and all things are connected, we are all one cosmic family entangled from the same cosmic web aka the quantum field.



We are all basically waves from the same
eternal cosmic ocean, when we die we will dissolve back into the cosmic ocean again. Our energy will be recycled into another one form and another.

My philosophy is between idealist Dualism and panpsychism.

Peace and I hope you find happiness and stop crapping on the people you disagree with. Thank you and aho. May you find peace with Mother Earth and Father Universe. We are all one family, we are all the children of the same essence and stardust of the big bang.

Remember~ We are all eternally connected since the big bang. The universe is eternal and will continue to have infinite big bangs forever.

So remember have respect for your fellow human, animal, plant and cosmic brothers and sisters. We are all the children of Mother Earth, Father Sky, Brother Sun and sister moon and also the children of the whole cosmos.


Without the wind we will all die

Without the Sun we will all die

Without the Moon we will all die

Without the rain we will all die

Without the soil we will all die.

Without the whole Universe and it's energy we wouldn't be alive.

All the elements of nature are essential for all life to thrive, if we don't take care of the Earth and the atmosphere we will all die.


The energy that powers our bodies indirectly comes from the Sun from eating plants and other animals.

The Sun is the source of energy and ATP of our bodies and the stars are the source of the elements that make up our bodies so we are basically solar powered stardust made alive from the energy of the universe.

You can call this BS and began to crap on me. You may hate the philosophy of spirituality and wisdom.

Also quantum mechanics and spirituality have more things common with each other than you think.

My spirituality is seeing myself connected to all things in the universe/multiverse and that all that lives and everything is my family and that I will always be part of them like they will always be a part of me and when after I die I will eventually become part of everything. I will become part of the grass, part of the flowers, part of the mountains, part of the Sun, part of the rain, part of the beautiful rainbow, part of the moon, and part of the whole universe and all that makes it.

Sounds poetic, but according to science we've all heard that energy cannot be created or destroyed but only transformed from one form to another.

So we're all basically eternal energy that will always be part of the universe/multiverse and that will all know that energy never dies and cannot be created or destroyed, the universe/multiverse is bascially eternal it transforms itself from one form to another forever from big bang after big bang.


I wish nothing but peace and wisdom to you redredred, don't spread hate spread love, love is the answer not hate. Get rid of your bigotry towards your fellow man and woman and see yourself part of this amazing eternal cosmos.

Remember we are one family, we are all connected, love one another and treat everyone as your family, spread love and compassion for that's what we're made of and what we will return to.

Peace and love hope you find peace 🕊️ and stop the hate there's enough hate in this world, we are all family.

When we are born again the Holy Spirit comes in to our heart and we are changed forever.


The Bible is in its originality. We know that since just a few years ago the dead sea scrolls were found and it is the same as 6000 year old Bible. Also thousands of prophesies have come true so we know it is true, and Gods word. I have tested the promises and I know they are true.

Most people do not go to heaven, true. God only saved Noah and his wife and three kids and their mates 8 people. All others he drowned because of unbelief. Noah trusted in God without knowing the name of Jesus. Jesus and the Father are one God. God has shared that "the firmament declares his Glory" so we are all without excuse, even if we never heard of Jesus.


Do we deserve eternal hell? The Bible does not talk about "hell". It is possible that there is just death for the unbelievers, and there is also a possibility that there's a new earth where people will really regret not being more obedient to God, even if they have eternal life. I am not sure what the next life will be like, but I don't take any chances. I want to love the Lord with all my heart, mind, and soul.
You just have to ask God for the truth, he will show you. I did, and he changed my life. Jesus is my provider, my helper, my healer.
Jesus said "I am the way, the life, and the truth, no one comes to The Father but through me"

No. They did not go to hell for what they couldn't have known, but Jesus ministered to them later.

People don't go to hell for not knowing, and Jesus doesn't send people to hell, anyway. He came to save, not condemn. It is only unforgiven sin and rejection of wanting nothing to do with God's plan of salvation, by their own choice, that they miss heaven. Sin.....not God..... keeps one separated from God and condemned UNTIL we ask Jesus to forgive us of our sins and to be our Savior.

All the different religions in this world, have absolutely nothing to do with salvation. Nothing. Neither does spirituality. Even Satan is spiritual, but he's not going to heaven. Satan believes in God, but it takes more than head knowledge. Some make this way harder than it has to be. Fact is, we're all in the same spiritual boat....in need of Jesus to save us from the condemnation and consequences SIN brought on us. Religion of any type cannot save us...period. Religion is only man-made philosophy. Religion didn't die on the cross to save us from our sins. Jesus did...and He clearly said, so we wouldn't have to GUESS about how to have eternal life in heaven, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. NO MAN can come to my Father, except by Me."Jesus was approved and appointed by God the Father, himself, to be the Savior of the world. Not any other god. Jesus said you can try it your way, but it won't lead you to heaven. And yes, we may all learn and grow differently, but Jesus said there's only one way to heaven, and who better to know, than the One who has been there?

If any want answers to life, then Jesus said we have only to look to the Source of Truth, God's Word. If we're puzzled about life or need direction, God gave us His Word, a spiritual blueprint for Life, so we wouldn't HAVE to guess about the answers. There are absolutely no contradictions in God's Word. Only people who wish to twist its truths. Man is fallible...not God, whose nature and character is that He is perfect....incapable of lying. Bottom line is...we either believe and take Him at His Word, or we don't. The sinfulness of this world, shows us why we need a Savior, and why would we need any of the other millions of so-called gods, when only ONE is needed and was appointed to be the Savior of this world? It only takes one to save us. Jesus not only said He loves us...He proved it, when He died on the cross to pay for our sins. Mankind has SIN in his nature. So how can sin forgive itself??? We don't HAVE that kind of power nor authority over the spiritual world....but Jesus does!

Even if man COULD save himself, tell me....how will he find his way to heaven, without Jesus to take him there? Man doesn't even know where heaven is or how to get there, and even if he could get there, he still couldn't walk through heaven's gates, with unforgiven sin in him. Sin can't enter heaven, or it wouldn't BE heaven, and Jesus being without sin, is the only One worthy enough to forgive us our sins. Stated in John 3:16, 17, and 18. I will take God's Word over man's, ANY day. And the minute Jesus forgives us, he sends His Holy Spirit to live within us, as evidence/proof that we have received Jesus as Savior, and that we are reunited with our Father in heaven and have the promise of eternal life.

I hope you won't pay any attention to these negative, hateful statements from people who don't know what they're talking about. God is very real and He saved my own daughter from dying and He's loved by millions around the world, who know Him and have experienced Him and His miracles. Jesus loves you more than words could ever say. Unconditionally.

@heyitsemma First of all, according to the biblical fairytale no one will spend eternity in hell. When you die you go to one of three places = death, the sea, or to hell. All three are temporary and everyone makes bail on Judgment Day. At that time death and hell are tossed into the lake of fire and the sea ceases to exist. Everyone is judged and if their names are written in the Book of Life they are given eternal life, even if they have been in hell. Those who are not listed in the Book of Life get tossed into the lake of fire, which is the second death. They cease to exist.

If you are a member of one of the twelve tribes of Israel you get to spend eternity in the 1,500 mile-sided golden cube called New Jerusalem. All others get to spend eternity outside the wall that surrounds the golden cube.

When you think about spending eternity in hell you are thinking about the Islamic version. In that fairytale when you die you stay dead until Judgment Day when you are resurrected. The good guys get their own individual paradises with two ninety-foot tall translucent women creatures, a harem of women, and a herd of cute boys. The guy has an eternal erection. Most of the people in the Islamic hell are women and if you are there you will be tortured for eternity. So, know your hells and heavens.

According to Romans 2:12-16 (MKJV) = "12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel."

So, if you're good you are good and if you are bad, you are bad.

Christianity is many things but it is essentially a race-based religion that says that you have to believe in a Jew in order to have eternal life. That makes Jews the premier ethnic group on the planet. People like it because it allows them to gain power, prestige, and control over their more superstitious buddies. Protestant ministers like it because they can run individual churches as private businesses and get rich, if they do it right. The Catholic priests like it because they get to wear fancy robes and act as superior people. The average person likes it because they want to live forever in a beautiful heaven.

God did not entrust His Word to just anyone. He gave it to holy men of old. Second Timothy 3:16 tells us that the Bible was “breathed out” by God. While using their own writing styles and personalities, they still recorded exactly what God intended. The Bible was perfectly guided and entirely inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Humanly speaking, the Bible was written by approximately 40 men of diverse backgrounds over the course of 1500 years. Isaiah was a prophet, Ezra was a priest, Matthew was a tax-collector, John was a fisherman, Paul was a tentmaker, Moses was a shepherd, Luke was a physician. Despite being penned by different authors over 15 centuries, the Bible does not contradict itself and does not contain any errors. The authors all present different perspectives because obviously, they each had their own personalities and styles of writing, yet they all proclaim the same one true God, and the same one way of salvation—Jesus Christ (John 14:6; Acts 4:12).

I'm a Catholic, one of the oldest versions of the faith. I do not take the Bible literally, as it was never meant to be taken literally. I subscribe to science, as well as faith. For example, who is to say, that string theory and parallel universe theory, multiverse theory etc cannot coexist with a creator? I do not take Genesis literally, it's metaphorical. God could exist beyond the multiverse. We'd never know. That's faith. For all we know, the entire Greek Pantheon exists in some parallel universe. But I usually attribute the ancient pagan faiths to explaining natural events and superstition. Because after all, noone knew the science of thunder and lightning back then (Zeus), noone knew what the Sun actually was (Amon-Ra, Huitzilopochtli).

My belief is that the Old Testament and New Testament is about the one true God.

Do you really believe that religious people don't ask and answer these questions? But seeking answers in an online forum is like asking an astronomer to explain the origins of the universe in two paragraphs.

If you'd like answers to your questions, choose to engage in a mature and thoughtful search.

God's laws were given before Jesus was around. Second question look at 2 Corinthians 6 14-17 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you. Meaning we are to be separate from those who do not believe so that God will welcome us. Meaning a non believer will go to hell. Question 3 no I do not call myself a Christian. Why? Because although I believe and follow God I do not like to judge others as many people do who are Christian. I accept that others have different beliefs and that's their right. I do not try to change their beliefs. I in fact will not express mine unless questions are asked like here. However I do believe that God's word is truth. However I also want to add that God is both loving and forgiving so anyone at any time can experience his grace and mercy if they repent of their sins. Which is simple just pray and ask. People tend to think God is all about judgement and sending people to hell. But God is also love and compassion. I'm by no means an expert on the bible these are just my thoughts.

Not all people take the Bible literally. Jews, for example, study the Old Testament within its historical contest as well as symbolically. And many Christian denominations, including the largest one - the Roman Catholic Church - doesn't take the Bible literally. You're referring to a few Protestant denominations who claim to take the Bible literally when in fact they're merely applying a modern political interpretation to it.

I still like to think of myself as a Christian. I don’t just take the Bible “literally”, but as I was taught in college, I try to understand it through the “three worlds”: historical, literary, and contemporary. Most of the rest of your issues simply disappear if, like I did, you stop believing in the existence of hell. There’s no particular need to believe in it, the Bible doesn’t say much about it. The contemporary fire and brimstone image of hell originated in Dante’s Inferno. Jesus died on the cross for everyone’s sins. If you have to say a prayer accepting Christ to get to Heaven, then Christ didn’t save you, you saved yourself! So I’m kind of thinking maybe just everyone goes to Heaven when they die.

I've never understood it either nearly all the books were found to have been written about 70-100 years after his death. So I think it's a bunch of non-sense. Also how is a 2,000 year old book mostly letters about someone, which is hearsay, still considered a primary source grow up I say.

If the bible is just made up stories to "control the masses", they sure would have tried to do a lot better job than that. lol And forget about the ludicrous myth from people who hate Christians and God, that we're out to convince people or use scare tactics. There would be no gain, so that's nonsense.

Since Jesus finished His mission on earth, and over 500 people saw Him ascend into the heavens to return to His Father, before He left this earth, He commissioned all His followers to spread the Good News of salvation through Christ, to the world, so they wouldn't have to guess how to get to heaven and live with Jesus for eternity. This information was passed on through the generations. And God set the standard, not man, so that is why we are happy to spread His gospel, as He asked. Especially after all He has done for us. It's not our job to convince anyone. That is the Holy Spirit's job, to speak to people's hearts, then let them decide for themselves if they wish to accept Jesus as Savior or not. We're only sharing His message with others, who ask questions, like yourself and thank you for your interest. Jesus said before He comes back, every person will have the chance to hear the gospel. And there's some who just don't understand the gospel. Maybe they have a mental handicap/disability or passed at an early age? They'll not miss heaven. Jesus knows us better than we know ourselves. And He wants no one to miss heaven. He never turns those away, who wish to come to Him. He doesn't even make that decision for us. He is loving, gentle, and caring. No one loves us more than Jesus.

Christianity’s “real agenda”, is Jesus' real agenda.... to reunite God and man once again. To put us in the correct relationship with God. That is the most foundational aspect of the Bible. God's truth always sets us free. That is the whole purpose of it. No longer slaves to sin.

@ heyitsemma, regarding your questions

maybe the answer can be found in Romans 2:11-15 (ERV) =
"11 God judges everyone the same. It doesn’t matter who they are.

12 People who have the law and those who have never heard of the law are all the same when they sin. People who don’t have the law and are sinners will be lost. And, in the same way, those who have the law and are sinners will be judged by the law. 13 Hearing the law does not make people right with God. They will be right before him only if they always do what the law says.

14 Those who are not Jews don’t have the law. But when they naturally do what the law commands without even knowing the law, then they are their own law. This is true even though they don’t have the written law. 15 They show that in their hearts they know what is right and wrong, the same as the law commands, and their consciences agree. Sometimes their thoughts tell them that they have done wrong, and this makes them guilty. And sometimes their thoughts tell them that they have done right, and this makes them not guilty."

Remember, when Eve & Adam ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, they then knew as much as God himself about what was good and what was evil. I'm sure you know the difference. Even the most evil person knows when he is being evil but it is sometimes more difficult to know if you are being truly good.

It is a mistake to rely upon the Bible to tell you the difference because it contains lots of examples where God told people to do some very evil things. Chances are if you do bad things in today's society you will end up in prison. It may not be hell but it is very close to it.

The Bible says that there’s not one person who won’t have the chance… Whether God reveals himself to them in death, in dreams, or while they’re alive… and by what means who’s to say.. Everyone has a unique and individualistic life in which they lead… But it says everyone will have made a choice…

And that’s all it is.. A choice. Like everything else in life.

And the Bible also says people will be shocked at who makes it to heaven and who does not…

Many of these mega church pastors are not going to make it into heaven, ironically, despite their following and having so many people listening to their sermons etc.. The Bible warns about them fleecing the sheep… And the day of judgement when they will say “but lord, lord! We did this in YOUR name and that in YOUR name..” and he will say “Get away from me you workers of iniquity, I never knew you..” Just because someone says they’re of God, or claims to be holy does not make them so… a lot of those tithes and offerings that is the churches responsibility to help the world, and do good for people.. and instead they bought themselves mansions and private jets.. Salvation is a free gift… And how many souls have been deterred from accepting God by these snakes and vipers and liars examples? When the world has seen their hypocrisies both brazen and so openly recognizable..

The best thing you can do is answer your own questions… Open the book and study it for yourself…

And the only time books have been rewritten is by other denominations adding or taking away to fit their narratives… Outside of that the original scrolls have never been rewritten..

There is nothing to understand. Made up stories to control the masses. Nothing more

@redredred quantum physics where spirituality and science meets.

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Science and spirituality is more connected than you think, don't let mainstream organized religious theocratic extremists make you link the philosophy of the essence of reality and mind to the same level as them.

Religion divides people and spirituality connects us to each other and the whole universe.

Religion sends bombs, Spirituality brings wisdom and connection to each other and the Universe and science sends us to the stars to explore the Universe.


Unknown- "Science without wisdom is vain and wisdom without science is stupid".


Knowledge and science needs wisdom to survive. Without wisdom it's vain and cold.


The lack of wisdom and ethics in science gave us Atomic bombs, guns, lack of respect for nature and materialistic thinking and horrific inhumane experiments like the Tuskegee experiment and human zoos.


Science gave us good things and it also gave us bad things.

Science gave us good things like antibiotics, vaccines and the wheel but it also gave us bad things like atomic bombs and guns.

https://www.livescience.com/13002-7-evil-experiments.html


Science has a dark side too.

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DDT was once used until it was banned by the EPA.

I believe the idea is to have faith. We don't have all the answers.

- Jesus was around just over 2000 years ago, so did everyone before then who didn't know about this religion go straight to hell?

Scare tactic used to convert more people and they can claim they "saved" you.

- What about people who don't accept jesus into their lives because they havn't heard much about Christianity or grew up in a different religion? Do they deserve an eternity in hell?

Again this is why they go and attempt to convert people and "save" them. More people = more money. There is no such places as heaven or hell. This is a scare tactic used by religions to get people to behave how they want them to.

- If you are Christian, why? And are you open to other truths? Or do you believe the bible is the only truth?

I am no longer a Christian and left due to the rampant hypocrisy and sexual abuse by the churches. No, I am not open to other religions as I see them as all being the same.

I would love to share this true story with you of how God saved my pastor's life.

https://similarworlds.com/christianity/4254601-What-started-as-a-tragic-suicide-ended-in-a-life

Sweet lady, if you have any other questions, feel free to private message me.

Did everyone go to hell before Jesus? No God says "The firmament declares his Glory, noone is without excuse" And hell? I am not sure what that entales. I know God says "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, so that whosoever believes in him will not perish, but have everlasting life." It is definitely a hard life to not be a christian, because God does not hear your prayers. But there is maybe just death after life for the ingodly? We don't know exactly.

God says people do not believe because of their sins. Jesus paid for everyones sins with his own blood!

We are called to go into all the world and preach the gospel, so that's why I do. God saves, not me.

Am I open to other religions? No absolutely not! I was a big skeptic as a child but God saved me and took me out of darkness to his glorious light. You can read about the miraclesin my 5th post, all that God has done for me. He answers all my prayers, more than I can even imagine! I love Jesus soooo much! My life is good now!

"A child is not a Christian child, not a Muslim child, but a child of Christian parents or a child of Muslim parents. This latter nomenclature, by the way, would be an excellent piece of consciousness-raising for the children themselves. A child who is told she is a 'child of Muslim parents' will immediately realize that religion is something for her to choose -or reject- when she becomes old enough to do so.”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

Parts of the Bible are much older than 2000 years old. It has not been re written or re interpreted multiple times. Its core message has been the same since the time before the pharaohs of Egypt.

@ Ferise1

The Bible is a collection of ancient ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairy tales but I doubt if any Jews were involved in the committee that wrote the actual Bible as we know it in the 680s-early 690s that was based in England.

A question for the ages is why non-Jews give the Bible any credence when it is all about the Jews and not about the Gentiles. It makes as much sense as an Inuit believing in the ethnocentric Arabian religious fairy tale in the Koran.

The END of the Bible was written a little over 2k years ago, the original letters and copies of them are still there, there was no rewriting, just many translations to English, most of the recent of which are twisted (KJV and earlier are faithful, a few since are too such as Young's Literal Translation from 1998)

Jesus (Yahusha) died and rose again a little over 2k years ago, the law of God was given far before this, and Jesus preached to those who were long dead when he was dead for 3 days

All of us deserve Hell, many are called but few are chosen; the gospel has been preached all over the world, anyone who doesn't know doesn't want to, though many of us try to tell anyone who has ears to hear

The simple phrase "other truth" implies subjective reality, and that has been scientifically disproven in general; anyone believing such is simply uneducated or unstable. I believed in sincerity because of what I felt when I was at a work camp and we sang praise at night and ate together, not an emotion but a fire amidst the people, and I believe now because God has done great things before my eyes and by the spirit of God I have cast demons out of several people, he has shown many miracles in front of me

What's important to know about this, is that Jesus lived! And de died. And Lived Again. 😇🙏🙏💞

@Fukfacewillie As it says in Titus 1:13-14 (NLT) =
"13 This is true. So reprimand them sternly to make them strong in the faith. 14 They must stop listening to Jewish myths and the commands of people who have turned away from the truth
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People like to claim that they believe in the Bible. If they do, why do they ignore that passage?

@Ferise1 Thanks for the kind words but I doubt if I'm really intelligent. There might be 100,000,000 intelligent humans on the planet out of nearly eight billion but I wouldn't classify myself as one of them. I'm smart enough to function fairly well in the 21st century and even have a high IQ (135+) but I'm not truly intelligent.

Some perspective and I'm not Christian, but the old testament, prior to Jesus was much much more strict. One would say Jesus modernized Christianity in that time? Yet, I just think of them as stories that hold value for some?

I think people overthink religion. I think not only is there nothing wrong with believing in a higher power but it is actually healthy. We don't need to have all the answers and not everything needs to make sense.

The actual Bible is not that old. The king James version dates to 1611 but the version we actually see; the revised standard version, is from 1952. It is said that there have been more changes to the Bible than there are words in it. I now accept the Bible as an early form of science fiction, (it predates science) and give it kudos for interesting thoughts on morality in a developing civilization. As it does not list lying as a sin one can interpret that as evidence that the entire work is a bit of a tall tale. Put it on the shelf next to Paul Bunyan and the works of Homer. The teachings of Ptahhotep from 2414-2375 BC are much more useful. The writings of Buddha from 600 BC are also worth reading.

The biblical fairytale says that the God character is unchanging. Therefore, the people change him to fit themselves. After all, it's all imaginary.

The Bible does not make this statement.. But a lot of people opposed to Christianity falsely put it forward as being a Biblical teaching..


If people read or hear the message of Jesus and reject it and His gift of salvation they will have eternity in the Lake of Fire.. Accepting His message is accepting Him... Too many think it is just about believing that Jesus exists..


There are truths scattered about in a lot of religions.. The truth is the truth no matter who speaks it or where it comes from.. What sabotages people is the lies that are dispersed among the truth in those religions.. You can have 95% truth but that 5% lies you are believing in will destroy you..

Religion is just made up stuff

To me and IMO, any religion that preaches and spews “it’s our way or no way at all and you’re hell bound otherwise”, is entirely hypocritical to their so called messages of love. Conditional

The Moses character was a real SOB and is a case study for not showing mercy to your enemy's babies. His mother put him in a basket to be eaten by the crocodiles. Pharoah's daughter saw him and raised him. He then became a cowardly murderer. Later on he saw an opportunity to become a bigwig and concocted a BS set of rules that he forced his groupies to follow under penalty of death. He became a master extortionist with dreams of becoming the ruler of his own kingdom. He created the first fully-funded retirement plan for his henchmen.

When you look at his story you see that his first murder broke one of his own BS rules. According to his own rule the guy he murdered had the right to beat the slave. When Moses killed him he made himself a legitimate outlaw and the Pharoah was justified in trying to kill him. Notice that the Egyptian that he murdered did not kill the guy he had been beating.

In the faith that I grew up in the people that didn't receive God's teachings go to some sort of waiting room in heaven until the day of judgement. That's why they have Baptisms for the dead so that those spirits can be cleaned and be worthy of going to heaven.

Sorry to comment on an older thread, but regarding


That statement is just wrong...both with respect to the timeframe and with respect to its provenance.

You might look up the Dead Sea Scrolls to help you understand the integrity of Jewish Scripture (the "Old Testament").

Obviously you don't know about Christianity or the Bible. The last of the Bible was written 2000 years ago the first of the Bible was written thousands of years before that. If you have any questions I will try to help you get clarification

Its all just a story of values views explanations and morals written by humans over thousands of years, what ever religion you believe in.

This is the problem with every religion.