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I don't understand Christianity

- The bible is 2000 years old and has been rewritten and re-interpreted multiple times but people still take it so literally
- Jesus was around just over 2000 years ago, so did everyone before then who didn't know about this religion go straight to hell?
- What about people who don't accept jesus into their lives because they havn't heard much about Christianity or grew up in a different religion? Do they deserve an eternity in hell?
- If you are Christian, why? And are you open to other truths? Or do you believe the bible is the only truth?
Make it make sense
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How Christians Turn People Away From God!
by Mike Edwards


There are thousands of reasons people believe or not believe in God. One may believe just because their parents do. One may not believe because of God’s lack of intervention in such an evil world. Research is available online why Christians become atheists (deconvert) or why Christians leave the institutional church but not God (disaffiliate). What can Christians control to not deter those who may want more of a relationship with God but don’t pursue because of unnecessary obstacles?

Lies About God!

I am convinced many may not pursue a relationship with a Creator because they believe lies others claim about God. I know “lies” is a strong word, but no one can claim with certainty their view of an invisible, inaudibly God is TRUTH! Most would agree a God who isn’t perfect isn’t worth believing in. We can only compare God’s love to perfect human love. My moral intuitions tell me a loving God couldn’t condemn gays for choices they can no more control than straights; God couldn’t discriminate again women by denying them equal roles with men which has encouraged centuries of domestic abuse and other atrocities women face; God couldn’t create a place such as Hell to torture unbelievers forever. See here.

Christians with a hidden agenda or mission is a turn-off.

It is wrong to engage in friendships for the purpose of converting them to your beliefs without advising upfront this is your agenda. We must stop being so damn certain and do more listening. We can’t prove God exist. If God truly exists, wouldn’t God be capable of convincing individuals on Their own. Engage in relationships both to love and be loved. Discussions about God best come up naturally. The sinner’s prayer to avoid Hell isn’t in the Bible. Jesus seemed on a difference mission according to the Bible. See here.

Christians have a problem — it’s how the Bible is viewed.

It is believed or implied biblical writers somehow magically got their words and thoughts directly from God. Such an unprovable process implies God approved everything written about God in the Bible. Many don’t accept the God of the Bible for good reason:

God supposedly would send wild animals to kill the children of the disobedient (Lev. 26:22)
God supposedly orders the murder of women, children, infants, and animals in war (I Sam. 15:3)
God supposedly ordered killing boys and non-virgin women but sparing virgins for the warriors (Num. 31:18)
God supposedly approved rebellious children put to death (Lev. .20:9)
God supposedly approves a wife’s hand being cut off when grabbing another man’s genitals (Deut. 25:12)
The Bible can be viewed as recorded experiences of beginnings with God and Israel culminating with the life of Jesus that we don’t possess in any other documents. God didn’t necessarily have in mind that recordings wouldn’t be questioned or that writers had perfect views of God. We have every right to question interpretations suggesting a Creator doesn’t love how we were created to love others. We must use our moral, loving sense. You can see my railings about the Bible HERE.

Evil and God just don’t mix sometimes.

God’s inactiveness with so much evil in the world is one reason many are atheists. Why doesn’t a supposedly all-powerful God intervene more? How is God allowing evil any different than a parent who stands by and watches this child being sexually abused? Let’s stop rationalizing by saying God’s evil is sometimes good. Maybe God can’t control or violate freedom and love perfectly. Divine love limits divine power. Maybe God can only stop evil with the help of others freely helping. See God Can’t by Thomas Oord.

Similarly, promises Christians make about prayer turns many away. The truth is miracles are rare. Maybe God is already doing all they can in a free world, by working through individual lives to change the world. Maybe prayer is more about a relationship with God as we attempt to change the world together. It seems God creating freedom necessitates one being able to do as much harm as they can do good. Authenticity, the highest good in relationships, is impossible without freedom. God, like parents, had a choice — to not create or create knowing suffering was a possibility in the pursuit of intimacy.

I’m not so sure hypocrisy is a big stumbling block.

It doesn’t help that Christians don’t get along, as evidenced by the tens of thousands of denominations, all claiming their beliefs are the right ones. The truth is that we all are hypocrites. What human being lives up to the standards they know in their heart are honorable? But it is reasonable to expect those who talk about God to act godly. As mentioned possible hypocritical beliefs, supposedly according to the Bible, present a challenge. Christians must avoid claiming certainty, especially when such views seem to go against our moral intuitions.

Other challenges to not get in God’s way with individuals exist in the research. The church seems so focused on certain beliefs, such as sexual purity, rather than focusing on helping those less fortunate. Why can’t we focus less on sexual behaviors and more on the homeless? Abuse by leadership representing God surely turns others away from God. Sexual abuse is too often sweep under the rug. Most Christians believe God’s spirit works in the lives of people. If Christians want others inclined to consider their God, control what you can to not interfere with God’s work.

https://donewthreligion.medium.com/how-christians-turn-people-away-from-god-a73654971d2f
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Spunkylama Want to hear a funny story? Long before you were born the biggest protestant church in Canada asked an avowed atheist what it should do to attract people to the church. The atheist wrote a book called The Comfortable Pew. Guess what. That church is no longer considered Christian. It has a lot of very empty buildings that no one goes to. The clergy is leaving rather than trying to cover multiple parishes.
@hippyjoe1955 Cool story
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Spunkylama Certainly better than the spew you put up. Pleasing people is not a part of Christianity. Too bad your understanding of Christianity is so tainted. As a Christian Pastor I often had to tell people things they didn't want to hear. Sometimes the feelings were hurt so badly the pastoral relationship ended. A few weeks ago I heard of a couple I had pastored who had lost their son to a drug overdose. I had said something so bad they stormed out of the office vowing to never return. Someone went to the funeral and came back to say that in the pictures that were shown were multiple pictures of me and my wife. Maybe we can reconcile. I don't know but hope lasts.
@hippyjoe1955 Sounds like a personal problem.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Spunkylama If you think so. Being a Christian means you stand up for the truth.
@hippyjoe1955 Well what you consider the truth sure. And when other faiths or atheists stand for theirs you get mad as evidenced in this thread.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Spunkylama So you can stand for your faith but Christians can't? What are you afraid of? Truth? Jesus said "I AM The WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE". Seems simple enough.
@hippyjoe1955 I didn't say you can't. I said you got mad when others do.

I am certainly not scared of anything you believe in. Careful watch out for the dragons. ;-)
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Spunkylama You truly are clueless. Very funny in your absolute ignorance but clueless none the less.
@hippyjoe1955 More of that Christian love. I'm sure you are convincing the OP that Christianity is for her.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Spunkylama Calling an ignoramus like you, ignorant is telling the truth . Sucks to be you if you don't like it. Maybe if you were better informed and a lot wiser.
@hippyjoe1955 I'll consider the source.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Spunkylama Ditto.
Lostpoet · M
I think the Pew's are uncomfortable so people don't fall asleep.