I Am An Atheist

@Happygurl was there a few years ago myself. Even now it would be nice if there was a... Something out there that cared for the Earth. But I was desperate so it was easy to mislead me before. I am much harder to convince now. I still like religion as a subject and I think spirituality has benefits. But the rules, dogma and mythology does nothing for me. So I've you ever need to talk I'll listen.

@Carazaa

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In my view they can and i laid out the reasons i think that.
Please treat me fairly, carazaa. These are not excuses i make to dismiss god. These are carefully thought out counter arguments which i have arrived at through contemplation and study. I am just as interested in what is true as you are even if we have not arrived at the same conclusion.

My conclusion is that the sort of things that people use as evidence for god, the sort of things you mentioned are not evidence of god.
I think the impulse to attribute them to a god is a result of the fact that we find these things to be pleasurable and meaningful.

You don't like my conclusions and so you dismiss them wholesale without being able to actually explain where my reasoning is in error.

You have not treated me fairly and you want me to treat you fairly? That is typical of all you atheists.

A sunset is not "Patterns" it is the atmosphere and the world we live in trees, ocean, stars at night, the sun in the morning that warms us, perfect temperatures so we don't die. That is put there by God who loves us. If there was just a few degrees off we die a slow death. This beautiful blue ball of ours is spinning thousands of miles per minute so we can live! This loving God made it just right for us, and He even came to visit us so we can have a relationship with him. We are told to tell people and all we get is grief for that.

@Carazaa

I'm sorry you feel that way. How do you feel i've treated you unfairly? Or do you just mean that i have disagreed with you and you feel that, that is unfair?


Carazaa? When you feel yourself about to make a statement which reads "This is just like ALL YOU _____", consider stopping yourself.
Blanket statements about an entire group are not a good direction to go in, generally speaking.


I don't think appreciation of a sunrise is in itself evolutionairly adaptive. I think that it is part of the pattern-oriented aesthetic appreciation which IS adaptive for the reasons i mentioned previously.

As for the sun keeping us warm or the earth being what it is, can you show me that it was made for us and not that we simply adapted to live under these conditions? After all, the temperature variation on earth is vast from desert to icecaps and life exists everywhere.
Was the hole made just right for the puddle or did the puddle fill the hole?


I'm not giving you grief, i don't think. I'm disagreeing with you.
Should i consider you to be giving me grief on the basis that you are not accepting my naturalistic explanations?

@Bandit2398 from what I understood there are two types of people in Christianity. One uses them to help themselves over their emotional issues and to get a hope. They don't look over the logics when they just need help. Others use religion to promote their hate and insecurity. Those are the ones you have to watch out for.

Similarly in atheism, some people use their choice to bully people and to make themselves look good. I have seen one here.

I think you’re right but not just in atheism and religions. I think everyone fallls
In the two categories you described. @JBird

@MarkPaul Yes being proud is not so good. It is better to be humble and love God, true 🌻

@Nanori you’re a Fettuccini Extremist

@Temporallube also gonna cover my hair with cheese

@Nanori trendsetters rule the world

@Ynotisay I did not write that for me. I have written that many times and that is what I will do until I die because I care about people, even if they are so mean. I wont block you unless you keep harassing me with more hate so if you don't like to listen to God's warnings I suggest you block me.

@Carazaa Then I'll block you. I don't listen to fables intended to control people and make money. Particularly when the result is hate.

Why I don’t listen to atheism@Ynotisay

@Speedyman Ah, so you still want to participate in name calling, then. But, as with the name calling, I'll stop the pointless conversations with you, if you agree to do the same.

Fine. @Bushranger

@Speedyman OK, so what would you like to discuss?

I caught in the innuendo 😅😀😂


You must be right...given that I borrowed the idea from John Locke...

I will give you time to look him up

..second reminder, you are off subject..

When you have something other than one offs and judgements..

I will be here..

Go pray about your disrespectful tone to others here.
@Speedyman

@Texasgurl I understand he has been disrespectful to people but I really feel for him. It’s hard to accept that your religion is a lie. Especially when you devote so much of your life to it. For an elderly person like him I couldn’t even imagine how hard it must be for him. This is probably why he has so much anger toward us.

i can’t argue with that.@Bandit2398

No atheism is a belief system which requires more blind faith than theism. It is an escape from reason @Bandit2398

@Speedyman I agree with that atheism is escape from reason to an extent, since it is self-evident looking at the world that there is a creator.

Completely illogical. @Carazaa

@Nanori
An old Flip Wilson routine - from the 70's

@Budwick
No. It's what I call bizarre mental contortions.

@QuixoticSoul Oh.
That's too bad for you.

@QuixoticSoul Thank you for pointing this out.
One of the great spiritual thinkers, Teilhard de Chardin, a paleontologist, in The Phenomenon of Man wrote about mankind evolving toward interconnectedness (long before the internet) and toward connection with God.

The prophecies have not come true. That’s just one of the many lies Christianity tells people. Most people just take their word for it without looking at the so called prophecies. Apologists just come up with ridiculous explanations like the one you did for Hess failed prophecies. One of the main reasons the Jews reject the New Testament is because they know what’s described in the ot prophecies has not been fulfill like the nt described.
But even if what’s described in the new nt does seem like it fulfills prophecies. That’s not very impressive. Anyone could add to stories to make it seem a prophecy came true.
And I don’t know where you got that it was thousands of fulfilled prophescies. The most apologists list is 400. You can see it on this website.
http://www.about-jesus.org/complete-chart-prophecies-jesus.htm
. @Carazaa

@Bandit2398 That is just Jesus prophesies but there is the entire bible, and it is the entire future. Just Revelations alone have hundreds of prophesies alone.

@Carazaa well I just showed you a website that said it was at most 400 prophesies.
The author of Matthew said the virgin birth fulfilled a prophecy. But did you know there was no such prophecy? It was a mistranslation from Isaiah.

@Bandit2398 now you're gonna quit your job and be answering here for your sins!

@Pianist1234 hahahaha

No “feelings “ involved👍🏻

I’ve got that T-shirt already.

I know what it means when someone shakes your hand and pisses on your shoe.@Budwick

Huh?@leowander

Are you saying you lived within walking distance of Shirley McClain? So did you come to the conclusion the occult was a lie based on evidence and reasoning?

I thought about what you said about the Hindu you gave a Bible too. You never said he became a Christian. He probably thought it was ridiculous nonsense but was being nice to not hurt your feelings. If he believed the Bible he probably would have became a Christian. @leowander