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50 dollar minimum wage

The higher minimum wage would just raise the cost of living and make it a two class system. This would make it to where you have the system of politicians and millionaires versus everyone else. Currently nurses make between 25 and $75 per hour. This would put an annual wage of about $100,000 which is more than teachers law enforcement and most any other worker currently makes without overtime.

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Spoiledbrat · F Best Comment

It's stupid.

Spoiledbrat · F

Ynotisay · M

Just a little more context. That didn't get picked up. Here's what she said.
"In the [b]Bay Area, [/b]I believe it was the United Way that came out with a report that very recently $127,000 for a family of four is just barely enough to get by," Democrat Congresswoman Barbara Lee said when asked to defend her previous support of a $50 minimum wage and explain how it would be "sustainable."

The idea of a $50 minimum wage is over the top. And it certainly couldn't apply across the board. AG would have to be carved out. The other candidates are pushing for 25 and that's reasonable.

But here's what I don't get. When the minimum wage is increased it brings up wages across the board and the economy does better. When it's not, corporations are free to continuing making HUGE profits for themselves.

So the question is, who are people fighting for? Citizens or corporations and the richest? Have we been trained so well to kiss the hand that beats us that we willingly hurt ourselves in the process?

I think the two class system you mentioned is already in place. If interested, this is a great chart that breaks down the percentages of wealth in the U.S. since 1991.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/dataviz/dfa/distribute/table/

As an example, in Q3 in '23, the top [b]0.1[/b] percent held nearly 20 TRILLION dollars.

The bottom 50 percent held 3.64.

And a "trillion" is a FAR cry from "billion" or "million." I don't think most really understand what a trillion means. It's just a word.

Wealth disparity, in my opinion, is THE biggest domestic issue we face as a country. So I need to understand why so many are so committed to fighting for those who hurt them. I'll never understand that. It's the one issue that could bring together the right and left under the same roof. But we don't do it.

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Ynotisay · M

@dale74 OK. But sorry. I can't relate. I'm an American. I don't think like you. My life is better when the lives of others are better.

dale74 · M

@Ynotisay so basically what you're saying is you're a taker instead of a giver in other words you receive more benefits from the government that you pay into the government I'm also an American

Ynotisay · M

@dale74 You missed on that one bud. I'm the giver. Things don't need to impact me personally. I've never received a freaking financial benefit from the government in my life. My tax dollars go to helping society and I'm good with that. You know, things like poor people being able to see a doctor or eat. I don't need to make everything about me. Like I said, my life is better when the lives of others are better. Maybe I'm just not your brand of American. The one who lives to whine, blame and hate made up enemies. Sorry bud. I'm a man. I'll leave that shit to your kind and just work around you the best I can.

TexChik · F

Nope, businesses will shut down and people will be forced to find health care elsewhere.

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dale74 · M

@jshm2 I wholeheartedly agree with your post that anyone who runs a business should pay a living wage but they should not be forced to by the federal government through a minimum wage. I used to have a business my employees normally started out at twice with minimum wage was.

dale74 · M

We went from 3.76 in 1988 to 7.50 in 2023 basically doubled in 35 years now people want to go from 7.50 to 50.00 with out skilled labor.

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dale74 · M

@MethDozer but not like they were trust me raising the minimum wage destroys the middle class

MethDozer · M

@dale74 No it doesn't. The middle class is already shrinking and unattainable for most. Every attempt to try and save it is being at to asked by the GOP and the right in favor of upper class.. minimum wage and government regulation of business and unions are the only protections the middle class has against a buisness and ownership class that actively is at war with them and labor as nothing but a resource and commodity to be exploited.

MethDozer · M

@dale74 Don't fall into their trap of toxic thinking. Others being raised up to your level isn't an attack on you and doesn't hurt you. Class hierarchies are dumb.

GlitterEater · 36-40, F

How many classes are in the current system?

Straylight · 31-35, F

@GlitterEater Class is on a spectrum. 🙃

dale74 · M

@GlitterEater typically you have the upper class making more than 250k midfle class about 36k-250k below 36k a family of 4 would be eligible for government assistance.

GlitterEater · 36-40, F

@dale74 So, two?

FloorGenAdm · 51-55, M

Shoot for the stars and you might hit the moon? 🌕

dale74 · M

@FloorGenAdm and if you miss by a million miles you'll still be Among the Stars

FreestyleArt · 31-35, M

That would destroy the fast food chains. In LA a Big Mac Meal cost over 20 bucks.....are we thinking 40 bucks for a meal? More?

Check out the 15 dollar menu....

But hey.....a simple cheese burger at least cost 8 bucks whoohoo what a luxury.

Lemme guess....a toy are not free in those happy meals either.

Thevy29 · 41-45, M

$50 an hour would be nice.

But they tax you here before you get it. Tax you where you keep it. Tax you when you spend it on items already fucking taxed.

dale74 · M

Is already cheaper to eat at a sit-down restaurants than a fast clean restaurant even with the tip

BigImo · 22-25, F

The cost of living is always increasing anyway even without the pay rise

TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 41-45, MVIP

Rent food power medications fuel.. will go straight up.

OogieBoogie · F

Yes, yes, how dare the poverty sticken ask for more ....the bastards

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dale74 · M

@OogieBoogie feeding the poor is what we do to help those less fortunate when the government takes it from you by force and then redistributes it then you are not sacrificing yourself you're being forced to sacrifice there is a big difference. If let's say you have a child and you and your spouse separate yet she still provide a house for them to live in money for food and clothing that is you sacrificing to provide for your child in the caregiving parent. When child support steps in they base everything on money and they provide a percentage of your check to the other spouse that percentage may actually be far less than what you were already providing but there's a difference one you were doing it because you care the other one because you are forced there is a huge difference.

SarahAndSamantha · 46-50, F

@dale74 because being Nerf is awesome and flipping burgers sucks?

OogieBoogie · F

@dale74 whatever man.
Apparently your axe to grind is with the poor and not the government .
You choose how you view the world .

MrBrownstone · 46-50, M

Does the cost of living go up now?

OogieBoogie · F

The cost of living has already been raised even without doing that .
We already are almost devoid of a middle class any more.

What people want is to be able to eat and afford a roof over their heads . For that they need money, a decent wage - enough money to just exist - minimally .

The government has the funds and means to do it . They need to stop hemorrhaging funds and pour it into the economy .
For the people...
So the people can work and buy....
And keep the economy going .....

MethDozer · M

I love when y'all talk about how anything that helps give to the lower class of have nots from the upper class of Havers. Will lead to a society of Haves and have nots.

That said $50 is a bit much

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