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50 dollar minimum wage

The higher minimum wage would just raise the cost of living and make it a two class system. This would make it to where you have the system of politicians and millionaires versus everyone else. Currently nurses make between 25 and $75 per hour. This would put an annual wage of about $100,000 which is more than teachers law enforcement and most any other worker currently makes without overtime.

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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
The reason for raising the minimum wage is because the cost of living is high so it would be the same minimum wage regardless as it's to match current prices, not the other way around.

Also in rural communities they're still paying 12 hourly and 3 hourly for service jobs with tips so no the minimum wage hasn't been raised to a livable standard
dale74 · M
@SatanBurger you missed the whole point increasing the minimum wage has never done anything but increase prices
dale74 · M
@SatanBurger but understand this all prices are based on the minimum wage as long as people are content with minimum wage they will live in abject poverty. The minimum wage was never designed as a wage to live on you learn a skill and then move on to a better paying job. You raise minimum wage to $20 an hour before long to buy a Coke in a 20 oz bottle you're going to spend close to $6 or $7 just 20 years ago a Coke and a 20 oz bottle was a dollar
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dale74 · M
@Rolexeo with a lot of people don't realize is governments also absolutely love the higher minimum wage because those people will now be kicked into a higher tax bracket which means they'll actually have to start paying taxes whereas your typical McDonald's employee never made enough to have to pay federal taxes I mean yeah they take stuff out but they get it all back at the end of the year. Also local revenues go up why because we're texting everybody more cuz the cost of products go up.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@dale74 prices were already increasing, minimum wage raises go with the increase in prices.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Rolexeo I think that minimum wage should be untaxable money. I think they need to figure out a different system than taking from the poor.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Rolexeo oh yeah still 7.25 here too actually and that needs to be raised as the cost of everything has gone up. Need to match the economy.
dale74 · M
@SatanBurger I understand what you're saying but the increase will cause prices to skyrocket minimum wage is what everything is based on even if you make it $100 an hour before long your soda pop's going to cost 50 bucks
dale74 · M
Go watch a basic economics course online shit very few people understand economics I mean it's not like I'm asking you to get a four-year degree in economics like I've got but just micro and macroeconomics course and probably find a 30 minute one online
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@dale74 Here's why economists think the minimum wage should be raised, from people with an economics degree:

https://www.today.com/money/experts-minimum-wage-increase-t208730

With the federal minimum wage unchanged for over a decade — and the value of that amount eroding while income inequality increases as the years go by — Allegretto says Biden’s plan is “long overdue.” TODAY spoke to economists about the most common rebuttals to a minimum wage hike — and why they might be misguided.

“There are a lot of other expenses when you run a business that have nothing to do with how many minimum wage workers you employ,” he said over Zoom. “For the typical restaurant, labor costs are only 20%-25% — minimum wage labor costs are even less than that. So when the minimum wage goes up, yes, you may need to raise prices a little bit, but you're going to raise them much less than the actual minimum wage increase.”

In other words, the degree to which Biden’s plan would help low-wage workers is exponentially greater than the degree to which it would damage consumers’ wallets.

Plus, Zipperer explained, the real problem is that inflation has already been happening. Over the past few years, businesses have had to respond to hikes in the cost of food, electricity and rent, to name a few. Wages, on the other hand, have remained stagnant, and it’s time that they’re brought up to speed.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@dale74 I could go back past Biden to tell you that other economists say the same thing too. And in the article they were saying that goods and services were already increasing while wages stayed stagnant until just recently. So that tells me that something else was going on plus COVID already went on as well.
dale74 · M
@SatanBurger well if you live in California wait for the super boost and prices over the next two years
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@dale74
Think of it this way: You’re running a McDonald’s selling 1,000 hamburgers a day. You make, say, 75 cents on each Big Mac costing $3.99. Will you raise its price by a nickel to $4.04 in order to make up for an increase in the minimum wage? That would be silly, because $4.04 is not an attractive number, and you’d lose too many sales as a consequence. Rather, you’d be satisfied with a lower profit margin on a Big Mac of 70 cents. But you notice that the Big Mac Meal is selling for $5.69; that gives you the opportunity to raise its price to the next attractive number of $5.75 in order to make up for the increased cost of labor. Will the demand for Big Mac Meals decline? It is doubtful that customers will even notice that tiny increase in price. Hence, Krueger concludes, “The net effect is basically no change in overall employment.” Profits might decline slightly, but not on every item. There are offsetting benefits as well: “decently paid workers tend to do a better job.”

So profits would not be in great jeopardy. Anyhow, the one thing this economy is good at is generating profits with most of it, of course, going to the top 1 percent. Corporate (after-tax) profits are currently ringing the cash register at $1.8 trillion. This equals about all wages and salaries earned by those employed in the manufacturing sector and in all government employment (state, local, federal) combined.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/why-raising-the-minimum-wage-is-good-economics

CEO compensation these days is roughly $7,000 an hour (that is, assuming a 40-hour workweek). In fact, CEO-to-average worker pay has increased by a factor of 15 from the 1960s ratio of 20 to 1 to the present whopping 300 to 1. But in some companies it is astronomical. At Chipotle the ratio is 1,522 to 1. Yes, you read it right. That is not a typo. In some firms, the CEO makes nearly 2,000 times as much as the average worker. At Walmart the ratio is 1,133. Do these CEOs deserve their millions? Not by a long shot. Take the CEO of Coca Cola company. He still pockets $25 million. His rival, the CEO of Pepsico writes a check to himself for $22 million. Yet, I have not heard any of the Republican presidential hopefuls suggest that these millions are hurting our exports. A pittance to the coolies hurts the economy, but the millions to their bosses are quite all right.
dale74 · M
@SatanBurger first you're overestimating sales at a McDonald's average total sales at a McDonald's in the United States is 6,500 a day that's on an average day. And each one of those McDonald's has an average of 15 employees per day working. Now you said earlier that labor only makes up 25% of the fast food market cost well 25% and you're basically going within a two year period from $10 an hour to $20 an hour yes they did have a sliding increase the 15 and now it's going to 20 but that average is out of her a couple of years from 10 to 20 so you have doubled the cost of Labor. I'm telling you to go research the economic principles against minimum wage so you can understand both sides of the argument which you currently do not.