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Do you believe in hell? [Spirituality & Religion]

So many people today don't believe in a literal place called Hell that burns with fire and brimstone (Revelation 21:8), where all who die in their sins without Jesus Christ go to be punished for all eternity.
SarahAndSamantha · 46-50, F
Not at all. I also don't believe even the most evil, vile twisted person in all of human history or future deserves eternal punishment. Infinite suffering for finite sins cannot be justified
Agent · 61-69, M
@NIC0LE Is believing in Jesus Christ enough to get you to Heaven?
@Agent John 3:16 says this, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life."
Agent · 61-69, M
@NIC0LE [quote]what He won't do is force you to believe in Him or accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior[/quote]
Do I have to accept Jesus into my heart?
[b]THIS IS A TRUE STORY; give me YOUR reaction if this was said to you.[/b]

I knew a holocaust survivor. Mordecai Kuritsky from Lithuania.
He lived through HELL and made it out.
He was the most loving person, a Jew who "loved Yeshua"
but was not a believer in Jesus but "loved the Almighty".

I HAD a dear christian/Messianic Jewish
(she is Jewish/Polish/Argentenian Messianic believer in Yeshua; christian)...
she said to me

[quote]"[b]Did Max (his American name) receive Christ before he died?
If he didn't HE IS IN HELL"[/b]...[/quote]

Well, her father, an atheist died.
I said nothing and she could not confirm that he "was saved"
and going to heaven and did not think or talk of him "being in Hell".

What a judgmental, UNLOVING and really HATEFUL saying.
How arrogant and UNKIND to me (she is no longer a friend,
she would not accept that I am Baha'i).

Do I believe in Hell?
If I was my friend,
I would say that if you don't receive Jesus as Savior
you DESERVE Hell.

All I could say to that is, "Go to H***".
@CopperCicada[quote] 2. Most people, including believers, really don’t care about others. Not really. If they did, then my friend’s grace would have rejoiced them.[/quote]
Agent · 61-69, M
@MsAlaineEYes That is a common reply to me: "Receive Jesus into my heart, before I die or I'll go to hell."
One guy kept pestering me about this, then when I went to a Catholic thread; he showed up, and He said, "that if I prayed the rosary, then I would go to hell."
@Agent Religious psych ops: don't worry about what anyone tells you; find out for yourself. Independent Investigation.
pride49 · 26-30, M
Neither heaven or hell because neither exists
@pride49 Definitely NOT in the way that the interpreters of the Bible say that it exists; literally. I think that figurately; WE MAKE our HEAVEN or HELL right here, right now.
CakeByTheOcean · 26-30, F
No. I also don’t believe in heaven, Narnia, middle earth, neverland, or Canada.
@Graylight So much for God having omnipresence.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@canusernamebemyusername Oh wow. Can He choose not to be present while his nature is being present everywhere? Or does he just keep his back turned toward you at all times?

Interesting philosophical question.
@Graylight I don't know. But I only hear the omnipresence doctrine in certain places among certain people. Most agree on the omnipotence, omniscience and omnibenevolence but only some people add the omnipresence as well. Which leads you to have to believe he is in hell too (I mean it was his creation after all) or modify one of his four God traits. Which if you did would make him not a God to some people. It is an interesting idea. Lol
I believe, but not in the actual, literal lake of fire and brimstone as in somewhere you can physically visit. Such a place would hold no threat to a soul as they have no physical body to feel the flames. Hell, is eternal torment and suffering with no way to ever escape it or adapt to it.
@SW-User sorry to hear about your grandfather.

However, what you are presenting here is far from definitive even within the medical and scientific communities. First of all, there are countless, documented cases of people suddenly regaining all their faculties before death, Alzheimers patients that were basically infantile or vegetative, suddenly returning to their former, pre-condition states, bed ridden patients suddenly able to stand and walk on their own... there are thousands upon thousands of these accounts.

The other issue is, we don't yet fully understand how consciousness (or the soul) actually works in the brain. How the firing of synapse and neurons leads us to being us mentally and emotionally on the most basic levels. We don't know if all those thoughts and emotions are simply electrical impulses on a cellular level, or if that is merely a means of relaying them to the flesh. In other words, even without the ability to outwardly think and express ones self to the outside world, no one can truly say if our thoughts and emotions carry on or simply cease to exist.

There has been many compelling testimonials of people recovering from catatonic and vegetative states, in which they claim they were fully aware (despite scans saying they shouldn't be), just unable to interact with anyone or anything. Sort of like Stephen Hawking lived his adult life.
@PrivateHell the problem with this is that they’re only testimonials. I saw people die(trough visits to my grandfather) i saw people pumped up on drugs dying of cancer seeing things in the room. It’s not pretty. Think of the brain as a hard drive. All your memory is stored in there. Once that’s gone,everything is gone. If you can show me one example of those thousands who came back online right before death ,only to pass away,i will give you the benefit of the doubt.

No testimonials though please. People can state anything as facts
@SW-User not really. The true problem is, the testimonials and accounts of people being revitalized just before the end, are all we really have to go on. There are very few studies and virtually no means of actually testing either of our points of view. The closest I have ever found was a few years ago researchers (i believe at John Hopkins) were able to conclude that the soul itself has weight. They studied something like 50 people that were in the process of actively dying, carefully monitoring everything from bodily fluids to air intake of the lungs, as they consistently measured the person's body and vitals. In each case, almost immediately upon death, and after factoring in the loss of fluids and oxygen from the lungs, they record a very slight, but consistent drop in the weight of the dying person that seemed to have no explanation. But, it happened in each patient. Was that actually the soul leaving the body? I leave it up to you to decide, because even the experts are uncertain.
Eternal torture for finite subjective crimes. That's justice!
Wolfee · 31-35, M
Eternal hell seems to be a bit meaningless
@Wolfee Not to those who want vengeance for what that person did to "deserve it", you know that saying "I hope you burn in H***". I believe that there are some merciless people that really HOPE that will happen. Shame on them.
Piper · 61-69, F
It is difficult for me to believe, that a "loving" creator would sentence [i]any[/i] of his creations to [b]eternal[/b] suffering.
So after we die,we keep all of our senses but not our body🤔 how does that work exactly? Try burning your finger if you don’t have one
When you die, you leave your body here on/under the earth. How can a fire burn you if don't have the body?
Adstar · 56-60, M
You're mistaking Hell for the eternal Lake of fire.. They are different places..

Hell is a temporary prison for souls

The Lake of fire is the Eternal place of punishment for those souls who are currently in Hell..

Read the following scriptures of the final judgement you will see how it shows that Hell and the eternal lake of fire are not the same places..

[b]Revelation 20: KJV[/b]
11 "And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. {12} And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. {13} And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. {14} And death [b]and [u]hell[/u] were [u]cast into the lake of fire[/u][/b]. This is the second death. {15} And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

So Hell is going to be cast into the Lake of Fire at the end.. Therefore Hell cannot be the lake of fire..

And for the question:: Yes i believe Hell is real and i believe the eternal lake of fire is real..
@Adstar I don't see 'eternal place of punishment' in the text
Agent · 61-69, M
@SW-User [9] And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
[10] The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
[11] And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Rev 14
Adstar · 56-60, M
@SW-User Anyone who read the Bible can see it.. Unless they are so determined not to see it that they clutch for straws trying to reinterpret plain texts to mean something other then what they really mean..

[b]Revelation 20: KJV[/b]
10 "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."
"Don't you believe in flying saucers, they ask me? Don't you believe in telepathy? — in ancient astronauts? — in the Bermuda triangle? — in life after death?

No, I reply. No, no, no, no, and again no.

One person recently, goaded into desperation by the litany of unrelieved negation, burst out "Don't you believe in anything?"

"Yes", I said. "I believe in evidence. I believe in observation, measurement, and reasoning, confirmed by independent observers. I'll believe anything, no matter how wild and ridiculous, if there is evidence for it. The wilder and more ridiculous something is, however, the firmer and more solid the evidence will have to be.”
― Isaac Asimov
Wolfee · 31-35, M
@DunningKruger Do you believe in Heaven?
DunningKruger · 61-69, M
@Wolfee No.
Lmao no hell is just when you’re sad and heaven is when you’re happy, it’s all in your head but orthodox jesus freaks need to make everything dramatic and guilt based
adorbz · 26-30, F
Idk if I actually do but I’d like to believe in an afterlife. But I wouldn’t want it to separate into heaven and hell
@adorbz That's about what I believe as a Baha'i. Heaven and Hell is within us...there is an eternity, more than I understood as a christian. There is NO punishment but the consequence of our own heedless choices in life...and no heaven, because we have not allowed "heaven to reign in our hearts" so why should we deserve an "eternal heaven" if we have not made it in this life?
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
No. And anyone who does needs to think hard about where they got their beliefs from.
Carazaa · F
@ninalanyon The Bible, Gods word ofcourse😊.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@Carazaa A book written by human beings, carefully edited to preserve the power structure of the church.
curiosi · 61-69, F
Yep, as we are spiritual beings having a human experience. Earth is training ground where we choose and prepare for the next life.
MougyWolf · 36-40, M
I believe that humans are well capable of manufacturing hell on Earth, and that we are in it, right now.
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
I see no reason to think hell is a thing.
Christians believe in Heaven and Hell.
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Agent · 61-69, M
@SW-User Thank you for your answer
@Agent Most welcome
CuriousCuckold · 61-69, M

Sounds like hatred and revenge in the name of religion. I guess the thing to do is to waste your life living like a saint so that you don't go to a place where you have to suffer for all eternity.
I do believe in hell, but it is not literal. It is a place of regret. You know, when you eff up badly and you burn/regret? Like that.
Carazaa · F
Yeah there is punishment for all sin if Jesus didjn't take the punishment!
Agent · 61-69, M
@Carazaa Is there punishment for my sin without Jesus?
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
I've been told I'm going to hell. Moved on from Christianity many years ago.
TheWildEcho · 56-60, M
Yes, because Jesus believed in it!
That's why we need a Saviour
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Same place people went when they died before the Bible.
Elessar · 26-30, M
Look around, and welcome
Nobody00 · F
Ya cause Ive seen it
Nanori · 31-35, F
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walabby · 61-69, M
Thevy29 · 36-40, M
smiler2012 · 56-60
{@agent] yes i do believe in hell and damnation
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
I'm more certain a God exists but yes
Wolfee · 31-35, M
@SW-User Law of attraction you're going to hell if you believe in it!
@Wolfee Never said I didn't want to go there hahaha
Wolfee · 31-35, M
@SW-User 😶
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SpaceJesus · 41-45, M
I am not weak or scared, so I do not need religious beliefs as a comfort blanket
Asmae · 31-35, F
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
No, not in that literal sense.
Azlotto · M
It's a possibility. I always keep an open mind.
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21:8 Where do you get the eternal from in this?

And no, I don't believe in a sadistic God
empanadas · 31-35, M
Yeah but not the religious one

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