Atheism is dangerous? Really? [Spirituality & Religion]

@CookieLuvsBunny Have you been touched by Its Noodly Appendage? If so you are blessed.

@suzie1960 That noodle rocked my world

@CookieLuvsBunny As one would expect.

n.b. I have been informed that the correct pronoun to use when referring to The FSM is "Quob". I'm not sure how it declines though.

@Pherick


lol touche

@Pikachu more

@gregloa

Yeah, actually this is the first page that i read as well. I was hoping you had a more relevant source than the nearest google result.
But while it comes down pretty heavily on atheists, it does not appear to support your assertion they people were killed in the name of atheism. In fact it seems to acknowledge that fact:
"I'm not sure that the person about to be executed by a Marxist or Maoist atheist is assuaged in the knowledge that his evil, merciless executioner isn't killing him because he's an atheist but rather because he believes in an atheist philosophy and only coincidently doesn't believe in God."

So it acknowledges that in fact atheists were not killing in the name of no god or even in the name of atheism itself but in the name of political ideologies.

Can you be more specific?

Also, in future a simple link will suffice or copy/pasting the pertinent passages🙂

@gregloa All the atrocities you mentioned were committed by men who were wearing shoes. So using your logic male genitalia and wearing shoes leads to mass murder

@Strawberrry [quote]people who view religion as a tool to suppress the masses[/quote]

"These people draw near to Me with their mouth, and honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me, and in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men." (Matthew: 15:8 & 9) Jesus speaking to the people.

@GodSpeed63 the thing is that most people who label themself as christians give a shit about jesus philosophy... just look at what conservative christians usually vote for thats absolutely incompatible with jesus teachings

@Strawberrry [quote] the thing is that most people who label themselves as Christians give a shit about Jesus philosophy... [/quote]

Jesus sees through their hypocrisy which is why He told the people that their hearts are far from Him. He desires true believers who worship Him in deed and in truth. Religious people who label themselves Christians do not do that.

@Pherick It's really not though. The Communists' and Revolutionists' respective beliefs in the falsehood of Christianity were necessary parts of the logic that lead to them slaying the adherents of those religions. You could say the same about any killing perpetrated by Christians or arguably even Nazis (in their original definition). Just because atheism wasn't the [i]only[/i] motivator doesn't make it not a relevant one.

@BlueVeins Saying "Atheists killed Christians" in your examples though is just a way to force a viewpoint on it. It's more honest to say "French Revolutionaries attacked the Church" or "Communist Officials attacked religious groups". While I don't know the religious or non-religious viewpoints of the people involved in every killing in these cases, we do know they were Communists or Revolutionaries.

@Pherick We do know the non-religious viewpoints of these people though. Atheism was literally a part of the Communist Manifesto, the literary foundation of the Communist government, and the Cult of Reason explicitly described itself as atheistic. De-contextualizing these events by leaving out these important details is dishonest, and it runs contrary to the commitment to evidence that atheists generally claim to care about.

@basilfawlty89 I couldn't find one to the orig.

You will find your facts are wrong. It was the Catholic Church in England. There were Protestant executions but nothing like to that extent. But compare that with the atheists Stalin and Mao, who killed about 70 million people between them.. @MarmeeMarch

@Speedyman I was kidding..............💆‍♂️

@Pikachu as you said, you wouldn’t get it anyways

@Deadcutie

Well...i guess that concludes the productive part of the discussion.

If you feel like rationally explaining your position to me, i'll be here🙂

@Pikachu when you finally get it, I’ll be here

@Girlyfriendcollecting Which Christians are those? There are no such people that are atheists or a cult known as atheism. Both terms belong six feet under a headstone. What dangerous is that people believe it's lies and committing suicide because it robs them of their hope that God, Yahweh, has so richly given to them.

@SW-User

that's how i roll

"Anger always has a reason, seldom a good one." Ben Franklin

@softspokenman

@Pikachu Most of your viewpoints are too narrow, tedious, fallacious, and self-serving for my taste.

@SheElf

Again, you criticize me [i]personally[/i] as a deflection from your inability to support your argument.

Now, that [i]I[/i] find tedious and fallacious.
Answer my questions or do not, the choice is yours. But don't make excuses.

@Pikachu

If you were a good and reasonable person I would try to save you from yourself, but...

Once again I give examples and they fly straight through your ears- as if never spoken or heard. Still, uneducated fools will applaud you and award hearts- for they love their own kind. Or maybe it's that cute yellow thing hiding your vile nature.

@PikachuTrainer
This is an excerpt from Richard Weikart's book "Hitler's Religion"
Hitler scoffed at the basic teachings of Christianity, sarcastically relating the story of humanity from a Christian standpoint. He implied that God was responsible for original sin and commented that God’s method of redemption by sending his Son was a “murderous subterfuge.” Then, according to Hitler, when others did not accept these strange teachings, the church tortured them into submission. In the course of this anti-Christian diatribe, Hitler called the Catholic Church a form of idolatry and “Satanic superstition.”

Another theme that surfaced frequently in Hitler’s monologues of 1941–42 was that the sneaky first-century rabbi Paul was responsible for repackaging the Jewish worldview in the guise of Christianity, thereby causing the downfall of the Roman Empire. In December 1941, Hitler stated that although Christ was an Aryan, “Paul used his teachings to mobilize the underworld and organize a proto-Bolshevism. With its emergence the beautiful clarity of the ancient world was lost.” In fact, since Christianity was tainted from the very start, Hitler sometimes referred to it as “Jew-Christianity.” While Hitler often associated Jesus with Aryan traits and socialism, he consistently lambasted Christianity as Jewish and communist. He denigrated the “Jew-Christians” of the fourth century for destroying Roman temples and even called the destruction of the Alexandrian library a “JewishChristian deed.” Hitler thus construed the contest between Christianity and the ancient pagan world as part of the racial struggle between Jews and Aryans.

In the end, the evidence is preponderant against Hitler embracing any form of Christianity for most of his adult life. Was Hitler a Christian? No

@GJOFJ3 I thought Hitler was an occultist.

@GJOFJ3 better question here is if he had those views how can he be an Atheist? And after watching many documentaries, reading first hand accounts of the like, he did, at the end of it, consider himself a Christian, yes he did use such monologue, that would certainly have him classed more of a Christian Cultist, rather than an follower of mainstream Christianity.

@Deadcutie

We've been over this.

@Pikachu because you don’t get it.. until you do, no point going further

@Deadcutie

See my most recent post. Have a pleasant evening🙂

@Deadcutie either that or you just like cherry picking, which is exactly what most Theists do on this site, cherry pick.

@Deadcutie I get the Romans verse but I don't agree with it. It's basically saying "you made me do this to you because of your sins" which is similar to an abuser who beats his wife and said she made him do it because she dropped some dishes.

@SatanBurger no what he is saying is because of our sins he has allowed us to reap the consequences of those sins. he is basically saying you rejected me and the way I told you to live, and think you can do it better, so I’m gonna be hands off and let you learn the hard way

@GodSpeed63

I don't need your god or your religion to live my life as a good man or your judgement and your unfounded, unprovable, accusations of me as a human being with no meaning to my life. Your god is made in the image of man, based on a book written by man, and says that the words are inspired by god. I'll save you a seat in hell next to me for eternity.@GodSpeed63

@PikachuTrainer [quote]OK, please post your source of Atheists blowing themselves up in the name of Atheism..... I'll be waiting an eternity, but I am patient....[/quote]
He can't do that because he doesn't believe Atheists even exist.

@TheCensoredBrot Cars run over people. Cars have doors. Therefore, doors are dangerous.

@OggggO Sounds like a personal problem. Blog it

@suzie1960 I know, but only people like you want to make a big deal about it.... so who’s desperate again?

@Deadcutie Why do you theists feel the need to try to force your beliefs onto others? From your comment to @Pikachu, you can't even accept the fact that people can be Atheists.

@suzie1960

Oh that.
I'm sure she believes that atheists exist.

She just got mad at me when i insisted on dismantling her arguments rather than responding in kind to the various personal insults and criticisms she threw my way.

She'll calm down eventually, i assume.