Hmmm, maybe, but mostly I think we've always been intolerant, and with the advent of the internet and social media, become more able/willing to spread our intolerance and hate.
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JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@Ontheroad I really think this phenomena is an existential crisis for humanity.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
What should we tolerate and what should we not and who decides what is acceptable.
AI response:
The question of what society should tolerate and what it should not is complex and multifaceted, involving ethical, cultural, legal, and philosophical considerations. Here's a broad overview:
### What Should We Tolerate in Society?
1. **Diverse Opinions and Beliefs:**
- **Freedom of Speech:** Most liberal democracies uphold the right to free speech, allowing individuals to express their opinions, even if they are unpopular or controversial.
- **Religious Freedom:** Tolerance of different religious beliefs and practices is a cornerstone of many societies.
2. **Cultural Diversity:**
- **Cultural Practices:** Societies should generally be open to a variety of cultural expressions, as long as they do not harm others.
- **Ethnic Diversity:** Respect and inclusion of different ethnic groups and their traditions.
3. **Lifestyles and Personal Choices:**
- **Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity:** Acceptance of LGBTQ+ individuals and their rights.
- **Personal Life Choices:** Tolerance for different lifestyle choices, such as career paths, family structures, and recreational activities.
### What Should We Not Tolerate in Society?
1. **Harmful Actions:**
- **Violence and Abuse:** Physical violence, emotional abuse, and other forms of harm should not be tolerated.
- **Discrimination and Hate Speech:** Actions and speech that promote hatred, discrimination, or violence against individuals or groups based on race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc.
2. **Criminal Activities:**
- **Illegal Actions:** Theft, fraud, corruption, and other criminal activities should not be tolerated.
3. **Human Rights Violations:**
- **Exploitation and Oppression:** Practices that exploit or oppress individuals or groups, such as human trafficking, slavery, and child labor.
### Who Decides What is Acceptable?
1. **Laws and Regulations:**
- **Governments:** Elected officials and lawmakers create and enforce laws that reflect societal standards and values.
- **Judicial Systems:** Courts interpret and uphold laws, ensuring they align with constitutional principles and human rights.
2. **Social Consensus:**
- **Public Opinion:** Societal norms and values often evolve through public discourse, activism, and social movements.
- **Cultural Institutions:** Schools, media, religious organizations, and other institutions play a role in shaping and reflecting societal values.
3. **Ethical and Moral Standards:**
- **Philosophical and Ethical Frameworks:** Philosophers, ethicists, and thought leaders contribute to the ongoing discussion about what is morally right or wrong.
- **International Bodies:** Organizations like the United Nations set international standards for human rights and ethical behavior.
### Balancing Tolerance and Intolerance
Striking a balance between tolerance and intolerance involves ongoing dialogue and reflection. It requires considering the impact of actions and beliefs on individuals and society as a whole, and striving to uphold principles of justice, equality, and human dignity.
AI response:
The question of what society should tolerate and what it should not is complex and multifaceted, involving ethical, cultural, legal, and philosophical considerations. Here's a broad overview:
### What Should We Tolerate in Society?
1. **Diverse Opinions and Beliefs:**
- **Freedom of Speech:** Most liberal democracies uphold the right to free speech, allowing individuals to express their opinions, even if they are unpopular or controversial.
- **Religious Freedom:** Tolerance of different religious beliefs and practices is a cornerstone of many societies.
2. **Cultural Diversity:**
- **Cultural Practices:** Societies should generally be open to a variety of cultural expressions, as long as they do not harm others.
- **Ethnic Diversity:** Respect and inclusion of different ethnic groups and their traditions.
3. **Lifestyles and Personal Choices:**
- **Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity:** Acceptance of LGBTQ+ individuals and their rights.
- **Personal Life Choices:** Tolerance for different lifestyle choices, such as career paths, family structures, and recreational activities.
### What Should We Not Tolerate in Society?
1. **Harmful Actions:**
- **Violence and Abuse:** Physical violence, emotional abuse, and other forms of harm should not be tolerated.
- **Discrimination and Hate Speech:** Actions and speech that promote hatred, discrimination, or violence against individuals or groups based on race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc.
2. **Criminal Activities:**
- **Illegal Actions:** Theft, fraud, corruption, and other criminal activities should not be tolerated.
3. **Human Rights Violations:**
- **Exploitation and Oppression:** Practices that exploit or oppress individuals or groups, such as human trafficking, slavery, and child labor.
### Who Decides What is Acceptable?
1. **Laws and Regulations:**
- **Governments:** Elected officials and lawmakers create and enforce laws that reflect societal standards and values.
- **Judicial Systems:** Courts interpret and uphold laws, ensuring they align with constitutional principles and human rights.
2. **Social Consensus:**
- **Public Opinion:** Societal norms and values often evolve through public discourse, activism, and social movements.
- **Cultural Institutions:** Schools, media, religious organizations, and other institutions play a role in shaping and reflecting societal values.
3. **Ethical and Moral Standards:**
- **Philosophical and Ethical Frameworks:** Philosophers, ethicists, and thought leaders contribute to the ongoing discussion about what is morally right or wrong.
- **International Bodies:** Organizations like the United Nations set international standards for human rights and ethical behavior.
### Balancing Tolerance and Intolerance
Striking a balance between tolerance and intolerance involves ongoing dialogue and reflection. It requires considering the impact of actions and beliefs on individuals and society as a whole, and striving to uphold principles of justice, equality, and human dignity.
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@Tastyfrzz i dont want a machine to tell people what's right and wrong to feel. Everyone is an individual a machine can not compensate for that. This would never be ok with me..you can go too far even with a good thing.
BlueVeins · 22-25
No. Homophobia, transphobia, and misogyny today are a joke compared to what it was like 20 years ago in the developed world (and even many developing countries). Progress on racism has been slow, but even then, American media has become remarkably diverse, which is important bc the US is basically the cultural center of the world right now. The current right wing surge is bad, but it's contrary to long-term trends, and will soon fizzle out if they fail to seize total institutional power.
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@BlueVeins thank you for your input.
blackarcher256 · 61-69, M
Yes…The move to criminalize any speech that a particular special interest group disagrees with, “hate speech” will divide us further. The same is true of the ESG and socialist policies favored by European politicians.
bijouxbroussard · F
@blackarcher256 Actual hate speech is real. But it becomes confused with the attempts by people to understand new social "norms". If someone sees a new scenario as not making sense, they’re accused of "hate" simply because they question it.
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@blackarcher256 i do understand that..some of these groups dont help themselves in the way they choose to act on it or voice it.
akindheart · 61-69, F
yes i do. the more they push woke on us, the more aware we become in not a good way.
ThreeLittleBirds · F
When Charlie Chaplin let the world know years ago that men were becoming machines I believe that was the start of it … now we are living through so much of it … so many machines
It’s unusual to be human these days … to be emotional
It’s seen as a weakness if tears flow.
I disagree… there’s nothing weak about wearing your heart on your sleeve
It’s unusual to be human these days … to be emotional
It’s seen as a weakness if tears flow.
I disagree… there’s nothing weak about wearing your heart on your sleeve
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@ThreeLittleBirds i agree with alot of that. I believe machines have their uses but we are placing far too much faith in them.
ThreeLittleBirds · F
Yes ma’am 🙏🏼@Primnproper
KungFuVixen · F
I know I have gain more tolerance as I aged. I became more accepting of other than say how I was 40 years ago
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@KungFuVixen I'm sure their are many that would agree with that about themselves.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@KungFuVixen I am 100% more tolerant than I was 30 years ago as well. I'm a much more happy person because of it.
ArtieKat · M
Yes, undoubtedly (and very sadly)
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I know that SW isn't "real life" but one only has to read the vitriolic exchanges on here between people of different beliefs/politics etc for constant illustrations of my cynical viewpoint
EDITED:
I know that SW isn't "real life" but one only has to read the vitriolic exchanges on here between people of different beliefs/politics etc for constant illustrations of my cynical viewpoint
Adogslife · 61-69, M
I think just the opposite. There are so many things today that weren’t tolerated when I was young. There’s an almost endless list.
ffony · M
@Adogslife
Why is it that so often people 'respond' to things that have not been said - or even to the opposite of what's been said?
As I am more senior that you
?? You say you're 60-69. I'm in the second half of 80-89. That may have some bearing on our ability to understand each other. As for having time to develop understandings of life, humor, irony ... I'm wayahead of you.Why is it that so often people 'respond' to things that have not been said - or even to the opposite of what's been said?
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
Yes we are, but there is a backlash against it. Also we are becoming more sensitive and intolerant of each other's viewpoints (polarized).
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@JimboSaturn i have to agree with you there..
Madmonk · M
No. I see things getting better. Slowly but it’s happening
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@Madmonk do you think? I normally am optimistic but here in the UK I think its definitely on the decline.
Madmonk · M
@Primnproper I’ve seen and experienced real hate. Not just passive aggressive feelings hurt type of things. No. Things are definitely heading in the right direction. Just wish it was faster
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@Madmonk i hope you're right.
ABCDEF7 · M
It's just our understanding about things and opinions get more mature(solidify) due to our repeated experiences. So we are likely to react in a predetermined way. But being tolerant or not depends on how we are ready to encounter the opposite/non-compatible thoughts/etc. It's more of the behaviour that we learned to react to unacceptable things and how much energy we are left with.
RuyLopez · 56-60, M
Less tolerant of the decent and more tolerate of the perverse.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
No it's the opposite, the intolerant are becoming more aggressive as we're trying to evolve more peacefully. The majority are actually growing more tolerant. There's all these things that biology, science, psychology and other fields have largely grown exponentially with new information.
Unfortunately and I mean this quite literally, adaption is closely related to intelligence and those types simply don't have it. You can't be tolerant of new ideas if you don't understand them, that's why it seems more violent than usual.
Unfortunately and I mean this quite literally, adaption is closely related to intelligence and those types simply don't have it. You can't be tolerant of new ideas if you don't understand them, that's why it seems more violent than usual.
bijouxbroussard · F
Were we all that tolerant before ?
I may’ve missed it.
I may’ve missed it.
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@bijouxbroussard no but there wasnt the reach there is nowadays with communication
bijouxbroussard · F
@JSul3 They’re back out of the darkness. Some folks who remember Jim Crow are still living.
bijouxbroussard · F
@Primnproper They weren’t more tolerant, just limited to whom they could express their intolerance.
calicuz · 56-60, M
Less tolerant to ideas and opinions, more tolerant of violence.
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@calicuz very true..
Punches · 46-50, F
Overall more tolerant. Just right now we are going through a slump.
Sadly, I do for quite some time now!
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@Guardian yes it is sad..
Pfuzylogic · M
Yes and after 60 it became obvious.
Houdini · 56-60, M
Well I am
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@Houdini why do you think that is?
We are becoming more tolerant of some things, but less tolerant of other things. In western white society, individualism is the standard, so we generally tolerate people who don't fit in, broadly speaking. It's also of note that tolerance is not a virtue in itself. What are we tolerating? Should we tolerate hatred? Should we tolerate greed? Should we tolerate child rape? Should we tolerate polyamory? Should we tolerate genocide? No.
Unity is also a word people seem to think is inherently virtuous. Unified around what? And with who? Be a righteous person, and unify with the righteous around what is wholesome and upright.
I think tolerance of many wrong things has made the world bad. Sometimes, the wicked should be purged in mass. Would it be so bad if we had a mass murder of everyone involved in child sex trafficking, for instance? I don't think so.
Unity is also a word people seem to think is inherently virtuous. Unified around what? And with who? Be a righteous person, and unify with the righteous around what is wholesome and upright.
I think tolerance of many wrong things has made the world bad. Sometimes, the wicked should be purged in mass. Would it be so bad if we had a mass murder of everyone involved in child sex trafficking, for instance? I don't think so.
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@BRUUH i don't believe purging is at all the way to go..thats total barbarism ...i understand what you're saying but not your ideal of dealing with it.
ffony · M
That would depend on what specific (in)tolerance is being discusse; and who is the 'we' that's implied.
Elessar · 26-30, M
We're tolerating intolerance. As a consequence, we're losing tolerance.
JSul3 · 70-79
Humanity is on life support.
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@JSul3 that is also possible.

SW-User
Yes, especially being aware through media the crazy amount of "entitled" ones, like the so-called "Karens" and "Male Karens" who stir up trouble just to elevate themselves. However, we are also becoming more empathetic over the horrible treatment of humans and animals so perhaps we aren't too far gone to improve as a human race.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
It depends on the timeframe you are looking at. Are we more tolerant than ten years ago? Maybe not so much. Are we more tolerant than twenty years ago? I think so. Are we more tolerant than sixty years ago? There's no doubt.
I think Satanburger was correct that we are socially evolving to be more tolerant as we learn more. As communication tools like the internet allow barriers to shrink and disappear. As we find out that we have loved ones impacted by intolerance. And so on. There are more people today with friends in foreign nations than at any point in history since nations were constructed. It was only twenty years ago that US military service people could not express themselves as gay due to 'don't ask don't tell'.
And that in a desperate bid for relevance and to try to normalize their own behaviors, the intolerant are becoming increasingly vocal. As Ontheroad notes, the internet has become a tool for them to find and reinforce each other. A way to help them hide the fact that their population is shrinking by creating an ever louder echo chamber.
The line of progress is rarely straight in the positive direction. There are setbacks now and again and we're living through some presently. But so long as we keep fighting, history tends to favor us over the long term. So whatever you do, don't give up.
I think Satanburger was correct that we are socially evolving to be more tolerant as we learn more. As communication tools like the internet allow barriers to shrink and disappear. As we find out that we have loved ones impacted by intolerance. And so on. There are more people today with friends in foreign nations than at any point in history since nations were constructed. It was only twenty years ago that US military service people could not express themselves as gay due to 'don't ask don't tell'.
And that in a desperate bid for relevance and to try to normalize their own behaviors, the intolerant are becoming increasingly vocal. As Ontheroad notes, the internet has become a tool for them to find and reinforce each other. A way to help them hide the fact that their population is shrinking by creating an ever louder echo chamber.
The line of progress is rarely straight in the positive direction. There are setbacks now and again and we're living through some presently. But so long as we keep fighting, history tends to favor us over the long term. So whatever you do, don't give up.
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Primnproper · 56-60, F
@pdockal i totally agree with you there...i find myself in the same predicament.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Primnproper
Most average normal people are and we need to stop allowing it and stand up for OUR rights
Most average normal people are and we need to stop allowing it and stand up for OUR rights
jehova · 31-35, M
Probably
OogieBoogie · F
Yes.
We are going backwards.
Once we were about inclusion and moving into a era of equality and diversity .
Now we're over sensitive, all ego, all self absorbed and everyone has to change for our whims and fancies.
All while basic equality goes out the window.
We are going backwards.
Once we were about inclusion and moving into a era of equality and diversity .
Now we're over sensitive, all ego, all self absorbed and everyone has to change for our whims and fancies.
All while basic equality goes out the window.
Cloud7593 · 46-50, F
Gosh no. We tolerate more and more foolishness as times goes on.
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@Cloud7593 yes I tend to agree with that.
BabyLonia · F
Yes.... cannot wait until I'm a pensioner and get away with it
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TallMtnMedic · M
@NinaTina and it breeds!
Primnproper · 56-60, F
@NinaTina yes im afraid it is..
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iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
We definitely are becoming less tolerant. It feels like we are going back in time in regards to some issues.