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Cosmicmicrowave · 18-21, M
I agree with everyone else case besides mine well I am 18 but that is not the point

I agree. Parents shouldn't influence their children's choices and should let them figure things out for themselves. The first step would be to outlaw any exposure to religion until they're 18. It's not a coincidence that most people follow the religion they were raised in, because they were indoctrinated as children. Not exposing them to this indoctrination will allow children to freely choose their religion when they're adults.
@Torsten Hey, if the shoe fits. Going by the rhetoric I see in the comments section of right-wing news sites, there are people who at least wouldn't object if their trans neighbors were rounded up and executed.
@Spoiledbrat That's why I continued to go even after losing faith in God. I didn't want to upset my parents and it wasn't terribly inconvenient to go occasionally.
@DarkHeaven You should tag Torsten as he doesn't seem to be aware that happened.
Actually, when children were “treated like children" at least according to our country’s theists, they were to be ”seen and not heard". So you almost can’t have it both ways. If you think children should have a voice and be allowed opinions (and I [b]agree[/b] with you) you don’t want them treated in the traditional way many people here treated children.

What’s preferable is to treat them like [b]people[/b], because they [b]are[/b] going to need reasoning skills and the ability to think for themselves. Bullying them, threatening them with beatings might’ve made them fearful and easy to control, but I don’t I see that helping anyone become a well-functioning adult.

But you can find plenty of sexual fetishists coming from that background.
WaryWitchWandering · 36-40, F
@bijouxbroussard I try so hard to let my kids be heard and have a voice…
I talk so much with them about stuff. I try to be sure the thoughts that fuel the voice are good.

My kids can get wild as fuck… and I don’t mind that, until I’m scared someone is getting hurt or if they are being disrespectful. I’m more afraid of injury than anything else. My son is a bit over 2 and a half yrs old, he can climb our jungle gym (dome) in backyard and get himself all the way over and climb back down other side, he then tries to climb stuff and jump off furniture (that’s an immediate no from me)
@WaryWitchWandering I’ve read your posts about your children. Imo, you’re a great mother. 😊
Some of the childhoods people describe here (assuming they’re not just trying to shock) were pretty horrific. 😞
Torsten · 36-40, M
agreed. Adults need to stop trying to put so much on children and just let them be children. Its getting ridiculous
@Torsten The problem is that religious people and organizations hold themselves out as the arbiters of morality, while engaging in the same behavior they accuse others of. They're hypocrites.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@LeopoldBloom sounds like another group of people, one that you seem to align yourself with. Hypocrites indeed
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SW-User
I can only speak for myself . I raised my son to question everything ..have manners ..be respectful to everyone but don't let others take advantage...provide acts of service to the community...be yourself ..advocate for yourself ..speak up and be heard ...be kind..show compassion...be proud of who you are and where you come from and know you are seen ..cared for and loved no matter what .

I think all kids should be raised like this ..but that's just my opinion...
Convivial · 26-30, F
It's a fine line to tread, between allowing them to explore on their own and trying to keep them safe ...
@LeopoldBloom Exactly. In my office about 20 years ago, someone complained because a gay woman had a picture of herself with her partner on her desk.

There was nothing "suggestive" about the photo, they were simply smiling and standing together. After the complaint, made by one of the "church ladies" who was always fund-raising and selling dinners, the manager asked the woman to remove the picture.

But this was the SF Bay Area, and a union shop. I quietly called my best guy friend, a union officer, and had him meet with the woman against whom the complaint had been lodged, and the manager who had caved.

The office was told that any personal photos would have to be taken down lest grievances be filed for discrimination. The "church lady" withdrew her complaint, and [b]everyone’s[/b] photos remained.
@bijouxbroussard Good for you. The same rules have to apply to everyone.
@LeopoldBloom bijoux is one of my hero’s and a dear friend. I can’t even imagine a life where I hadn’t met her here. She’s definitely some one I come to for wisdom and certain perspectives that I can’t have myself but can understand to some degree with someone patient enough to share. She’s a big deal to me. 🖤
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
Really? I think kids today have it way easier than we had it as kids. They're practically carried around in bubbles.

I think education and guidance are absolutely CRUCIAL before the age of 10- teach them everything you can before that age because by 10, they are already on their way to becoming their own person, and if you gave them the right guidance and life tools/skills when they were little, they'll be alright.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
@Lanie78 marrying/having sex with/sexualizing minors
@Lanie78 I was in school long before the internet existed, and there was just as much if not more pressure to look and act a certain way. At least today there are more options and kids who are different can express themselves with less fear of bullying or even being murdered.
Lanie78 · 41-45, F
@DearAmbellina2113 Oh yes of course. Marrying minors is still legal unfortunately in many countries though. I'm some states in America also 😐
[quote]Don't subject them to anything they can't possibly process properly.[/quote]

so Keep them off the internet, unless constantly on monitored by the parents..

and ZERO Social Media sites and tool

they are NOT ready for that
chrisCA · M
@SatyrService True. Even if your child doesn't have a smart phone, their friends do. They are sharing and discussing the things that some of their parents have their head in the sand about.
Cosmicmicrowave · 18-21, M
@SatyrService I disagree strongly social media has help me connect to people I would have never met it is only if they become obsessed with it then they need to take a break
CestManan · 46-50, F
@SatyrService In a perfect world, yeah people could shelter their kids from things BUT there ain't no way. It is not possible to watch kids 24/7. We all used to sneak behind our own parents' backs to do things we were not suppose to.
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I think parents should raise their children how they wish. If they want to introduce their children to ideas you disagree with, that's their choice and I would say their right as that child's parent. Problems only arise when the state or other parents try to mandate things for children who aren't their own.
Lanie78 · 41-45, F
@SW-User Absurd no. Talking from experience regarding bullying and emotional neglect, plus being physically disciplined. It happens. Yes probably was more of a norm in the 70's/80's smacking etc. Yes parenting is complex. I don't parent how I was raised. Causes trauma, that isn't always displayed until adulthood.
Lanie78 · 41-45, F
@SW-User Good parenting is being able to parent fairly but without having resort to physical punishment/Silent treatment etc.
If you think that's absurd then 🤷
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@Lanie78 Every other parent in the world is different to your parents, because we're all different people. You may have had a negative experience of physical discipline, but that is subjective and not necessarily the case for others who experienced it in their childhood. In fact, I'm sure there are many who can testify to the positive impact of corporal punishment when it is used correctly. I know people in my family who can.
WaryWitchWandering · 36-40, F
This

My children can talk openly with me

They are allowed to have fun and I guide them while they figure things out

When they get carried away and I’m scared of injury… I tell them “STOP”

Sometimes they listen.,, sometimes they try to push past me… and I will again say “no more!… that’s enough!” that’s when I really get upset and things get taken away from them
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
It's been stated by some that children have a drug problem. They get drug everywhere by there parents to things that they may or may not be interested in. When my son was in 7th grade i recall a night when we attempted to get to violin lessons,piano lessons, soccer practice, karate lessons, cub scouts, and confirmation. After that i said, " pick two!". In the end he was an eagle scout and played in chamber orchestra. He even completed confirmation but has never set foot into a church since unless it was for a friend's wedding.
@Tastyfrzz I honestly thought about that. In the end, I decided I like the comfort of my own faith I was raised with, but with the caveats that a liberal church where I can feel acceptance.

Thank you for sharing your story and please keep sharing your message. We’ve got to speak louder than the hateful people that supposedly are Christians, so people can know us by our love once again. It’s important.

https://similarworlds.com/poetry/writing/poetr/4611028-you-follow-your-own-Jesus-you-say-that-youre-a-Christian-but
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@DarkHeaven https://www.unityminneapolis.org/
@Tastyfrzz ty. we are actually familiar and considered. light and love. 🌸
eMortal · M
No child should be climate activist at 10-16.
FragileHeart · 22-25, M
@eMortal Since climate activists cite studies and are backed by (Climate) scientists I feel like they know how to come to an informed opinion.
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BlueVeins · 22-25
@eMortal No child should have to be, but look where we are.
Elessar · 26-30, M
So you're suggesting that puritan parents shouldn't be able to b*tch and decide for them what they may or may not learn in school, and get teachers suspended for showing a XV century statue over claims of "pornography"?

F*cking hell, it would make a lot of sense.
Lanie78 · 41-45, F
@Elessar Nothing pornographic should be taught in primary schools. Yes children need to be educated but sensibly. They don't need to be taught about different genders or anything that they couldn't possibly process properly at a young age. Where's the sense in that? How is warping a child's mind healthy?
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Lanie78 So you're in contradiction with your initial post, exactly as I expected. You don't agree with parents who influence the children choices, except when it's for censoring whatever contradicts a right-wing political agenda 😅
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Lanie78 For the record, there's nothing pornographic about Michelangelo's David. We're speaking of a statue that has gone through the Christian inquisition era just fine, for saying how extremist modern American """christians""" have become
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
Let kids be kids for Pete’s sakes.
revenant · F
Hmmm too many children now are viewed as adults and adults are treated like children.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@revenant and they ask develop at different rates anyway
xalvaethion · 22-25, F
@revenant A percentage of adult and adult authorities governing a body of people of all ages have expressed questionable suggestions, call for an unreliable change, and have acted out, and had a history of dishonesty and malicious deeds. It all leads to the question of what are the values they were raised with. The adults are producing a generation lesser than they are.
revenant · F
@xalvaethion I agree with your last sentence.
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Lanie78 · 41-45, F
@jshm2 You're one angry individual. I honestly don't think you read or interpret posts properly at all. Kindly don't bother commenting any further. I just find you rude, and unhelpful to everyone you reply to!
Dawgsfan3 · 41-45, M
I'd put society's decline due in larger part to lack of parenting and discipline rather than an over obsessive control of children and their choices
@BeefySenpie And of course, you completely ignore the societal factors that contribute to a "lack of parenting." Maybe if people didn't have to work 3 jobs just to pay rent, they could parent their kids more. But if anyone says that the solution is raising the minimum wage and taxing billionaires, they're called a "socialist."
xalvaethion · 22-25, F
Yes. Adults expect children to be adults when they were treated as children all their life that are insignificant and their thinking is limited to their age.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
Lanie, children are stupid. We have to tell them what's right and wrong.
Lanie78 · 41-45, F
@MartinTheFirst Wrong. Children are actually very clever.
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MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@nonsensiclesnail Yeah sure, all you've met are little einsteins
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Lanie78 · 41-45, F
@ravenhill I'm entitled to my opinion. Don't like it, then jog on. Simples.

 
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