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Children aren't allowed to be children anymore.

I believe children should be allowed to have a voice, opinions. No child should have to suffer in silence.
Children should be allowed to be happy, and be listened to.

However, I don't agree with parents who influence their childrens choices.
Let them figure it out for themselves.

Don't subject them to anything they can't possibly process properly. Growing up is tough enough as it is.

Just be a responsible adult/parent.

Not difficult.
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I agree. Parents shouldn't influence their children's choices and should let them figure things out for themselves. The first step would be to outlaw any exposure to religion until they're 18. It's not a coincidence that most people follow the religion they were raised in, because they were indoctrinated as children. Not exposing them to this indoctrination will allow children to freely choose their religion when they're adults.
@LeopoldBloom I respectfully disagree. But I know you’re just talking this position because it’s as outlandish as all of the others. Be well, my friend. ☮️
@JustGoneNow Yes, I'm not being serious. I just want to show how absurd the OP's position is. Of course people think kids should be allowed to choose their positions freely in some areas while being indoctrinated in others. The only question is which areas should be in each category.
@LeopoldBloom This is why I enjoy your debates. You totally get the nuance. Sorry, I didn’t respond to your PM. I suffer a lot of very severe mental illness issues and paranoia and PM is just not really good for me. I only have just a handful of people that I PM with and I have known them for years and they understand my issues, including my ghosting everything sometimes for a month or better. It’s totally not you and totally me and I hope you understand.
@JustGoneNow That's fine, thanks for explaining. When someone doesn't respond to a PM and I have no reason they're upset with me, I just assume that they didn't get to it. I know some people on here who get dozens of PMs and literally can't keep up.

I'm sorry you have to deal with that condition. If you ever do want to talk about it privately, please feel free to reach out.
@LeopoldBloom I’ve actually discussed many of my issues on thread, to maybe give folks that have no experience some understanding about people like me. It’s just safer for me to keep my PM very limited. Thank you for understanding and I actually discuss a lot fairly openly.

https://similarworlds.com/thoughts/personal-feelings/4341117-Whats-schizophrenia-and-mental-illness-like-for
@LeopoldBloom BRAVO! mr Bloom
BRAVO
this wise person explains it well
[media=https://youtu.be/RlbUw5hjeKI]
Lanie78 · 46-50, F
@LeopoldBloom Wanting your children to grow up without having to be exposed to things they can't fully understand isn't absurd. It's common sense, and being a responsible parent.
@Lanie78 That’s so vague as to mean almost nothing. What exact things are we talking about… and decided by whom? The devil is always in the details.
@SatyrService Interesting to watch and while I do agree on some level, I also think it must be mentioned that a lot of the facts presented were for more extremist faiths, positions, and churches. I was raised Catholic and still not only allowed but encouraged to ask questions and even consider other faiths. If someone was raised in a political party household like I’ve presented for my faith, not only would no one blink an eye but I’m 💯 positive that some are currently doing that politically now. In life, things are almost always a matter of degrees.
@Lanie78 You can't protect children from things "they can't understand." If they truly don't understand them, it will go over their heads. Or, you can cultivate a relationship with them where they will come to you first and ask you to explain things they've encountered. If you haven't developed that kind of relationship, that's on you.

Otherwise, you will have to homeschool them and strictly limit their access to the internet. But be aware, if you do that, they will figure out ways to access it anyway behind your back.
@LeopoldBloom Kids find a way. Guidance not avoidance is key. ✌️
@JustGoneNow Exactly. And that goes for anything they learn in school, too.
@LeopoldBloom 💯 Kids learn a ton of trash in school… usually by other kids, not well meaning educators, but you can’t really legislate the other children, so guidance is everything for a parent.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom [media=https://youtu.be/wv6bB8EN2lA]
I grew up going to church and stopped going when I was 18 and not one person in my family objected to it. I was fully free to do what I wanted as far as making my own choices and living my life how I chose. I didn't ask or even think twice about it. I was just working and busy. Not everyone who went to church as a child feels like they were instructed to believe a certain way. I was simply taught what was in a book and what was believed to be true. There is nothing wrong with that and there isn't a right or wrong way. People simply do what they feel is best. We still have free will. @LeopoldBloom
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Lanie78 Have you ever met a child? They can barely understand anything! And if we didn't introduce them to more stuff, they'd never develop that capability.
Lanie78 · 46-50, F
@BlueVeins Erm....as a mother to three children yes I'd say I have.... 🤔 worked in schools also with children with all abilities. Children learn, and are very intelligent. We don't need to teach them things they do not need to know about from a young age though. My point.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Lanie78 They don't learn if you don't introduce them to things they can't understand yet. Crazy how you could spend all that time around children and not understand them.
Lanie78 · 46-50, F
@BlueVeins Have you children? Of course I understand them. Hence why I don't think they need to be exposed to gender terminology or taught in depth about such things. All education needs to be age appropriate.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Lanie78 I've taught kids before. I don't necessarily have any issue with raising kids non-binary; maybe they'd all be better off without that whole arbitrary set of social standards, and they can learn about gender as adults.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@BlueVeins after reading that, i feel bad for any kid you "taught".
Lanie78 · 46-50, F
@BlueVeins Well that's fair enough but I still think it causes confusion. Growing up (puberty years especially) can be confusing enough without the whole trans/non binary and other terminology thrown in the mix. I worry that some are swayed by outside sources such as social media etc. It's all down to personal choice at the end of the day but if it is taught from a young age, children could be swayed and so it's not actually then their choice 🤷
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Torsten They learned to perform satanic rituals and crucify NIMBYs.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Lanie78 In terms of gender and stuff, I think the sway of outside forces overwhelmingly favors joining one over not doing so. I mean, from a young age, I was bought male-coded clothing by my parents, I was taught to do yardwork while my sister wasn't. I was never told by any of my family members to shave my pits by either my parents or the broader culture, but if I had been a girl, I would have. In most TV shows and movies I had seen, typically more violent and bold heroes were males, while more nurturing characters were women. It seems like the cult of gender is responsible for the vast majority of the indoctrination here.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@BlueVeins you prob told them Satan was a black non binary lesbian who also identified as a 12 year old 😆