Is it time to ban church in the US?

@CestManan I don't see the guidance of religion as similar because sexuality is instinctual, there need not be any instruction whereas children need role models on conduct within society. And the journey of sexuality is a personal one that has no effect on another person unlike how we live our lives outwardly where the youth pastor would be concerned.

@Jackaloftheazuresand I think I got, some of that.

@Imsleepy you’re not wrong.

@sarabee1995 eternally grateful.

@DarkHeaven It's important to us both. 🤗

@sarabee1995 yes it is. thank you.

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@PrincessOfHell Not correct to make that statement about all churches. There was institutional coverup in the Catholic church which is appropriately well-publicised, but it did not occur in most catholic churches. If you want to call abuse institutionalised then you'd have to say schools: "A 1993 study performed by the American Association of University Women examined seventy-nine state schools in the United States and found that 9.6% of students reported sexual abuse by teachers in the school setting." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_in_primary_and_secondary_schools. This includes coverup within schools. It has a higher incidence than churches.
There has always been institutional coverup in schools, orphanages, churches, social work, disability workers, sporting clubs. "Potential perpetrators often choose educational or therapeutic professions or (voluntary) fields of activity that make it possible to approach children and adolescents easily and continuously. They benefit from the good reputation of the educational, religious or sporting institutions, which includes them through being employed there and the resulting trust that parents place in them." (https://beauftragte-missbrauch.de/en/themen/definition/where-does-abuse-occur)
The greatest risk of sexual abuse is in the family, by a long way. You missed the point: it mostly happens [u]wherever [/u]people are in a position of trust. Singling out the church above other institutions doesn't equate with statistics.

@MasterLee well said

@BigGuy2 Exactly man

@Emosaur Hey, so I'm going to have to step in and say not all Christians are like that. Some of them ignore Old Testament crap that goes against "love thy neighbor".

@LordShadowfire I just follow Jesus.

https://similarworlds.com/poetry/writing/poetr/4611028-you-follow-your-own-Jesus-you-say-that-youre-a-Christian-but

@Freeranger well said ... a Voice of Reason 👍👍👍

... the lamestream media has called these Drag Queen sessions 'family-friendly' and NO, i'm not joking

@Emosaur ....and you're my toilet paper Holmes. Swiping...

@Emosaur think however makes you get your rocks off!

@Emosaur whatever you say

@Emosaur The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

@Mardrae ... obviously you can't see what's happening - the cry will be "let's ban Christianity, but leave all other religions alone"

@revenant Religion is not needed, and the rest of your response makes no sense and has nothing to do with the reason for this suggestion. Are you saying you condone raping children????

@Jeephikelove do not twist my words and read again what you wrote.

I think I am being clear enough and do not need to have false words put into my mouth.

@revenant 🙄👍

@Emosaur Religion can't be banned.

@SexyLesGirl13
Books can be preverted
Men (&women) can manipulate followers to their will
Unless you actually live the religion your an outsider and aren't qualified to comment unless you have a PHD in religious studies

@pdockal the books are written and kept by muslims. are you telling me reading and understanding a text is invalid unless you are phd? lol

that's why so many trust phdS during the covid scamdemic thats why so many are dying of cancer... from the gene therapy lol

@pdockal do you know anything about who Ibn ‘Abbâs is as an example?

@Adogslife Maybe like pagan religions that have equal reverence for female divinity? Any religion that stems from the patriarchy of Yaweh certainly not.

@Miram 💯

@Convivial that’s some big generalizations. But I do agree where a church was culpable… they should also be held to account… but only if they are culpable. None of us deserves to be guilty, merely by association.

@DarkHeaven just a thought on my part ...

@Convivial I’m just saying. I go to church. I have faith. This doesn’t represent us all. I volunteer at both the homeless shelter and soup kitchen where I live. That’s my message.

Someone some where is always going to abuse it. There is always going to be that one or few people that do because people are human. @badminton

@iamonfire696 @DarkHeaven Trans people are a convenient group to attack.

They're easily recognized by their distinctive dress and appearance.
There aren't many of them, so they're easy to gang up on.
People may be afraid to defend them, for fear of being attacked themselves.
They are accused of "corrupting society" just by existing.

Sound familiar? It's the same playbook the Nazis used against Jews in the 1930s.

@LeopoldBloom You’re exactly right and I don’t want to live through that. History should not repeat itself.

@LeopoldBloom Take a misunderstood and already marginalized group, give them some kind of false epic powers (supposedly the media and judges forcing us to accept some Trans agenda that nobody can quite explain,) and then purport your group as the only ones to save us from this threat. It’s exactly like what happened to the Jews in Germany. Bigoted people tend to be bigoted to many groups, so the very marginalized trans community is the canary in the coal mine. It’s like I’ve said many times to my good trans friend. So go Trans rights, so go all minorities rights. Not that it’s right to persecute any group but anyone that thinks they will stop with Trans rights is very, very shortsighted.

@uncalled4 that I 💯 agree with.

@Emosaur you are just rambling nonsense as usual.

Your limited intelligence does not distinguish between nuances and nothing I can do about that.

@iamonfire696 child abuse is child abuse. You mentioned trans people as if that has no right to be in the discussion of child abuse and i corrected you on that.
You also claimed trans people are not sex offenders, I corrected you on that also

You mention abortions randomly but again kinda fitting. Cant claim you care about children when you support killing them before they are even born 🤷‍♂️

yeah child abuse and sexual assault happens in churches and I condemn that also.
I dont make excuses for it or try shifting the subject away from that and towards other child sexual abuse situations.
People who do that dont give a shit about children and dont try telling me different.
I am done with ya. Clearly there is no getting through to you. You're lost

@Torsten you and I see things differently and there’s no getting through to you.

Please be done with me because you spew hate and are obsessed with talking about trans people which is so strange.

The 2 men that sexually abused me as a child were not Trans or gay, they were white straight men.

I feel sorry for you. Goodbye

@iamonfire696 uggh why does so many people do that? why do you all try playing the victim card when it has no place in the discussion?
I can play that game also if you like but I guess i hold myself to a much higher level.

I never claimed all sexual assault happens due to trans people. Lets get that straight right now. You bringing up your experience played no part in this discussion and was not some gotcha moment.
We have talked about it before though and you know how i feel about it but it plays no part in this convo.

You say i am obsessed with trans people. Yeah because its all constantly shoved in my face. Same with the lgbt stuff. its everywhere but if you actually read what i write you would see i am not against them in general, I am against certain things. But hey you are free to have that cult like mentality where if you dont support us in every single way, you are against us..

dont feel sorry for me. there is nothing to feel sorry about. Feel sorry for yourself if you are looking for somebody to put that shit onto

@BigGuy2 No, it's conservatives who are sexually abusing and raping children. Here's a list.

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Schools are not "pushing" kids to transition. There have always been trans kids; the reason you didn't know about it was until recently, they risked violence or even death if anyone found out.

More kids have been raped in church than at Drag Queen Story Hour.

@LeopoldBloom you live in a quaint World if you think it's ONLY Conservatives that are Pedo's ... IF there has 'always' been trans kids, why exactly have parents just SUDDENLY woken up to all this ... are you stating that school/parent board meetings is a new concept

@BigGuy2 There seem to be a lot more conservative pedos.

The reason you're hearing more about trans people now is because they're not in as much danger of being murdered as they were in the past. People used to keep it hidden.

@Emosaur ... look up the definition of the word 'your' first then get back to me

@Emosaur 👍

@revenant they aren't being serious but they're still an extremist. Any sane person would be able to realize that child abuse is a general issue, and pedophilia in relation to LGBT is debatable because some people find it inappropriate when children are exposed to things of an adult nature.

Regarding guns, does anyone ever question how much crime they prevent?

@SW-User Exactly. You can see it with your first paragraph ! Nothing to add there.

I do not live in a gun country so I am pretty much drawing a blank there.

@SW-User ... we need to be asking the criminals "will you stop using guns if a Law banned all guns"

THINGS THAT WILL NEVER GET ASKED ... of criminals anyway