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Facebook Violating 1st Amendment?

I know, they're a private company, blah, blah blah.

But, if they provided a special portal to the federal government so the government can tell Facebook to silence a particular user, does that constitute a violation of the 1st Amendment?



Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai ran for US Senate in Massachusetts as a Republican and made allegations of voter fraud on Twitter. These tweets were then deleted by the far-left tech giant. Later it was discovered that they were deleted at the direction of government employees of the Massachusetts Secretary of State’s office.

Discovering this, Dr. Ayyadurai filed a federal lawsuit by himself, alleging that his federal civil rights were violated when the government silenced his political speech in order to affect an election.

In late July 2021, Dr. Shiva released another explosive report.

Dr. Shiva revealed how election officials and government actors work together to coordinate with social media platforms to silence speech in America.


Facebook apparently still has something similar
https://www.facebook.com/xtakedowns/login
The tide is turning the other way now, and other sites are gonna let free speech reign.
Budwick · 70-79, M
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@YourMomsSecretCrush Yes, so there can be more open hate speech, that is true freedom!
TexChik · F
Tweets are no longer being censored
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Jeephikelove It was on January 20th when they banned me. I think they wanted to put an end to the discussion of the Jan 6 thing discussion by Trump followers and just promote their own narrative.
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PatKirby · M
@cherokeepatti

Exactly. It's a Kangaroo Court with the outcome never in doubt.

graphite · 61-69, M
Imagine you're on the phone and you tell somebody "2+2=5" and an ATT operator breaks in and says, "2+2=4." That's Facebook, getting involved in conversations that are none of its damn business.
Fairydust · F
@graphite

more like the other way round, you’re saying it’s "2+2=4." And Fakebook saying it’s "2+2=5" lol 😂
graphite · 61-69, M
@Fairydust "Our professional, unbiased fact checkers insist it is 5!"
Fairydust · F
@graphite I’ve been in jail many times lol!! Love to see Zuckerberg in jail! 😎
Barefooter25 · 46-50, M
Mark Zukerberg spent millions of dollars stealing the 2020 elections and silencing conservatives on Facebook trying to prove the Democrats cheated. Violating the First Amendment is childsplay when it comes to Facebook.
graphite · 61-69, M
@Barefooter25 Zuckerberg is such a good, diversity-living Democrat. https://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/news-trends/article/3009010/why-mark-zuckerberg-buys-properties-surround-his-10
carpediem · 61-69, M
So Twitter was bought out after substantial censorship. And Meta (FB) is now circling the drain losing revenue, overspending and dealing with a crashing stock price. "Go woke go broke" seems to have more going for it than just a classy slogan. It's encouraging to see the leftist mob being denied the censorship they desperately need to spread their evil methodology.
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carpediem · 61-69, M
@Stereoguy From your mouth to God’s ears.
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graphite · 61-69, M
Democrats and their utter contempt for freedom of speech. Anything they don't like they think they can ban as "hate speech." Whatever the hell that is.
PatKirby · M
@graphite

Hate speech is apparently anytime a leftist opens their mouth.
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
the problem with social media is that if they were upholding any sense of equity, they'd censor all political speech, rather than be politically biased. While censoring in itself isn't against the 1st Amendment, using it to push a false narrative is.

The 1st Amendment doesn't provide any protections for incitement of violence, false statements of fact, obscenity, copyright/intellectual property infringement, false advertising, etc.

vis-à-vis, all or nothing. If shitbook were concerned about proving a friendly, friends & family oriented social media, they'd censor & ban all hate speech, instead of speech based on bias.

If "maga" is considered an extremist group, then by their very own definition, so is blm, antifa, and any other leftist organization that promotes defamation of Trump & Trump supporters.

The lack of acknowledgement of that fact is why social media is losing it's credibility (and company/stock stability...). People are fed up, either they'll smarten up or go down in flames like twitter...
PatKirby · M
@wildbill83

They do this to basically get around their inability to win over the crowd. God forbid the right does this, the left would get their asses handed to them.

Kinda like the NFL playing a varsity NCAA team - kaput.
Carissimi · F
FB and Twitter are colluding with government to censor whatever and whoever they want. Hard evidence was released by “The Intercept,” a Leftist news media. It shows that the lawyer who was just fired from Twitter (can’t recall her name) had monthly meetings with Homeland Security. They have documents proving all this. They released them yesterday. This is in violation of the Constitution and these people need to be in prison.
graphite · 61-69, M
@Carissimi More specifically, they are colluding with the Democrat-run federal government... No Democrat is going to prison for corruption. Prosecution is for Republicans, only.
PatKirby · M
Good question. Free speech has been slowly eroding, especially in the last ten/twenty years. I believe one of the problems, and this is a clever work around for these tech giants, is that they function as a public company in order to get maximum click traffic, yet they set themselves up as private companies with limited liability so they can basically do what they want with impunity. This method appears to be an intentional move so they can sneak around the 1st Amendment. The end net result is the curtailing of free speech.

There is no automatic trigger besides an apparent legal threshold that brings immediate public attention to this important issue unless someone of consequence notices and is willing to bring it to the consciousness of the general public. Again done through that same medium - public discourse itself where that free speech is modulated and even threatened. A bit of a paradox one might say. With the election coming up soon it does appear that those who most care about this issue and will both bring attention to and fight for the 1st Amendment are thankfully speaking up.

I see stronger headwinds for the good ole' 1st Amendment on the way real soon. Enough is enough. The left needs to grow up and leave behind their infantile presumptions that they have the right to 1) control other people's lives, 2) never hear other people's opinions, and 3) there are two sets of rules - one for them and one for everyone else. Furthermore, grow beyond their entitled expectation that when they're offended, others have to care. The left is not a prima donna sent from heaven here to lecture and codify their childish views of social order into law, or throw tantrums. The time has come to put up or shut up.
WintaTheAngle · 41-45, M
Because of the first sentence in your post - no they’re not.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@WintaTheAngle The problem is with government Winta. THEY are the one I am suggesting violated 1st Amendment Rights.
WintaTheAngle · 41-45, M
@Budwick Then take it up with government. Whining about it here isn’t going to change anything.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@WintaTheAngle
Whining about it here isn’t going to change anything.

I suppose you are right.
I should go to that secret portal on Fakebook to get a direct line to the Feds!
They've been hiding behind the "private companies can do what they want" shield while openly carrying water and providing funding to the left. Those days are numbered.

Zuckerberg's net worth is down to $36 billion. That's $6 billion less than the amount Elon paid for Twitter. LOL
graphite · 61-69, M
Facebook is like visiting a prisoner at the local prison. There's a guard listening in to the conversation.
4meAndyou · F
I remember Dr. Shiva. I voted for him in the last election, but unfortunately he didn't win. I had no idea that big tech and government were colluding together to try to swing the election...but that is perfectly plausible based on recently exposed corruption.

We NOW know that government bureaus such as the FBI are corrupt as hell, and are willing to sacrifice their own employees, who must later fall on their own swords after obeying corrupt orders. 2020 proved FBI suppression of news about Hunter Biden's laptop on social media platforms.

If the FBI will do that, I would be wiling to believe, with NO problem, that the Secretary of State of Massachusetts and Facebook colluded to suppress Dr. Shiva's first amendment rights.
SW-User
Budwick. Never gets tired of always being right.
SW-User
@Budwick You know much more about just about everything.

Look, I have to go to sleep eventually. :)

I was BlueBean, Bub... so many more mischievous fucks on Amirite.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@SW-User OK, good night!
SW-User
@Budwick Just as long as you know who you're dealing with.
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
The NRA has been doing far worse for years and you lot haven't noticed.
@Thevy29 Huh. The NRA protects the 2nd Amendment. While big tech violates the 1st Amendment. Yeah...the NRA is horrible. 🙄
TheDisciplinarian · 61-69, M
And what ?
You are Surprised by it

He is Suing and will Win
SW-User
It's strange looking at all this from the outside America is weird
SW-User
@SW-User I live here and I don't get it
SW-User
@SW-User oh no!
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@SW-User it is part of a move towards either a theocracy or a totalitarian government.
Spotpot · 41-45, M
Facebook is a private company the first amendment only applies to goverment.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Spotpot I wonder, did you read the post?
The government is/was telling twitter and fakebook to silence particular users.
SW-User
Pffffttttt!

 
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