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Economic War

CANADA is now in an economic war with the world bully. Canada, buy Canadian. Canadian women don't buy American beauty products. Take pride in your beautiful Canadian faces!. Buy nothing American. Keep calm and be Canadian!!!
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
I watched an interview with Mark Carney last night. It was the coolest, most measured and rational response you could hope to hear at a time of immense political stress. No bluster, no covering-up, just confident, responsible statesmanship. Made me feel quite optimistic after the past week.

He was a superb Governor of the Bank of England (although politically unpopular because of his warnings about the economic impact of Brexit) and I think his time has come.

Good luck. The rest of the world is behind you.
@pdqsailor1 OK, well I don't talk to racists such as yourself, so we'll leave it at that.
swirlie · F
@Mesthartiya
Conservatism and Liberalism are not Races Mesthartiya, they're political ideologies unto themselves!
@swirlie Looks like I've been blocked by the racist :)
JamesBugman · 56-60, T
Keep in mind how Tariffs work. When goods are sold from Canada to US, the US buyers take 25% of the cost and give it to the US government where it will go to T Rumps private bank account someplace.. I am guessing it will be one of the countries he just deported everyone to, but it could be anywhere.
Now the US buyers will not like this and will try to force Canada to reduce their cost by 25%, but that will be impossible in most situations, so the Canadian side will stop selling those goods to US and try to find other markets. Many of them will go out of business.
This is supposed to force the US to start making these products themselves, but of course that will never happen in the 4 years T Rump is in office so all that will happen is that Canada will lose a market, and the US will see shortages in nearly everything that used to come from Canada, like Maple Syrup.
Now the oil is a different matter since Canada only owns 20% of our own oil resources and the US owns most of the rest. This is why the Tariff was reduced to 10%. T Rump didn't want everyone to pick up on the fact the US already owns all the Canadian oil. They just need to figure out how to get it down to the States so they can add it to their reserves for later. Meanwhile the Alberta premier is a total redneck T Rumper too, who supports the US owning everything and will defend their rights to have it all. I wonder how much they pay him to be so hard-line about it. Anyways, that is the current situation.
helenS · 36-40, F
@swirlie One essential element is missing in your definition: the existence of a paramilitary militia, used to intimidate, hurt, and kill, such as the camicie nere in Italy or the stormtroopers in Germany:
Fascism


Fascists kill. First by the hundreds, then by the thousands, then by the millions.
Contemporary right-wing populism is ugly enough, but it's not on the same level.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@helenS Brownshirts are common in fascist movements, but not actually part of the definition.

Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition

Comparing a government against Nazi Germany or Italy to see if they're fascist isn't really sensible, since these two movements are extreme endpoints of fascism. It's like saying a storm only counts as a storm if its windspeeds are as fast as a category 5 hurricane.

Having said that, the term 'protofascist' is a more precise way of referring to the kinda of early-stage fascism represented by people like Trump and Lukashenko... but the term is also used to specifically refer to pre-1920s fascism, which obviously this is not.
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robertsnj · 56-60, M
actually the largest importer of oil to the USA is Canada with a staggering 50 percent plus import. Oil, is inelastic in demand meaning even with price hikes from tariffs US will have to consume oil at the higher prices / having a small marginal impact on Canadian export of oil.

It will be interesting to see if the oil exports will drop, I am hoping they do not (despite paying more) because my countries plan B for oil shortages is to invade and pillage another country and steal their oil (like in Iraq)

in a scary way it feels like the plan B might be in motion in an incognitio sense. If I lived in Angola, Columbia or other I would be really nervous right now. I wouldn't put Brazil in a safe space even.
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Thrust · 56-60, M
@robertsnj

the crude oil we produce is mostly unusuable domestically

Wow. So every bit of oil we've harvested has been useless. You'd think after all these decades we'd have figured it out

The Dunning Kruger is strong here
robertsnj · 56-60, M
@Thrust mostly is the wrong word choice and the economics of the USA's input / export is hard to qualify in a post but well worth the rabbit hole.
Northwest · M
Don't punish all of us. Keep the Maple Syrup flowing. I'll pay the extra 25%.
@Northwest Buy your maole syrup from VT .. Morse Farms if you want a specific reference
Northwest · M
@BrandNewMan My source is short drive across the border, which is 3,000 miles closer.
@Northwest They do mail order .. just saying there are options
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
I have never liked bullies of any kind. This situation is horrible in so many ways. I really pray that this doesn't lead to a world wide global economic disaster. I wonder how many innocent people willl be hurt by this policy?
JamesBugman · 56-60, T
@Thrust The biggest terrorists these days are all Republicans. The drugs are coming no matter what you do, the police have given up. Short of taking over the countries where it is being made, you will always have fentanyl. Besides lots of people use it for suicide.
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samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Thrust until "we" deal with the demand for the drugs, there will always be those who find a way to supply it. For gtoo long the US approach has been almost purely one of law enforcement. The war on drugs was lost decades ago.
WillaKissing · 56-60, M
Sorry Brother.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@WillaKissing I have no quarrel with you my friend. :)
WillaKissing · 56-60, M
@JimboSaturn Oh, I know that. I just hate seeing this happen with Canada is all. I could care less about the rest of the Tariff affected nations.
I have nothing against Canadians or Their products ...I'll still buy them
Royrogers · 61-69, M
Democracy and the EU in one sentence haha very good
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
@helenS He was there to RACE not to mess around.. The King is the real deal and when I say he is a sailor, well I believe he came in second in the series and not by much either.. He was there to win. He knows what he is doing and he is good at it.. The love and respect the Cadets on the yacht show his 8M... they take their shoes off and wear socks while fastening it securely on deck for the ocean crossing so as to not make a mark in their King's boat...
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
@helenS So the same shop that builds the masts for our fleet of 8M's ( - the Kings class of yacht) built the new custom mast for our boat... ny comment on this shop is they don't make masts so much as boat jewellery.. I am and have been a very much blessed fellow - the difference is I actually KNOW this...

One day on my way to the airport years ago my driver (regular driver) says guess who I am driving later today? I don't have a clue so he says "Ted Turner" - so I say, please say hello to Ted for me.. He says "YOU know Ted Turner? " I say yes I met him while sailing out of Chicago and I was given the tour of his boat (Tenacious) in Grosse Point MI... We raced against him... So later that day he is driving Ted and says he has regards from a client.. he asked how his client knew him.. and his response was "he says you are one of the best sailors in the world"..(Ted won the Americas cup on Courageous in 1977) And Ted is flattened and says "that is how he knows me?" he said yes.. he was very warmly touched by this...
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@helenS the EU is not democratic. The EU commission decides what the EU is to do and all the member states are expected to enforce it. This has nothing to do with the US
Thrust · 56-60, M
Keep emoting Clarence 🤡
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@Thrust that is meaningless to me
WandererTony · 56-60, M
It is interesting. Am curious to see where it ends.
KingofBones1 · 46-50, M
I can say the same about canada. Domt buy cheap steel. Chinese synthetic honey or fentynal laced drugs. For the past thirty years canada has been economically screwing us. Just like products En hecho Mexico
Pretzel · 61-69, M
I don't suppose you'd take us as your 11th province would you?

Nah, didn't think so.

Who needs this box of crazy?
Thrust · 56-60, M
@Pretzel

Nithing's stopping you from going 👋
Pretzel · 61-69, M
@Thrust play nice
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
And shut down ALL oil and electricity sales to the USA immediately... ALL of it.. RTFN
swirlie · F
@JamesBugman

Trump didn't want everyone to pick up on the fact the US already owns all the Canadian oil.

Wrong again, JamesBugman. The US government does not own any of the Canadian oil. Canada owns all of it's natural resources. US oil companies are invested in the Canadian oil sands project, but the US government is not because the US government is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, not financial wealth. You need to stop focusing your idle attention on those right-wing conspiracy websites that you love to hang out in.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/always-wrong-trump-freaks-out-on-wall-street-journal-over-brutal-tariff-criticism/ar-AA1yhhgZ?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=33c75615ae794205bf7fade67379a1ea&ei=9
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JamesBugman · 56-60, T
@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays Wow, with that list I think this might actually work out well for Canada.
@JamesBugman Canada might be facing a population boom without American condoms. 🤣
Lhayezee · 26-30, F
@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays Thanks ChatGPT 👍
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