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Economic War

CANADA is now in an economic war with the world bully. Canada, buy Canadian. Canadian women don't buy American beauty products. Take pride in your beautiful Canadian faces!. Buy nothing American. Keep calm and be Canadian!!!
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JamesBugman ยท 56-60, T
Keep in mind how Tariffs work. When goods are sold from Canada to US, the US buyers take 25% of the cost and give it to the US government where it will go to T Rumps private bank account someplace.. I am guessing it will be one of the countries he just deported everyone to, but it could be anywhere.
Now the US buyers will not like this and will try to force Canada to reduce their cost by 25%, but that will be impossible in most situations, so the Canadian side will stop selling those goods to US and try to find other markets. Many of them will go out of business.
This is supposed to force the US to start making these products themselves, but of course that will never happen in the 4 years T Rump is in office so all that will happen is that Canada will lose a market, and the US will see shortages in nearly everything that used to come from Canada, like Maple Syrup.
Now the oil is a different matter since Canada only owns 20% of our own oil resources and the US owns most of the rest. This is why the Tariff was reduced to 10%. T Rump didn't want everyone to pick up on the fact the US already owns all the Canadian oil. They just need to figure out how to get it down to the States so they can add it to their reserves for later. Meanwhile the Alberta premier is a total redneck T Rumper too, who supports the US owning everything and will defend their rights to have it all. I wonder how much they pay him to be so hard-line about it. Anyways, that is the current situation.
@JamesBugman Your post contains several misconceptions and inaccuracies regarding tariffs, international trade, and resource ownership between Canada and the United States. Hereโ€™s a breakdown to clarify:

1. How Tariffs Actually Work:

Tariffs are taxes imposed by a government on imported goods. If the U.S. imposes a 25% tariff on goods from Canada, the U.S. government collects this tax from the U.S. importer, not the Canadian seller.

The money does not go to any private bank account. It goes to the U.S. Treasury, which funds government operations. Claims about funds going to personal accounts are unfounded.

2. Impact of Tariffs:

U.S. buyers/importers bear the initial cost of the tariff, but they may pass it on to consumers through higher prices.

Some U.S. buyers might negotiate lower prices with Canadian sellers, but Canadian companies are not obligated to reduce prices. If itโ€™s not profitable, they may seek other markets.

3. Domestic Production:

The goal of tariffs can be to encourage domestic production by making foreign goods more expensive. However, shifts in production take time and may not happen within a specific administrationโ€™s term.

4. Oil Ownership and Trade:

The statement that "the U.S. owns most of Canada's oil resources" is incorrect.

Canada owns its oil resources, and they are primarily controlled by Canadian companies and provincial governments, especially in Alberta. Some U.S. companies invest in Canadian oil projects, but this is through legal business investmentsโ€”not ownership of the resources themselves.

5. U.S.-Canada Energy Relationship:

The U.S. and Canada have a mutually beneficial energy trade relationship. Canada exports significant amounts of oil to the U.S., but this is due to economic agreements, not resource ownership.

6. Political Allegations:

Claims about political figures being paid off or supporting foreign interests without evidence are speculative and lack credible backing.
JamesBugman ยท 56-60, T
@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays Read all about it.

https://www.straight.com/finance/report-shows-70-percent-of-canadian-oilsands-production-is-owned-by-foreign-companies-and#
Thrust ยท 56-60, M
@JamesBugman ๐Ÿคก๐Ÿคก๐Ÿคก
JimboSaturn ยท 56-60, M
@JamesBugman Im aware
JimboSaturn ยท 56-60, M
@Thrust Being in a civilizated country your reference is meaningless to me
Thrust ยท 56-60, M
@JimboSaturn sure thing. So civilized your nepo kid leader had to be swept out with the trash

EL OH EL
helenS ยท 36-40, F
@JimboSaturn I'd greatly appreciate if Canada extended its financial, economic, cultural and even (oh yes!) political connections to the EU.
Here we are, 450 million people, a common market, a working democracy (well, mostly...) and we will certainly not intimidate and bully you good people.

๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ โค ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ
zonavar68 ยท 56-60, M
@JamesBugman iphones are Chinese made but will they be subject to Trump's tariff's?
@helenS Sorry eh, I think you are right eh, but sorry anyway.
helenS ยท 36-40, F
@Thewhazzupdude What?? ๐Ÿ˜
@helenS Canadians are very polite, and always excuse themselves, even when it is someone elses fault, they say sorry eh
helenS ยท 36-40, F
@Thewhazzupdude Oh I thought they wear lumberjack shirts and shout "Timber!!!" all the time?? ๐Ÿคญ
@helenS

Without a shirt will do
helenS ยท 36-40, F
@Thewhazzupdude Yeaahhh! That's me, preparing for winter ๐Ÿฅณ
(I don't have central heating, only an open fire)
Khenpal1 ยท M
@JamesBugman Have you heard about nationalization acts ?
@helenS Then we need to see a vid of you too ๐Ÿ˜‡
helenS ยท 36-40, F
@Thewhazzupdude No you don't want to see me while chopping wood, I might look "somewhat" less enthusiastic ๐Ÿ˜
@helenS Haah! Helen in a Dirndl chopping wood
helenS ยท 36-40, F
@Thewhazzupdude ...more like in an old adidas 3-stripes tracksuit...
Thrust ยท 56-60, M
@helenS

I WANT to see you with wood (not attached) ๐Ÿคค
helenS ยท 36-40, F
@Thrust ... but you don't want to see me in my adidas tracksuit I guess ๐Ÿ˜
Thrust ยท 56-60, M
@helenS EU is a bureaucratic, anti growth boot on the neck
Thrust ยท 56-60, M
@helenS well if it's hot you can always unzip it
helenS ยท 36-40, F
@Thrust True ๐Ÿ˜
@JamesBugman In this thread, FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays provides the most accurate and well-informed response regarding tariffs, international trade, and resource ownership. His explanation correctly describes:

How Tariffs Work: Tariffs are taxes collected by the government, not payments to private accounts.
Impact on Trade: They accurately explain how tariffs affect both importers and consumers.

Oil Ownership: They clarify that Canadian oil resources are owned by Canadian companies and provincial governments, with foreign companies (including U.S. firms) holding investments, not ownership of the resources themselves.

While JamesBugman references a real issueโ€”foreign ownership in Canadian oil sandsโ€”their interpretation is exaggerated and misinformed, particularly regarding how tariffs function and claims about resource ownership.

The rest of the conversation drifts into casual, off-topic banter, with no substantive economic insights.