@LordShadowfire That is all you can do: you despise views opposing yours, you dismiss facts you do not like. You do not want civil discussion; only unsuccessfully and pointlessly to try destroying opponents by insults and false accusations of lying; rather than trying to understand others' knowledge and views.

You also make it hard to understand your views, by not stating them clearly.

You are also very callous. I said I knew what drugs can do, not only from the vast amount and variety of published cases but also personal experience. Alcohol had wrecked my former girlfriends' marriage, and eventually our relationship. Heroin KILLED my neighbour, whom I had been trying to help without knowing her real problem. You did not care. You made it pretty clear you regarded them as "anecdotes" I had fabricated, and falsely, offensively accused me of using them to equate cannabis and heroin.

I had NEVER said cannabis is as dangerous as heroin. Even the Law (in the UK) does not equate them, but places illicit narcotics in categories based on their effects and their relative hazards and risks* drawn from accumulating medical, social and legal, professional experience. Not social-media! Though I still won't use it.

Are you just as nasty to the people around you in real life?

If you want to take drugs go ahead. That's your choice. But though I enjoy the occasional, fully-legal alcoholic drink I have never taken and never will take illicit narcotics, even if you think it fine to do so.

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*hazard and risk. I will extend you the courtesy of assuming you know the difference, because you have given me no evidence you don't - and many people don't.

@ArishMell I said I was done. You are incapable of having an honest debate without twisting my words, and you are incapable of admitting that you yourself have used manipulation tactics. You also refuse to provide evidence for any of the claims you've made or implied, and then you claim that I hate the facts you've presented when you haven't presented any. Don't make me block you.

@ElwoodBlues had a nephew that was addicted once. Fortunately he rarely bothered me much except one time when he got rolled. I really didn't know what was going on until long afterwards.

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@FreddieUK One of my former girlfriends was an alcoholic, but I discovered this only a while after we met. It had destroyed her marriage. She tried treatment but it did not work, or she did not make it work, and we split up after only a year. The tragedy was that she was attractive, intelligent and when sober, very good company; but closing her own life in around her, and mine with it. I could not risk taking her to social events like club dinners or going away on holiday with her. It really limited what we could do together.

That was some thirty years ago, and I have no idea where she is or what she is doing now.

You'd think the "rich and privileged" would know better but I think most of those actually on illicit drugs are only fashion-victim "celebrities" from show-business; not noted for much talent, or much more than fame for being famous. The problem is these are the types who attract attention through TV and glossy magazines, making their play-time antics somehow "fashionable". The genuinly rich and privileged don't get where they are by being ephemeral "celebrity" junkies.