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Do good men exists , how to identify them....

Most men i come across seem to not treat women/animals/inferiors good . They think they r only important and all others r there to serve and sacrifice for them.

Some men seem nice but idk how to identify if they r pretending or not. Many men pretend to be good and support women even when they don't have good intentions.
Miram · 31-35, F
Also, and this must be emphasized, being a good person and being a good partner can be two different things, though related.

Good people can still be horrible partners. Horrible people can be good partners(sometimes). It depends on your own goals and conceptualization of the relationship and you yourself. It would be too ideal and naive to think bad people don't have good relationships.

But generally good people( those capable of guilt and growth and selflessness) are less likely to hurt you beyond repair, statistically speaking. So find good people first and then experience will show the rest. And accept that we cannot truly control the future.

Sometimes things just don't work out. But every experience has some value to be harvested and sharpened for wisdom.
mindless · M
Check how they deal with others, like waiters and waitresses)
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@sahi81 I see where you are coming from. I am in the US. We have some people like that but they tend to come from demographic groups with IQ scores of about 80 and tend to die young at the hands of similarly stupid people.

Western civilization has a code of conduct, not universally followed, called chivalry. Chivalry teaches that men can only be good men if they are capable of violence, and that violence is used to protect those in weaker positions. The root word, Chival, is French for horse. In those days, a man on horseback could kill pretty much anyone. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IronHamster He was from village area actually, he now living in highly developed city area. i think violence is not good... maybe in olden days it was, but now a days it's not a good option to solve problems. I heard many people killed each other in western countries due to "misunderstandings/miscommunication" in language or culture.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@sahi81 It depends, but generally western countries are relatively safe. In western countries, women complain because they should feel safe walking scantily clad through city alleys. There is some craziness to that. I am armed and I don't even feel safe walking through city alleys. In liberal areas, crime tends to be so high it is often unreported. Murders must be reported, though, and there are liberal cities where one's odds of survival are less than some war zones, yet in conservative gun carrying communities you are safer than being in Belgium.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Some men will tell you what they can do for you. Some men will want to know what you can do for them.. You want to seek the kind of man who wants to talk over with you what you can both do with your lives together..😷
okaybut · 56-60, M
Good men might appear weak to you. Truly open with their feelings but not overly emotional, not complaining about his life or the world, not following the latest social virtue trends, maybe a boring stable job, not trying to change the world, drink boring coffee, have boring friends, not saving anyone.... look for them. All of it points to a man who is comfortable with who he is and not trying to prove he is something great or better than others. He will be real with you, because he does not necessarily care what you want him to be. He is comfortable being who he is.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@okaybut I think such behaviour comes from need to fit-in into a group. People sometimes lose themselves whole focusing on external validation instead of internal validation.

I think saving someone is good if it comes from a genuine place for genuine care. I don't think good ones seek admiration or show off their good acts. Kindness is taken advantage in this world sadly so I think genuinely good ones hide their kindness.
okaybut · 56-60, M
@sahi81 I would agree. But would also add that he has to want to connect, thus the internal values will drive him towards a want of strong relationship with you.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@okaybut I too have a strong desire to have a good relationship with a partner
AnotherHe · 36-40, M
Try fasting.. fasting from men lol.. i think you're not in a good place.. or a place where "good men" in your preferences, exist.. go for a year without observing, flirting or socialising with men on a deeper level.. it might clear some clouds off your system about men.. i think you're stucked in an unhealthy circle and cycle..it doesn't matter if you've met a thousand men, if you are stucked, you are stacked meeting the same type.. you need a detox lol before knowing what's good and bad..
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@AnotherHe i did have some similarities with them but also don't have other similarities.

i think i need to take time to love myself first?
AnotherHe · 36-40, M
@sahi81 then perhaps those similarities are more dominant than others..
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@AnotherHe could be .
Miram · 31-35, F
If you wish to know a man, don't date him or show interest in dating him.

They are biologically driven to mirror your preferences. A man who cares for what you care about simply to fulfill his romantic goals is not his true self.

Know what they prioritize.


I generally think, regardless of gender, people whose life purpose is modern romance are often of weak characters and minds. We are all both good and bad, but we will be swayed easier to match greedy interests when we too are guided by selfishness above all else. And so we serve more evil.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
Here is something most people won't tell you, and you may believe otherwise until it is too late.

We all have roles to play in life, and all relationships are negotiations of a sort.

Men are expendable. We always have been. We do the dangerous jobs. We fight the wars. We survive and build our wealth. The better we do the more market value we have in dating. A forty year old man who has been successful can marry a younger woman and have a stable family.

Women have their most value when young. Most women waste their youth pursuing things that don't increase their value. A forty year old woman is done having kids or if possible she may have one high risk pregnancy. She will watch her coworker forty year old men date younger women, because they can. Her time might have been better spent securing a relationship in her younger years, because at this point her dating life will consist of getting run through by younger guys that don't really want a relationship.
WintaTheAngle · 41-45, M
Ofcourse they do. Just because the men in your group are bad it doesn’t mean they all are.

That would be as foolish as me saying are all women bad if the ones I knew were. You can’t make those assumptions based on such a small group.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@WintaTheAngle i observed and met over 500+ men... maybe i was in wrong places or didn't meet/socialize with good one in good places. I think the problem is bad ones tend to look for victims more or in higher positions, tend to be louder, occupy the spotlight or places where people r more vulnerable, they play with vulnerabilities ( in name of love or friendships). So they tend to come across in life more in my opinion....
WintaTheAngle · 41-45, M
@sahi81 I’m sorry that’s been your experience. We aren’t all like that. I hope you find someone better to spend your time with.
MPath37 · 51-55, M
@sahi81 I applaud and encourage you in your efforts to gain understanding about yourself and others and your interactions, and how you can better respect yourself and make healthy decisions. This kind of reflection and applying insights is what the world needs. Thank you.
SW-User
Sounds like you have a distrust of men in general. Never a good start to any relationship unfortunately
You have to look at their tag or the serial number on their foot; refer to manufacturer's instructions regarding "good" and other men.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
Sadly there is no mark 😆

Maybe check by their actions not just words or gestures
@sahi81 Yes. But we can't see their heart!
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@SomeMichGuy true. It's hard that's why
Sapio · 51-55, M
Be who you want to attract.
Khenpal1 · M
not in India 😂
1490wayb · 56-60, M
will have show your interest in them first probably. often quiet shy boring,dont have a outgoing personality
PriyaB · 26-30
You don't have any good men in Bangladesh?
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@PriyaB i am not from Bangladesh, i am from India. There r good men here but they too seem to have narrow minded, they don't take action on bad men
PriyaB · 26-30
@sahi81 There is not shortage of men in our country. Just look around. You sound lazy
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@PriyaB @PriyaB i am not saying all r bad but due to bad ones and our culture it's hard to identify good ones
SW-User
I exist but I'm taken by miss Lady Nebula
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@SW-User I'm not here to date. Just asking questions
SW-User
@sahi81 Sad. I really like Indian women
come2gether · 46-50, M
You are incredibly whiny and self entitled
Alex51 · 61-69, M
No good men exist.are you happy to know it
HannahSky · F
Inferiors? That says it all.
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sahi81 · 22-25, F
@twistedrope Personally i like people who give advice, i like people who validate my emotions, both r only trying to heal... Maybe they just dunno what u need, everyone r different. If they r in ur situation, maybe they just need advice instead of validation.

Did u communicate with them what u need? ppl can't read minds.
twistedrope · 26-30, M
@sahi81 All I did was answer your question "What is wrong with fixing problems". There are a lot of issues with approaching someone troubled with a "Fix".

I used myself as an example because this is truthfully how I feel. Telling you "This is what I'd do." instead of "You should do this." Take it or leave it if you want, I have no issue. I think men in particular have issues with validating emotions and look for solutions too quickly without addressing and validating a persons feelings.

So... Good men start off with validating feelings. I think a poor example of a man approaches a crying girl with a "Solution" first without comfort.

Example. "Just smile". What a stupid piece of advice.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@twistedrope bad men too in my life started with validating my feelings to gain my trust just to betray me later. They repeat what i say, they lack any form of brain of themselves..

Atleast who give advices are trying to help. Unless that advice feels invalidating as if they r trying say u r weak and ur problems r no big deal.

saying advices such as "just smile" sounds invalidating when someone is sad. If someone is sad, i will ask what happened, listen to them and together we will find solutions for it if they want. I think giving advices without knowing the depth of the situation is wrong.

 
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