@Carla I don't agree. It's symbolic either way. If Trump's renaming of Lake Ottawa is petty, then so is removing his name from a street as an act of retaliation.
Canada is all bluster and socialist grandstanding . The US buys 73% of all Canadian goods and is responsible for 78% of their cash flow. They insist on having a trade deficit , so Trump is about to show them the art of the deal.
i mean, if we wanna use that logic, Trump is deranged by Carney by changing Lake Ontario to Lake America. especially when Ontario predates both countries, and some American towns are even called Ontario too.
@legendaryssjgsskaiokenevolved It's not a logical response. It's an escalation. Escalating further is engaging in the same behavior Trump is, and again, I can't help but note the hypocrisy.
It’s not so much “how dare he rename things,” as it is, “why’s he wasting time renaming things instead of working on making things more affordable.” He cares more about his ego than about our pain.
@JPWhoo Some of the issues with the tariffs are as follows:
Canada and the US were close to negotiating an agreement to changes to tariffs on a wide variety of goods. Trump's big issue was ensuring that Chinese timber was appropriately taxed as he believes the Chinese are trading with Canada to avoid US tarrifs.
At the 11th hour, Mark Carney rejected the negotiations and went public with his dissatisfaction:
“Over the past 18 months, Canada’s new government has focused on building our strength at home, diversifying our partnerships abroad, and striking a fair deal with the United States.
Our objectives in our trade negotiations have been to:
Preserve tariff-free access to the U.S. for the vast majority of Canadian business; Provide greater stability to our trade relationship; Significantly reduce U.S. tariffs on our key strategic industries, so that Canadian businesses in these sectors would have the best access of any in the world; Protect our small and medium-sized businesses – the lifeblood of our economy – including by removing the imminent threat of new tariffs; and Maintain our flexibility, independence, and sovereignty so we can keep building the Canada we want. We have recognised from the beginning that America has changed, and that we will not return to our old relationship. Our government understood, before many, that America is altering all its trade relationships. Putting tariffs on its closest allies and charging for access to its vast market.
We have worked in that context. To strike a fair deal that would provide the best access to the U.S. market and greater certainty to Canadian businesses and workers. Throughout, our goal has been to secure the best deal for Canadians, never a deal at any price or on any deadline.
In recent weeks, we made important progress toward improving Canada’s position as having the best deal in the world with the U.S.
However, that progress has not been enough to meet our objectives for Canadians. As a result, this evening, I have decided to suspend trade negotiations with the U.S. and have directed Canada’s negotiators to return to Ottawa. They have worked hard, in good faith, to defend the interests of Canadians throughout these negotiations up until the very last minute. However, last-minute changes in the U.S. proposed terms were unfair, uneconomic, and called into question the reliability of any deal.
At midnight tonight, the U.S. intends to impose a 50% tariff on roughly $28 billion of Canadian goods. Canada will match those tariffs dollar for dollar to protect our workers and businesses.
In the coming days, the government will introduce additional measures to support Canadian workers and businesses, building on the nearly $25 billion in support provided over the past 18 months.
Apparently, the negotiations were not in good faith.
Mark Carney is a globalist who only cares how his tenure as Canada's Prime Minister looks to his buddies in the EU and WEF. He doesn't give a toss about Canada or the US. He's being told what to do, and is playing his part.
Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.
It’s so silly, they do this here as well, change names, leave the names, all this nonsense costs money, surely there are better things to spend money on?
@tenente If you are implying that is what Trump is doing, and I am not saying I agree with that, then yes the city council is engaging in similar behavior, while also being outraged by that behavior.
@SumKindaMunster Ya, it seems like city politicians are renaming things for "likes" and also to avoid real issues. But I do not know what happens in Canada and if that is a normal for city administrators. I bet it's an election year for the mayor in that city.
