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I'm a bit alarmed at Trump activating California's National Guard over Newsom's authority.

I understand he's allowed to do it legally, but the pretext is murky and the consequences are dire.

Id he does this in all left leaning states, a constitutional crisis I think creeps even closer to armed conflict.
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sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
I'm also alarmed. I'm not any kind of expert on the federalization of Guard forces, but I sure would like to know if there has ever been another case where a State Guard has been activated by the President against the wishes of the Governor. It's weird and scary.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 yes, by Eisenhower to enforce allowing an African American girl to a school in Alabama against the wishes of the segregationist Governor Wallace.

My error the situation was in Arkansas.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@samueltyler2 Interesting. Are these the only two times this has happened?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 not exactly, but in the past it happened when the governor refused to provide for the constitutional benefits afforded certain citizens:

https://time.com/7292433/trump-national-guard-la-protests/

Read about the Posse Comitatus Act which essentially restricts the military from coming into a state without being invited.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Actually he is arguably NOT allowed to do it. What started as a dozen men outside Home Depot let to ICE coming in like gangbusters and then 100 protestors, that led to the National Guard and now the violence is spreading. Now the calling up of the Marines, this is not American values or reactions.
ThePatientAnarchist · 61-69New
As I look on from Canada I am ever more appalled by what Trump is doing to the United States day after day.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@ThePatientAnarchist yes, because you are a liberal leftist
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
These protests are all over California now. Palm springs even. Though no riots... Yet.

Compton was always a hot bed just waiting to happen again.
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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@bijouxbroussard with the threat of US Marines, that is not far off the mark. 😞
DDaverde · 61-69, M
Hey he’s the president and that’s that!! Duly elected President by a wide margin to say the least !!
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@DDaverde no, you bawbag

In terms of the popular vote, more people voted for someone not named Trump for president than voted for Trump in 2024, and his margin of victory over Harris was 1.5 percentage points. That is the fifth smallest margin of victory in the thirty-two presidential races held since 1900.

https://www.cfr.org/article/2024-election-numbers
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@basilfawlty89 And that would mean something if the popular vote mattered in the race for President. It doesn't. If it did, every single candidate would run very different campaigns and the result would be very different popular votes. 🙄

Obsessing over the popular vote count in an electoral college race is like telling a cancer patient that he has 20/20 vision. It might be true, but it is not relevant.

This was an electoral college race and in the electoral college count (the only count that mattered), it was a landslide. And I say this as someone who has voted AGAINST president Trump three times and written here and elsewhere about how he is an embarassment to this country.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@sarabee1995 I get what you're saying. But their basis of their argument is that most Americans support Trump. That MAGA is the silent majority.

They're not.

Hence why I added approval numbers as a qualifier.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
He seems to be getting away with stuff that a Democrat would get fried over. I'm fairly convinced Trump can murder someone and it would be fine.

It was bound to happen. People didn't vote for this and now we letting them know.
DDaverde · 61-69, M
@SatanBurger I voted for law and order and to get rid of the illegals especially the criminal ones !
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Punches · 46-50, F
Whether someone likes trump or not, we have to know this - he is NOT messing around.

The illegals knew this type of thing would start happening, they should have left on their own terms.
Punches · 46-50, F
@ronisme1 Yeah you have a point there. I guess if someone is "Wanted", they are not going to be out there putting themselves on display.



@basilfawlty89 With these raids, how does ICE even decide where to go? Even if it based solely on Spanish speaking an skin color, wouldn't the govt want to use their limited resources do deal with the actual illegal citizens?

As far as "due process", I wonder how many other countries treat their illegal immigrants with that?
I am not saying it is good or right. I cannot imagine how stressful it would be, not being able to live a normal life because of constant threat of deportation.

All I am saying is people knew this was going to happen.
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Frostcloud · F
a zero tolerance policy coming from a man convicted of 34 felonies and sexual abuse
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ididntknow · 51-55, M
I wonder how many NGOs are involved in this, and how many agent provocateurs, it’s always the same playbook, always, they are just now, doing in America, what they do, all over the world, just like they did in Ukraine, to mention, but one
1234cardiff · 61-69, M
Ww2 Germany “brown shirt “ and “ ss”
Russia secret police
America national guard
All a show of STRENGTH to the citizens
Need I say more
Except

Stay safe
Bill1372 · 51-55, M
Maybe because Newsome is a joke
Pisciatto1 · 26-30, M
@Bill1372 Newscum and Bass are Left Wing radicals who seek the destruction of our beloved country!
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ron122 · 41-45, M
It's only the left leaning states that are supporting illegal gang members.
ron122 · 41-45, M
@zonavar68 Only in your leftist mind. You go on and support gang members.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@ron122 i will not ever never support trump's corrupt gang who supported promoted and incited insurrection on jan 6 2021.
ron122 · 41-45, M
@zonavar68 So you admit you support gang members.
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zonavar68 · 56-60, M
Trump wants a police state
DDaverde · 61-69, M
@zonavar68 no he and I want law and order not what the leftie democrats want !
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
Trump thinks the military should be a domestic terrorist advocacy agency.
DDaverde · 61-69, M
@zonavar68 no he doesn’t!
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@romell Do you take personal responsibility for your government, regardless of who’s in power ? Has there ever been anyone leading your country with whose policies you disagreed, since you’ve been of voting age ?

I’ve lived under administrations led by presidents for whom I hadn’t voted, but this is the first time ever that I’ve been ashamed of my country’s leader. 🙁
romell · 51-55, M
@bijouxbroussard sane citizens talk about the overall development of masses n not just some classes. One has to accept the verdict of masses but yes speak about what's wrong...
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chrisCA · M
The United States has elected the Mad King.
DDaverde · 61-69, M
[@chrisCA no we got rid of one!!
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