@revenant Not really? I'm just pointing out that those who are allegedly calling out people for "expecting the government to fix their own issues" are generally those who vote far-right authoritarians who promised them, well, that once elected they would get their issues fixed lol

@Elessar please do not gaslight

@revenant I don't think you know what that word means, lol. In any case, could you say I'm wrong?

@AbbeyRhode could have said it better myself.

@whowasthatmaskedman you are correct about foreign loans, but the majority of the deficit is structural and a great deal is internal, not to foreign countries. Interestingly, those who call for lowering the debt, are the same ones who vote to give tax relief to the rich and to corporations. If everyone paid their "fair share," don't ask me how to arrive at that, the deficit would disappear. The last 2 democratic administrations managed to handle that well, then the republicans came to power and the debt rose considerably, mostly because of tax credits/cuts/


don't swear by Dr. Google, but it is at least, a good starting point:
"As of November 2022, federal debt held by the public was $31 trillion. Debt held by the public was estimated at 96.19% of GDP, and approximately 33% of this public debt was owned by foreigners. The United States has the largest external debt in the world."
"What is the main contributor to U.S. debt?
From FY 2019 to FY 2021, spending increased by about 50%, largely due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Tax cuts, stimulus programs, increased government spending, and decreased tax revenue caused by widespread unemployment generally account for sharp rises in the national debt."


https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2022/09/the-federal-government-has-borrowed-trillions-but-who-owns-all-that-debt

@samueltyler2 Sorry. I am calling this off. We are clearly talking at cross purposes. What I am speaking about has nothing to do with taxes, or budget allocations. It is about America as a culture buying stuff from everyone else and effectively paying in IOUs. Now what will happen is that sooner or later someone will stop shipping you stuff until you agree to pay in something other than $US. Like Gold, or Euros , or Yuan. And them make you buy them. And watch the bum fall out of the value of the $ and the cost of imports rise. I'm done here.😷

@whowasthatmaskedman it is all related. If you are only speaking about a trade balance, that is another story. But the total deficit is related to expenses and income. The government's income is mostly taxes, so the balance of the scale changes when either side changes, either purchasing more or less, or taxing more or less. It is simple math as far as that is concerned.

@val70 is Molokai a person, a place ?

@revenant Sorry, was a little joke... it's a Hawaiian island where there was a lepracy colony once

@val70 My buddy had his honeymoon there

@theAlchemist create a problem and offer a solution

True though. @TheOneyouwerewarnedabout

@whowasthatmaskedman here is where?

@samueltyler2 🇦🇺

@whowasthatmaskedman I just checked out your about me.

@PrincessRoarBuddy I certainly would agree with your first point

@PrincessRoarBuddy Meh, more rightwing cr#p

@Roundandroundwego but okay, America has the might to end life. So you won.

@Roundandroundwego I just dont see 1948 in one nation as ancient. I see your 15th amendement and raise you Idi Amin, Sadam Hussein, Robert Mugabe, and Muamma Gaddafi.😷

@whowasthatmaskedman wow. No, that's more modern. The UN charter contains that right. Nobody knows about it any more,-. Online.
Nobody hopes for civil society or peace. Post Truth is what you do. Instead. Deal over, social animal dead. No sapiens. You win.

@revenant footstool to the good stuff...ever notice all the US Founding Fathers lived long lives and were ,for the most part well to do>???

@bookerdana I had noticed that a lot of names throughout history lived long lives contrary to " popular opinion"

@revenant Well with Kings and Queens its feast or Famine,ie,off with their heads or die in bed ,well fed

@revenant I didn't. I am trying to save. I need to also invest in my health which I realised this year.

@littlepuppywantanewlife a mentor would be good for you

@revenant I started working out a local but decent gym because of some girl. But now I try to workout regularly. The gym coaches can help me to get rid of my alcohol habits. It's just that I some whey protein and creatine from him.

@revenant Those who welcome it will be eliminated first. We are a planet of 8 billion people and these lunatics have an earthy threshold of 500 million. You can't simply wish away 7.5 billion human beings.

@BizSuitStacy Gaia will be happy and anyway the future belongs to the technocrat Ubermenschen.

@revenant I guess we will see

@gol979 ahah yes one has to choose the future slavemaster always !

@masterofyou a broken wheel on a mis/carriage.

@revenant No a broken wheel on a miscarriage.... I said it right the first time.... you don't need the"/"

@littlepuppywantanewlife no

@revenant ok

@littlepuppywantanewlife Actually we face a crisis of antibiotic resistance and the private pharmaceutical industry is completely failing to invest in producing it. They made billions by exploiting antibiotic discovery in government labs. So why not invest? Because they are too accountable to producing more immediate profits for shareholders and executive bonuses. The idea that private enterprise is always better is a laughable myth. This is one of a myriad of examples in other sectors as well. I could also raise many other failures of pharmaceutical industry and health insurance industries to put interests of public to the forefront - and I'm not anti-pharmaceutical companies. Just pointing out the nuance and complexity in reality.

@MountainMonk89 There might be 2 types of people in the world

@JimboSaturn I get the impression that many do

@revenant If so, what is it???

@ElwoodBlues top secret

@revenant Translation: you've got nothing, LOL!!!

@Lilnonames I'm glad you're still with us. :)