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Praising Communism While Enjoying All the Benefits of Living Under Capitalism

I've never understood why so many who like to praise communism don't just pack up their stuff (which they wouldn't have if they lived under a communist regime) and move to a communist country. You're free to leave, you know. No one is keeping you in, for example, England, Germany or Canada.
That being the case, why are you still here? If capitalism is so bad, so "oppressive", "racist" and all that other jazz, [b]then GO![/b]
Go on! Leave! Move to China. I'll even buy your plane ticket (one-way of course)! 😊
wildbill83 · 36-40, M Best Comment
socialism groupies are all the same, hiding in their safe little bubbles of ignorance, talking about how great socialism is by using examples of countries that aren't even socialist; and when you reply with actual examples of socialism, they retort with idiotic nonsense like "oh, but but, that's not how socialism is [i]supposed[/i] to work..."

That's the lesson they can't seem to grasp, it doesn't, never has, and never will work the way they expect it to work; and it exists because gullible, naive, idiots like them welcome it with open arms (then complain later that what they were sold wasn't what was advertised, what a shocker...)

Tyrants like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, etc. didn't just magically rise to power on their own accord, they got there with help from socialist wannabee idiots...

Not all nationalism leads to fascism (wanting to make America great again doesn't make you a nazi), on the other hand, all socialism leads to communism; regardless of how a country gets there, or what their political parties call themselves, the end result is always the same... corrupt tyrannical dictators & a society full of shared misery.
Lhayezee · 26-30, F
@wildbill83 You're right but you do get an awful lot of people, when a private company does something appalling or negligent but suffers no real consequences, who say "oh, but, but, that's not how the free market is [i]supposed[/i] to work..."

The problem is people believing in ideology over practicality. And at least mildly patriotic capitalism is much more practical!

SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Have you actually encountered someone "praising communism"? It seems to me that when someone here suggests ways in which capitalism could be made more efficient or responsive to the needs of society (ie. improved rather than abolished) they find themselves labelled a "communist". Capitalism relies upon liberal democracy and a plurality of opinions in order to remain dynamic and effective.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SunshineGirl Ethics is a moral code. It's like the rules of the road for orderly social relationship. I just don't understand why we need to be told and trained to behave in a manner that is beneficial for all. Ask yourself this question: Do you want to live cooperatively with others for the common good?
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@sree251 A moral code for corporate bodies and societies. Because not everyone behaves in a way that maximises favourable outcomes for all. And those least able to speak up for themselves repeatedly find themselves at the end of the queue.

In answer to your question, yes. Living for the common good is infinitely more satisfying than living only for oneself.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SunshineGirl There is a pair of twin girls joined together: two separate heads. They have to live together for the common good. Humanity is conjoined: you and me and the rest of the 8 billion people. We have to live together for the common good but we are not doing it. Endless conflict. Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbIPVo4XnLI&t=42s
AmericanBroad · 31-35, FVIP
Exactly! Just leave already
Sterler45 · 36-40, M
There’s no perfect political system. Capitalism is an excuse for billionaires and corporations to squeeze ordinary people even more. Communism is an excuse for state oppression.
@Rickinnc it's definitely not about me, and I've been a non drinker since the early eighties.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Damn straight.

All those Americans openly who disagree with Joe Biden should also keep their mouths shut and move to Hungary.
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Briggett · T
@Burnley123 nice slant to the right.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Yeah that'll show em
Rickinnc · 51-55, M
Couldn’t agree more. I spent plenty of time overseas I’m the military in crappy 3rd world countries and even “modern Western European” countries. No one has the standard of living and freedoms we have. The pot in our country mostly have 1st world probs.
Castenmas · M
@Rickinnc You think you’re the only country with illegal immigrants. Do you have any idea what is happening in the Mediterranean every day?

Being a better option than a Mexican cartel turf war doesn’t make you great.
Rickinnc · 51-55, M
@Castenmas I’m sensing
some real envy here😂

Well aware of the African migration and it’s just a first step. They don’t want to stay they will be coming to America as soon as they are able
Castenmas · M
@Rickinnc There no envy. I wouldn’t trade places with you for all the dollars in Vegas. Nobody in my country is burning their own cities, breaking into government institutions or shooting up schools. You can keep it.
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
I think a lot of people who are for those ideas just in heart of hearts want things to be better, or see the inherent flaws of the current system. I'm personally in favour of a balance between capitalism and socialism as I think it needs an element of collective accountability.

For example no one person should be a billionaire while entire areas of a country are poor. To be a society we have to think and act like one to a degree. No company should extort and profit from everyday people in a crisis (eg. Energy companies and oil). What good are our societies if we structurally allow such things to happen?.
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
@Slade lol tax is stealing is it? Voluntary charity is stealing is it?.

Sorry do I not match the caricature in your head
Slade · 56-60, M
@Ryannnnnn You want to arbitrarily destroy the wealth of those you don't like. Sounds like thievery to me.

I got a novel suggestion - go out and earn your own wealth
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
@Slade I don't like?. You're saying that buddy. You're having an argument with a cartoon in your own head.

I do bud lol
Sterler45 · 36-40, M
It’s ok to hold different views in a democracy. That’s a basic democratic right and as long as it doesn’t cross into illegality, people should not feel under pressure or compelled to leave!
Sterler45 · 36-40, M
@Slade people are free to express unpopular or disrespectful opinions. Surely that’s freedom of speech. Democracy either lives or dies on the principle.

To suppress such opinions, with the caveat they don’t lead to or inspire illegality, amounts to censorship and you will of course know that’s how dictatorships are run.
Slade · 56-60, M
@Sterler45 did I ever say they weren't? But we're also free to call out, and ridicule those garbage beliefs
Sterler45 · 36-40, M
@Slade as I said, it comes down to freedom of speech. You have a right to express your view as do they.
Castenmas · M
I strongly share your sentiments, on the condition it actually is communism and not just socially progressive policy that some people call communism, to save themselves from actually thinking about it in any depth.
Gloomy · F
@Castenmas but not a good faith argument either
Gloomy · F
@Cassie2083 also is christianity and capitalism responsible for Franco, Dollfuß, Batista,... ?
@Gloomy Christians created the very first hospitals, orphanages, universities, and they preserved the knowledge of the Roman Empire after it collapsed.
Dictators like Franco, Batista, Pinochet and so on may have claimed to be Christian, but their behaviour proved otherwise.
For the same reason some white Americans who whine about the injustice of "stolen land" don't sell their stuff and go back to Europe 🤪
calicuz · 51-55, M
True, and I think the ones complaining about Capitalisms, don't understand Capitalism in its truest form and Capitalism works in its truest form. In True Capitalism, corporations, as well as citizens, all pay their fair share of taxes and the Government does not give preference to one or the other.
America's economic system isn't broken, America's Government is broken. IMHO, of course.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@calicuz Is the economic system an idea? Or is it the way our broken government operates? You see the capitalist system as one thing and the way we live as a nation as another. There is only one thing: us people messing around as capitalism in action.
MrAverage1965 · 61-69, M
Capitalism, socialism, communism it makes little it no difference. We have corrupt business leaders and politicians in capitalist countries, corrupt tyrannical leaders in communist countries.
The problem with them all is the greed of those in control.
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MrAverage1965 · 61-69, M
@Emosaur Which countries do you think are a good example of these direct democracies?
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Entwistle · 56-60, M
It's impossible for capitalism to exist without exploitation.
smiler2012 · 56-60
{@cassie2083] it is called freedom of expression as you have yours
Americans need billionaires to run them, of course.
Community control of the economy is communist. You need oligarchy.
The American people really can't handle democracy - you need a firm hand and direction from your boss. You can not be involved in decisions about what you will do. Just get busy. We'll direct you.
sree251 · 41-45, M
Nobody is praising communism. What is so bad is not capitalism. It is crooked politicians screwing up the country in the name of capitalism.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Slade What commie politicians are you talking about? Communism is a socialist ideology that is not practiced anywhere in the world. Using slurs is not helpful in a meaningful conversation.
Slade · 56-60, M
@sree251 there's at least a dozen commie butt boys on this site. Put right in their about me.

Now you can blow me
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Slade Why are you speaking like a gangster? Did you grow up in a bad neighborhood?
Slade · 56-60, M
They are liars and hypocrites
Ferric67 · M
That's what I typically say to those people who praise communism. I offer them the chance to take a one year trip to Venezuela
I wonder how quickly they would change their tune after living through it
@Ferric67 communism is the voters running the economy instead of billionaires.
Of course Americans can't handle it. You need directions from the boss to be effective workers. You're not ready for democracy. Sorry. You get back to work and do as you're told!
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Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Cuba is nice
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
@Patriot96 Temperature wise yes, ever live there?
Entwistle · 56-60, M
Some folk have no option but to live under capitalism. Doesn't mean they can't praise another societal system..
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@Entwistle capitalism offers them the option to move
Entwistle · 56-60, M
@Patriot96 Not always. However if you don't like people having freedom of speech and then criticising capitalism then you have the freedom to move!
ravenhill · M
i see that now and those who do that are extremely fucked in the head. they should be deported to those communist countries.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Well, I'd live on Mans but Elon Musk owns a lot of that too.
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Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@Cassie2083 At that time people were under the influence of the church. A majority of people are secular now.
@Tastyfrzz Wrong, and wrong again. The "influence" of the church varied from place to place and century to century, and what about those who lived beyond the church's influence (ex. Japan)? Conservative values are natural, human values. "Progressivism", for lack of a better term, is just insanity.
And no, the majority of people on Earth today aren't "secular" (they're either religious, or at least spiritually-inclined). Atheists are the minority, less than ten percent of humans alive today.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Cassie2083 Atheism is a western ideology. It's agenda is the subversion of Christian moral culture.

 
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