If Trump actually follows through on his plans, it will crash the US economy

The Trumpsters are replying with laughter emojis.

Good luck blaming it on Antifa when your grocery bills go up!

Pffff

These are interesting points.

From what I understand of them, the hope for the tariff policy is that it will encourage foreign manufacturers to make stuff here (like toyota and honda and many others currently do). Very questionable whether this will work, but their goal is not to jack prices but to bring home manufacturing.

As for immigration, we need a solution and that solution needs to include knowing 100% who is crossing the border and when and why. Deporting the current crop of people who as their first act on American soil chose to violate our laws is not morally wrong, is not wrong on a global standard (look at other countries' immigration policies). But, as you say, it will create a labor shortage in certain industries (agriculture, hospitality, construction, etc). This is a complicated issue.

Saying that we will have a labor shortage by deporting these people ignores the fact that we now hold them essentially in indenturded servitude. They work most often for below minimum wage and have no workplace protections from OSHA or Workmen's Comp, they have no health insurance, and for those who are having social security taxes deducted from their wages they will not ever see that money returned in retirement. We essentially have a second class population from whom we extract lower costs heads of lettuces, hotel rooms, and homes, but to whom we give quite nearly nothing compared to a documented worker.

If we were Canada, they'd already have been deported. If we were any one of most of the countries between South America and the US, they'd have been shot crossing the border. If we were Poland, they'd have been shot crossing the border. So, I'm not open at all to hearing that the US is being unfair or immoral in deciding how to deal with the issue. I don't know that mass deportation is the answer, but it is not some big immoral act.

It remains to be seen if they will be smart enough to have buyer's remorse when inflation goes even higher, they lose medical insurance, and can't breath clean air or drink clean water.

It’s amazing to me that people think he’s good for business, or that he’s a conservative. Neither is true.

take a look at his cabinet appointees. Have you ever seen a list of such unqualified individuals, worse, those who have an agenda that will destroy the government as we know it?

It will crash the world economy. If no one stops him it will trash America as a nation..😷

Deporting all those people will send small grocery chains into bankruptcy then their supplers. The supply chain will have a bomb dropped on it

Deporting millions of migrants is what has to happen if America voted for it. They did vote for it. Immigration was the most important issue to Republican voters.

You are right about tariffs. 20% tariffs on imports to US would drive costs up. Trump will not go through with it.

Liz Trump

And no lettuce that can last 4 years

Yes, and if any of his supporters had applied even a modicum of critical thinking they would have realised that these policies are unaffordable and practically impossible to implement.

Apparently the 20% tariff is meant to be the opening gambit to rather one-sided trade negotiations. I imagine explaining that subtlety pre-election would not have seized the headlines in the same way.

Mass deportations . . I guess he can curate a few dramatic TV spectacles to keep the pack happy.

As I understand it, those ten million people all arrived illegally during the presidency of Joe Biden, and prior to this people weren't complaining about the existence of a labour shortage, so why would one happen after their deportation?
Unless... there are unscrupulous employers who wish to pay their (illegal) employees peanuts, and don't care that one of the results of doing so is forcing down the wages of the average US worker who is already struggling with the current cost of living crisis.
The toffey-snots of Hollywood are rich enough to be able to afford to pay their maids and servants a sustainable wage, and it's about time they did so.


I haven't looked into the details of this yet, but I can safely assume that not everything will have this tariff imposed upon it. I'm guessing mainly luxury electronic devices like iPhones, cars and laptops will, and the reason for this will be due to the fact that they're made in communist China, by slave labour no less. Trump is displaying his superior morality and care for basic human rights once again, and we can all be proud to have in our generation such a wonderful Glorious Grand Master of Ethics! 🥰
We truly are entering a new Golden Age of peace, freedom and prosperity! Hallelujah! ✝☦✡

What world have you been living in? Remember when Trump put tariffs on many Chinese imports while keeping a lower cost of living than obama or biden

Deportation of ten million people would probably take as many years, so that’s not really an issue, 20 percent tariffs on certain goods? We don’t know the details but it would definitely make those goods more expensive but again, even tariffs would take time to fully implement.

The idea behind tariffs is to make manufacturing costs more competitive but it takes time to ramp up production, factories need to be built and companies need to make the decision to build them.

Once upon a time tariffs might have been an effective policy tool but with so much of our manufacturing base having been dismantled over past decades it’s not going to work anymore. Even making lower priced goods more expensive with the imposition of tariffs won’t inspire onshore manufacturing because higher labor costs and production costs would not cover the margins, it would still be cheaper to import goods.

Rebuilding factories takes decades, political leaders change every few years and the economics of manufacturing will change with them

It's gonna be funny to watch the Trump voters look on in horror..if they become aware enough to understand what's going on that is.

Tariffs would cause a shortage of goods if we continue to import them from other countries, but that's not what we want to do. Deporting 10 million undocumented immigrants would not effect the workforce at all since none of them can be legally employed in the first place.

And US democracy.

You follow our politics closely, but it looks like you haven't grasped what Tuesday means. Yet.

Brexit ring any bells???

Such an opportunity for corruption, too. I do wonder if all tariffs are harmful. Biden kept many of Trump’s tariffs, and both the left and right opposed NAFTA. I think he’ll water down the tariffs, but you never know.

Yup... Big time

That's probably true in the long run, but not necessarily in the space of four years. But as you say, the actual policies may not be quite as advertised. A bit like our Labour government!

He might just decide to spend his time golfing again. The wall never got built.

Enjoy your new neighbors.

Start growing your own food now

Its a slippery slope for sure.

I can assure you it won't.

Wasn’t he already president? And didn’t the American people vote him in again?

<scratches head>

You must have studied under Paul Klugman

Ah yes, anothrt EXPERT

Stoop head.

And once it happens, it'll be too late for me to tell them I told them so.