So basically Biden told Trumpeteers to goFthemselves.

@BackyardShaman I agree - what he said is 100% true. But I also felt he was telling me something that I already know. For some reason Biden felt a sense of urgency.

@trollslayer Nothing he said was a revelation, but the tendency of too many is to think "a pox on both of you" and not vote. He was reminding them that the only antidote is to go out and vote against the radical fringe, no matter what party or lack of party you vote for. And the urgency is coming from the number of threats now being made against FBI agents, court officials, election officials, and their families and not just politicians in the arena.

@Elessar What's the difference between centrist and independent? because I actually don't even know which one of these I agree with.

@Elessar Well, seizing power through dirty tricks and manipulating the court is normal politics that has gone on for centuries. Not to say that all centrists think that is right. I think Biden's goal was to say that a line has been crossed here that had not been crossed in this country. To that I (a centrist) agree wholeheartedly. This is much different than campaign lies, contesting "hanging chads" on a razor thin vote count, and scare tactics. The SC stuff I pin on Mitch McConnell - I see that as a dirty trick, and a dirty trick that is way out of the spirit of the constitution. I also pin it on voters who voted for Trump simply on the abortion issue - like making a deal with the devil. My feeling (hope) on that is it will motivate people enough, and the end result will be some kind of compromise legislation that legalizes abortion up to about 15 weeks nationally - probably passed during a lame-duck session.

@cyberdude28 The position you've described in your own post and which I criticized, informally called "radical centrism" or "enlightened centrism" isn't what is known as (proper) centrism.

Radical "centrism" is a sterile attempt at running after a perceived center that moves constantly, in a way to be equidistant from all the political forces. Radical "centrists" don't have a platform, a candidate, a side; all they care about is feeling "super partes", and complaining that everyone but themselves are an "extremist", up to the point of not voting or voting for parties that have virtually zero chances of winning. They're independent (unaffiliated to a party) by definition - but NOT every independent voter is a radical centrist, so they're not synonyms. They're essentially cannon fodder that, paradoxically and ironically, end up benefiting the most extremist side.

Actual centrism is a well defined position that does NOT move at every election, and tends to be socially and economically for a coexistence of left-wing and right-wing policies; opposing extremisms and not running after one when parties move across the political spectrum.

Easier to explain with a picture:

@BohemianBabe based

@CheekyBadger Both sides do this.

@CheekyBadger no one has called either party leader the devil

@LordShadowfire salute a flag and play football. War's forever.

Hey, can we get an orderly over here? @Roundandroundwego needs their medication again.

@Roundandroundwego Yeah, about that:

Yay 😁 @LordShadowfire

@LordShadowfire It may also motivate those of us who would vote D to attempt to motivate others. My parents are old, voted for Trump in 2016, and don't seem to understand or do not pay much attention to the craziness of Qanon, the Big Lie, etc. Yet they ask me what I know about candidates. So, it is my job to feel motivated and relay to them as honestly as possible what I know about the candidates. My mom is hyper-focused on the abortion issue, but I think I can convince her that the views of the person running for the local Secretary of State have no bearing on that issue.

@Bill1372






And in the words of the Right Wing:

Great arguing points. A bunch of memes made by a high school kid. @SW-User

@Bill1372 Illustrated facts, nonetheless. In a format that a high schooler could understand.