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Do u think assault rifles be banned here in the US ?

Its about time we looked at this story once again. But what about assault rifles in the US ?
What do you think. Are they really necessary ? I mean any gun can kill you. But these type of guns are for war mainly. It was built to destroy you from the inside out. What do you think SW.
Should assault rifles be banned in the US. 🤔
This debate goes on endlessly. Assault rifles manufactured after May 1986 are banned. Those manufactured prior to that date are heavily restricted. The firearms you are addressing do not have select fire capabilities. They are semi-automatic, and most people know this. And most firearms owned are semi-auto.

What is it about an AR-15 that makes it more lethal than any other semi-automatic firearm? Hint: it's not.

The truth is we are really talking about cattle-pen style shootings. A monster with a firearm going into what is most likely a gun free zone, that is crowded and where escape is limited. The Virginia Tech shooter used a Glock 9mm handgun and 10 round magazines. The Columbine shooter used an assault weapons ban compliant Highpoint 995...wood stock rifle with 10 round magazines. Magazine swaps take 2-3 seconds. None of this limits the carnage.

If anyone truly believes that banning semi-automatic rifles based on how they look or that limiting magazine capacities will somehow stop cattle-pen shootings, or miraculously reduce casualities, you are kidding yourself.

If you told me you wanted to ban all semi-automatics, that would be a little more logical, though there is little chance it would happen. Not without a fight in the SCOTUS, and given precident set in both Miller and McDonald.

As one person commented, we had an AWB before. That is true. It ran from 1994-2004. The result? No measurable affect on gun violence. In fact, after the AWB lapsed in 2004, gun violence continued to decline. Why would we reimplement a failed policy?

It's pretty basic. The people who hate guns are insisting that others shouldn't have them either. It's ironically similar to the abortion debate. There are those who hate abortions and want to dictate that others can't have them. And those who want abortion to remain legal say that no one has the right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do to her body.

Gun owners do not need to justify ownership. The SCOTUS has decided that firearm ownership is protected for those guns that are common and not usually dangerous. The AR-15 is very common and no more dangerous than any other semi-automatic.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@BizSuitStacy Boy are you gonna catch hell for injecting logic into the conversation
@sunsporter1649 I'm used to it. I've been fighting for gun rights for over 20 years.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@BizSuitStacy Excellent. I've been an NRA member for decades myself
GerOttman · 61-69, M
I believe you are referring to the semi automatic sporting rifle. "Assault rifle is a made up term intended to sound scary. No I do not think a ban of any sort is needed or desirable. What should be done? Stop letting people who are trying to sell potato chips tell you what to think!
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@GerOttman That's not a good enough solution sir. I was hoping you would give us a more logical answer. 🙂
GerOttman · 61-69, M
@Zonuss Oh I wasn't offering a comprehensive solution. Only a logical first step.
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GerOttman · 61-69, M
@nonny Mass shootings have happened in many developed countries, your statement on that point is demonstrably false. Like many so called "facts" touted by the >other< pathological ideologues... it's just something that sounds so good, it must be true without bothering to verify. And just to kind of 'help' you out. When you (or for that matter when the other side) spew transparent nonsense you undermine your own credibility. Your not helping your case by not understanding the issue or using easily disputed cherry picked data. What happened in that night club in France, what about the camp in Norway? Was somebody throwing oranges?? By the way, banning oranges would be just as effective in preventing mass casualty incidents...
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Zonuss · 46-50, M
@nonny I do not know if banning guns in the US will solve the problem. Because here we have a culture of violence unlike any of those indigenous countries you just named which in reality are different from ours.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
They’re already more or less banned. Getting a hold of a legal assault rifle will cost you massive amount of money, they’re rare as hens teeth.

Coincidentally, they’re virtually absent from crime.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Zonuss Yes, semi-auto is just as dangerous. But by definition, assault rifles are not semi-auto.

@nonny Not one of those shooters had an assault rifle.

Really, the only people who have legal assault rifles in the US are high-end collectors.
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@QuixoticSoul So what do you think should be done.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Zonuss I like the Czech model myself. It’s fairly permissive, with gun ownership being protected in the constitution - but avoids the more retarded aspects of the free for all way we do things in the US. Licensing, tracking private sales, “good character” provisions, etc.

But you can still get a semi-auto rifle in the Czech Republic, and I think that’s ok.

The occasional determined psycho is very difficult to stop. But some basic measures do wonders for keeping guns out of hands of typical criminals.

Problem is - it’s not just a cosmetic fix, and would require changes to the 2nd amendment.
Budwick · 70-79, M
Do you know what an assault rifle is?
Cuz the media and left don't.
Chances are you've been misled.

Automatic machine guns have been outlawed since the 1930's.

Scary looking guns shouldn't be banned because of their appearance.

So, in answer to your question - no - because they're not what you think they are.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Budwick pmsnbc, where else....
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@Budwick Im sure you assumed it because to you all Liberals are the same. Wow, how logical you are. 🤭
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Zonuss
Im sure you assumed it because to you all Liberals are the same.

No Zone - you prove daily that you are ,....
special!
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@RippinKlouds And of course being an NRA member you are fully aware of the agenda
sunrisehawk · 61-69, M
The question is how you define them. Military weapons are already under severe restrictions and highly regulated. The proposals that I've seen range from banning scary looking guns to semi-automatics which are a high percentage of rifles and handguns made.

Assuming you mean AR-15's, AK 47 style, and the other similar models, heck no. They may in appearance look like military weapons, but the features are civilian in nature.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunrisehawk They only lack full auto, something that is barely even useful on the battlefield - even there aimed semi-auto fire is the real killer.

Ironically, if your typical school shooter had a full-auto version of their rifle, we’d likely see less casualties.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
You mean assault weapons like these?
Montanaman · M
@sunsporter1649 👍👍😎🤗🇺🇸
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Graylight · 51-55, F
@sunsporter1649 You can argue about the make and model of guns all you like. Doesn't change the debate. Maybe we should be looking at bullets more closely.
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@IstillmissEP I guess the only sane thing to do is decriminalize child sex trafficking 🤷‍♂️
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@IstillmissEP Eh, not really. Remember why NFA got passed to begin with, murder rate hit 10 during the prohibition.
Montanaman · M
Ah, the question...
Okay, I agree, something has to be done. But banning weapons will never work...
Just the idea, being discussed by the left, has made more law abiding Americans, go out and buy as many, as much as they can
It's been a boom in gun stores, gun shows and even online.

And how would our government, our ststes, enforce the ban? Go door to door, like the Gestopo?
Not happening in my lifetime.

So what to do?
I haven't the slightest clue. 🤔😔
Montanaman · M
@windinhishair maybe. I just know someone has got to do something.😔
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@Montanaman We should have more Public Service Announcements.
Montanaman · M
@Zonuss they did in the early 60's 😁😎👍
JT123 · M
They already are banned and have been for many years. The AR-15 is not an assault rifle and never was!
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@JT123 Then the legislation should specifically list AR-15s as banned weapons. Doesn't matter what you call it.
FloridaGuy · 46-50, M
Your question is empty unless you fill it out with some kind of “in order to” statement. Start with a desired outcome, then ask if a particular initiative might get you there.
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@FloridaGuy No thanks. I think the responders get my point. 🙂
FloridaGuy · 46-50, M
I’m sure they do. This is definitely the crowd for I’ll-conceived mumblings. @Zonuss
Zonuss · 46-50, M
For gun owners there is a war.
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
Semi auto isn't anymore dangerous then any other rifle
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@smileylovesgaming So what do you think should be done.
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
@Zonuss I just think the public can buy one. Just not the full auto kind. Also a better back ground search. Maybe a longer wait. So u can't just take it home
windinhishair · 61-69, M
Yes, they were banned once and they will be again.
Zonuss · 46-50, M
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Zonuss As soon as the Democrats have control of Congress.
JP1119 · 36-40, M
@windinhishair Don’t be So sure, we have moderates like Joe Manchin who could defect. Then Republicans will get a majority in the Senate back, and they’ll taunt us, “You had a majority and you didn’t pass any gun control legislation!”
Foxyfoxfox · 51-55, F
For the gun connoisseur and collector, it's cool to own one. I'm not a fan of guns but it's a family tradition to many people I know. It's like any interest or collection in anything. They own them NOT for shooting people.
Foxyfoxfox · 51-55, F
@Graylight yes I know. I was talking about my family friends specifically...who represent a group of people who are against a ban
Graylight · 51-55, F
JP1119 · 36-40, M
I think there are certain conditions under which it is legal to own a sword, provided it’s just for display, you can’t really use it to hurt anyone very badly. Maybe we could do something similar for assault weapons. @Foxyfoxfox
SW-User
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@SW-User Because ?
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Zonuss · 46-50, M
@SW-User 🙂
Graylight · 51-55, F
Okay by me.
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@Graylight Thank you.
BlueRain · 51-55, F
No they shouldn’t.
Justenjoyit · 61-69, M
I think all guns should be banned.
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@Justenjoyit For what. Its in the Constitution. 🙂

 
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